Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce
The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct, when using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW). While the default Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and navigating short text such as prior or next line, sentence, or paragraph, it may not be the preferred voice for longer passages of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct voice chosen remains active during the Say All even as you fast forward, rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the Say All, the Eloquence voice returns. Use the following controls in the Say All group to set preferences for how the Say All command works. Speech Synthesizer Use this combo box to select the synthesizer used for Say All. Select either Default, SAPI 5, or RealSpeak Solo Direct. When using Default, all other controls in the Say All group are unavailable. Also, note that RealSpeak Solo Direct is only available if you have downloaded and installed a RealSpeak Solo Direct voice. If the Say All synthesizer is Default, then either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct will be used for an Alternate Say All (ALT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW). If either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct is selected, the Default synthesizer is used for Alternate Say All. Rate Use this slider to select a comfortable speech rate for the Say All voice. PAGE DOWN and PAGE UP change the rate of speech by larger increments, while the UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW keys make more gradual changes. Punctuation Use this list to set the punctuation level used by JAWS when the Say All voice speaks. Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to select a punctuation level. The options available are None, Some, Most, which is the default, and All. Person The Person combo box lets you to select which SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizer voice to use for Say All. Pitch The Pitch slider allows you to adjust the pitch for the currently selected voice. Note that some SAPI5 and RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizers do not support pitch change like Eloquence and some other hardware and software synthesizers. Volume Use the slider to increase or decrease the Say All speech volume. The DOWN ARROW , LEFT ARROW, and PAGE DOWN keys decrease volume, and the UP ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, and PAGE UP keys increase volume. OK This button saves any changes made and then closes the Voice Adjustment dialog box. This button is not available when changes are made to any factory default voice profile template. You must use the Save As button to save any changes made to a factory template. Save As Choose this button to save your current voice settings as part of a voice profile. Type a name for your voice profile or select an existing profile from the list. If you select an existing profile, that profile's individual voice settings will be overwritten by the new settings when you choose OK. Apply Use this button to apply and save any changes made to the voice profile settings without exiting the Voice Adjustment dialog box. Cancel When you select this button, any changes you have made are discarded, and the Voice Adjustment dialog box closes. Negoslav - Original Message - From: Brad Dunse' li...@braddunsemusic.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce There use to be an option to press Alt Insert Down Arrow to read with an alternate voice such as SAPI instead of your default Elequence, or vice versa. Did they change the hot key or eliminate the option all together? I'd not seen any reference to it in the settings unless I've missed it. It was nice to just quickly read using an alternate voice on some things without changing the reading profile. I'd not seen this option since V11 I think. Brad Brad Brad Dunse If you repeat yourself Repeat yourself Repeat yourself You might be a songwriter. --Capt'n Frank http://www.braddunsemusic.com http://www.facebook.com/braddunse http://www.twitter.com/braddunse For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce
OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter. But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. . Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't. Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said... The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct, when using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW). While the default Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and navigating short text such as prior or next line, sentence, or paragraph, it may not be the preferred voice for longer passages of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct voice chosen remains active during the Say All even as you fast forward, rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the Say All, the Eloquence voice returns. Use the following controls in the Say All group to set preferences for how the Say All command works. Speech Synthesizer Use this combo box to select the synthesizer used for Say All. Select either Default, SAPI 5, or RealSpeak Solo Direct. When using Default, all other controls in the Say All group are unavailable. Also, note that RealSpeak Solo Direct is only available if you have downloaded and installed a RealSpeak Solo Direct voice. If the Say All synthesizer is Default, then either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct will be used for an Alternate Say All (ALT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW). If either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct is selected, the Default synthesizer is used for Alternate Say All. Rate Use this slider to select a comfortable speech rate for the Say All voice. PAGE DOWN and PAGE UP change the rate of speech by larger increments, while the UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW keys make more gradual changes. Punctuation Use this list to set the punctuation level used by JAWS when the Say All voice speaks. Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to select a punctuation level. The options available are None, Some, Most, which is the default, and All. Person The Person combo box lets you to select which SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizer voice to use for Say All. Pitch The Pitch slider allows you to adjust the pitch for the currently selected voice. Note that some SAPI5 and RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizers do not support pitch change like Eloquence and some other hardware and software synthesizers. Volume Use the slider to increase or decrease the Say All speech volume. The DOWN ARROW , LEFT ARROW, and PAGE DOWN keys decrease volume, and the UP ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, and PAGE UP keys increase volume. OK This button saves any changes made and then closes the Voice Adjustment dialog box. This button is not available when changes are made to any factory default voice profile template. You must use the Save As button to save any changes made to a factory template. Save As Choose this button to save your current voice settings as part of a voice profile. Type a name for your voice profile or select an existing profile from the list. If you select an existing profile, that profile's individual voice settings will be overwritten by the new settings when you choose OK. Apply Use this button to apply and save any changes made to the voice profile settings without exiting the Voice Adjustment dialog box. Cancel When you select this button, any changes you have made are discarded, and the Voice Adjustment dialog box closes. Negoslav - Original Message - From: Brad Dunse' li...@braddunsemusic.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce There use to be an option to press Alt Insert Down Arrow to read with an alternate voice such as SAPI instead of your default Elequence, or vice versa. Did they change the hot key or eliminate the option all together? I'd not seen any reference to it in the settings unless I've missed it. It was nice to just quickly read using an alternate voice on some things without changing the reading profile. I'd not seen this option since V11 I think. Brad Brad Brad Dunse If you repeat yourself Repeat yourself Repeat yourself You might
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce
On second thought perhaps this is it? I don't have a Real Speak Solo voice installed but rather the SAPI 5 from Win7 OS. Do you think Jaws is not recognizing it as a full option for toggling a say all? If I set it in the Voice Profile I can use it as a default, it just does not change on the fly. Also I've got Real Speak Sapi voices from earlier Jaws which came on a CD, that ought install fine I'd thinnk. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said... The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct, when using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW). While the default Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and navigating short text such as prior or next line, sentence, or paragraph, it may not be the preferred voice for longer passages of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct voice chosen remains active during the Say All even as you fast forward, rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the Say All, the Eloquence voice returns. Use the following controls in the Say All group to set preferences for how the Say All command works. Speech Synthesizer Use this combo box to select the synthesizer used for Say All. Select either Default, SAPI 5, or RealSpeak Solo Direct. When using Default, all other controls in the Say All group are unavailable. Also, note that RealSpeak Solo Direct is only available if you have downloaded and installed a RealSpeak Solo Direct voice. If the Say All synthesizer is Default, then either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct will be used for an Alternate Say All (ALT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW). If either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct is selected, the Default synthesizer is used for Alternate Say All. Rate Use this slider to select a comfortable speech rate for the Say All voice. PAGE DOWN and PAGE UP change the rate of speech by larger increments, while the UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW keys make more gradual changes. Punctuation Use this list to set the punctuation level used by JAWS when the Say All voice speaks. Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to select a punctuation level. The options available are None, Some, Most, which is the default, and All. Person The Person combo box lets you to select which SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizer voice to use for Say All. Pitch The Pitch slider allows you to adjust the pitch for the currently selected voice. Note that some SAPI5 and RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizers do not support pitch change like Eloquence and some other hardware and software synthesizers. Volume Use the slider to increase or decrease the Say All speech volume. The DOWN ARROW , LEFT ARROW, and PAGE DOWN keys decrease volume, and the UP ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, and PAGE UP keys increase volume. OK This button saves any changes made and then closes the Voice Adjustment dialog box. This button is not available when changes are made to any factory default voice profile template. You must use the Save As button to save any changes made to a factory template. Save As Choose this button to save your current voice settings as part of a voice profile. Type a name for your voice profile or select an existing profile from the list. If you select an existing profile, that profile's individual voice settings will be overwritten by the new settings when you choose OK. Apply Use this button to apply and save any changes made to the voice profile settings without exiting the Voice Adjustment dialog box. Cancel When you select this button, any changes you have made are discarded, and the Voice Adjustment dialog box closes. Negoslav - Original Message - From: Brad Dunse' li...@braddunsemusic.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce There use to be an option to press Alt Insert Down Arrow to read with an alternate voice such as SAPI instead of your default Elequence, or vice versa. Did they change the hot key or eliminate the option all together? I'd not seen any reference to it in the settings unless I've missed it. It was nice to just quickly read using an alternate voice on some things without changing the reading profile. I'd not seen this option since V11 I think. Brad Brad Brad Dunse If you repeat yourself Repeat yourself Repeat yourself You might be a songwriter. --Capt'n Frank http://www.braddunsemusic.com http://www.facebook.com/braddunse http://www.twitter.com/braddunse For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Brad Dunse Tell me, and I'll forget. Show me, and I'll remember. Involve me, and I'll learn. --Unknown http://www.braddunsemusic.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce
First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment. Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose sapi5, it will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set it to default it works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow. I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I use sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press alt+down arrow with your settings. Negoslav - Original Message - From: Brad Dunse' li...@braddunsemusic.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter. But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. . Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't. Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said... The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct, when using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW). While the default Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and navigating short text such as prior or next line, sentence, or paragraph, it may not be the preferred voice for longer passages of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct voice chosen remains active during the Say All even as you fast forward, rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the Say All, the Eloquence voice returns. Use the following controls in the Say All group to set preferences for how the Say All command works. Speech Synthesizer Use this combo box to select the synthesizer used for Say All. Select either Default, SAPI 5, or RealSpeak Solo Direct. When using Default, all other controls in the Say All group are unavailable. Also, note that RealSpeak Solo Direct is only available if you have downloaded and installed a RealSpeak Solo Direct voice. If the Say All synthesizer is Default, then either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct will be used for an Alternate Say All (ALT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW). If either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct is selected, the Default synthesizer is used for Alternate Say All. Rate Use this slider to select a comfortable speech rate for the Say All voice. PAGE DOWN and PAGE UP change the rate of speech by larger increments, while the UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW keys make more gradual changes. Punctuation Use this list to set the punctuation level used by JAWS when the Say All voice speaks. Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to select a punctuation level. The options available are None, Some, Most, which is the default, and All. Person The Person combo box lets you to select which SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizer voice to use for Say All. Pitch The Pitch slider allows you to adjust the pitch for the currently selected voice. Note that some SAPI5 and RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizers do not support pitch change like Eloquence and some other hardware and software synthesizers. Volume Use the slider to increase or decrease the Say All speech volume. The DOWN ARROW , LEFT ARROW, and PAGE DOWN keys decrease volume, and the UP ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, and PAGE UP keys increase volume. OK This button saves any changes made and then closes the Voice Adjustment dialog box. This button is not available when changes are made to any factory default voice profile template. You must use the Save As button to save any changes made to a factory template. Save As Choose this button to save your current voice settings as part of a voice profile. Type a name for your voice profile or select an existing profile from the list. If you select an existing profile, that profile's individual voice settings will be overwritten by the new settings when you choose OK. Apply Use this button to apply and save any changes made to the voice profile settings without exiting the Voice Adjustment dialog box. Cancel When you select this button, any changes you have made are discarded, and the Voice Adjustment dialog box closes. Negoslav - Original Message - From: Brad Dunse' li...@braddunsemusic.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce
Strange. I've done/had all that but Alt Insert Down arrow still produces nothing. I'm downloading some Real Speak voices to see if that will make a difference,Probably not. If not I'll live without it, it's not worth un-reinstaling Jaws and redoing all the settings. Part of this issue's origin is non-transferrable settings from earlyer Jaws versions. Thanks. Brad On 11/19/2011 01:26 PM Negoslav Sabev said... First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment. Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose sapi5, it will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set it to default it works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow. I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I use sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press alt+down arrow with your settings. Negoslav - Original Message - From: Brad Dunse' li...@braddunsemusic.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter. But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. . Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't. Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said... The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct, when using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW). While the default Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and navigating short text such as prior or next line, sentence, or paragraph, it may not be the preferred voice for longer passages of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct voice chosen remains active during the Say All even as you fast forward, rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the Say All, the Eloquence voice returns. Use the following controls in the Say All group to set preferences for how the Say All command works. Speech Synthesizer Use this combo box to select the synthesizer used for Say All. Select either Default, SAPI 5, or RealSpeak Solo Direct. When using Default, all other controls in the Say All group are unavailable. Also, note that RealSpeak Solo Direct is only available if you have downloaded and installed a RealSpeak Solo Direct voice. If the Say All synthesizer is Default, then either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct will be used for an Alternate Say All (ALT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW). If either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct is selected, the Default synthesizer is used for Alternate Say All. Rate Use this slider to select a comfortable speech rate for the Say All voice. PAGE DOWN and PAGE UP change the rate of speech by larger increments, while the UP ARROW and DOWN ARROW keys make more gradual changes. Punctuation Use this list to set the punctuation level used by JAWS when the Say All voice speaks. Use the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to select a punctuation level. The options available are None, Some, Most, which is the default, and All. Person The Person combo box lets you to select which SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizer voice to use for Say All. Pitch The Pitch slider allows you to adjust the pitch for the currently selected voice. Note that some SAPI5 and RealSpeak Solo Direct synthesizers do not support pitch change like Eloquence and some other hardware and software synthesizers. Volume Use the slider to increase or decrease the Say All speech volume. The DOWN ARROW , LEFT ARROW, and PAGE DOWN keys decrease volume, and the UP ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, and PAGE UP keys increase volume. OK This button saves any changes made and then closes the Voice Adjustment dialog box. This button is not available when changes are made to any factory default voice profile template. You must use the Save As button to save any changes made to a factory template. Save As Choose this button to save your current voice settings as part of a voice profile. Type a name for your voice profile or select an existing profile from the list. If you select an existing profile, that profile's individual voice settings will be overwritten
