Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Mine boots with the beta. You can always shut it off and go back to the old version, the shortcut is still on your desktop. I have yet to need to do so, myself. On 9/11/2013 10:53, Vicky Vaughan wrote: To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
I couldn't switch to the previous version. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Mine boots with the beta. You can always shut it off and go back to the old version, the shortcut is still on your desktop. I have yet to need to do so, myself. On 9/11/2013 10:53, Vicky Vaughan wrote: To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Check more carefully. I expect you can, either with the second jaws shortcut on your desktop, or by running it directly if need be. On 9/11/2013 11:54, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews wrote: I couldn't switch to the previous version. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Mine boots with the beta. You can always shut it off and go back to the old version, the shortcut is still on your desktop. I have yet to need to do so, myself. On 9/11/2013 10:53, Vicky Vaughan wrote: To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Yes, I have jaws 15 come on at start up. No problems so far... -Original Message- From: Vicky Vaughan Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
I'll try running it. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Check more carefully. I expect you can, either with the second jaws shortcut on your desktop, or by running it directly if need be. On 9/11/2013 11:54, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews wrote: I couldn't switch to the previous version. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Mine boots with the beta. You can always shut it off and go back to the old version, the shortcut is still on your desktop. I have yet to need to do so, myself. On 9/11/2013 10:53, Vicky Vaughan wrote: To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
The jaws beta. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
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Mine now uses 15 as the defalt. Which is cool to me. I love it so far. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
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I can't switch back. I take it the new version won't work with the vocalize direct, so I should go ahead and uninstall them or wait until the next beta update? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 6:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Mine now uses 15 as the defalt. Which is cool to me. I love it so far. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws
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Hi, I am having turned on JF15 Beta. Onetime it happened, that JF stopped speaking in log-on screen, when I locked my computer. Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S pozdravem: Marek DURILA (Embedded Nordic HC coordinator image moved to file: pic23376.gif) Delivery Center 616 00, Brno Central Europe Technicka 21 Brno SITE Czech Republic (Embedded image moved to file: pic26868.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 Mobile: E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Registered address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600, Company ID: 26244535 Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Sídlo: Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 26244535 Zapsaná v obchodním rejstříku, vedeném Krajským soudem v Brně oddíl C, vlozka 39922 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com, Date: 09/11/2013 05:48 PM Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com To those of you who have already put JAWS Beta 15 on your computer, when you boot up, do you boot up with it or with your oficial Jaws? I'm drawing a blank as to what happened in the past. Thank you to all! I just want to know what to expect. Vicky -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message
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No, you will have to download 15, it loads in a separate folder and then it will have its own auto update. Always been that way. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Sorry, I can't keep up with all the e-mail. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release No, you will have to download 15, it loads in a separate folder and then it will have its own auto update. Always been that way. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Hi, I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which can use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15. this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced. Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S pozdravem: Marek DURILA (Embedded Nordic HC coordinator image moved to file: pic20207.gif) Delivery Center 616 00, Brno Central Europe Technicka 21 Brno SITE Czech Republic (Embedded image moved to file: pic06702.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 Mobile: E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Registered address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600, Company ID: 26244535 Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Sídlo: Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 26244535 Zapsaná v obchodním rejstříku, vedeném Krajským soudem v Brně oddíl C, vlozka 39922 From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com, Date: 09/09/2013 09:50 AM Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Beta releases to all and sundry? IMO, this isn't a good idea. In the wider community, beta testers are selected because of previous experience in such matters. A simple vested interest isn't usually enough for one to qualify for such testing. Maybe it's different with FS? Glen *** On 09-Sep-2013 5:50 PM, David Ferrin wrote: So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
I updated my authorization as recommended by the Freedom Scientific Fscast. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marek Durila Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi, I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which can use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15. this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced. Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S pozdravem: Marek DURILA (Embedded Nordic HC coordinator image moved to file: pic20207.gif) Delivery Center 616 00, Brno Central Europe Technicka 21 Brno SITE Czech Republic (Embedded image moved to file: pic06702.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 Mobile: E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Registered address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600, Company ID: 26244535 Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Sídlo: Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 26244535 Zapsaná v obchodním rejstříku, vedeném Krajským soudem v Brně oddíl C, vlozka 39922 From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com, Date: 09/09/2013 09:50 AM Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
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Interesting. I guess we'll all find out. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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that's right, lets not speculate here. -Original Message- From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:22 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Interesting. I guess we'll all find out. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Hi, Where is the FS cast? I missed probably something :-( Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S pozdravem: Marek DURILA (Embedded Nordic HC coordinator image moved to file: pic13614.gif) Delivery Center 616 00, Brno Central Europe Technicka 21 Brno SITE Czech Republic (Embedded image moved to file: pic19501.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 Mobile: E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Registered address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600, Company ID: 26244535 Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Sídlo: Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 26244535 Zapsaná v obchodním rejstříku, vedeném Krajským soudem v Brně oddíl C, vlozka 39922 From: Michael Capelle michael.cape...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com, Date: 09/09/2013 01:33 PM Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com that's right, lets not speculate here. -Original Message- From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:22 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Interesting. I guess we'll all find out. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have
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Honestly I agree with you but I figure since the answer will be forthcoming tomorrow at the earliest why dispute it when we'll all find out so soon. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marek Durila Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi, I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which can use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15. this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced. Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S pozdravem: Marek DURILA (Embedded Nordic HC coordinator image moved to file: pic20207.gif) Delivery Center 616 00, Brno Central Europe Technicka 21 Brno SITE Czech Republic (Embedded image moved to file: pic06702.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 Mobile: E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Registered address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600, Company ID: 26244535 Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Sídlo: Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 26244535 Zapsaná v obchodním rejstříku, vedeném Krajským soudem v Brně oddíl C, vlozka 39922 From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com, Date: 09/09/2013 09:50 AM Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David
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Like I said in an earlier post, I figured no point in disagreeing with anybody especially at 3:30 in the morning when the answer is coming out in a couple of days. I am quite aware the practice has always been that you can only update your current version with the check for updates feature in the help menu. Sometimes it's just easier to let folks have it their way and it will all come out in the wash. We have always had to install a new major version ourselves before ever being able to update it. This in my opinion is a good practice to follow, especially when it comes to beta software. Thanks and now that the fog has cleared somewhat it's time for huge amounts of coffee. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers
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I think we're just all excited about the beta and new Fs reader. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Honestly I agree with you but I figure since the answer will be forthcoming tomorrow at the earliest why dispute it when we'll all find out so soon. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marek Durila Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi, I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which can use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15. this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced. Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S pozdravem: Marek DURILA (Embedded Nordic HC coordinator image moved to file: pic20207.gif) Delivery Center 616 00, Brno Central Europe Technicka 21 Brno SITE Czech Republic (Embedded image moved to file: pic06702.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 Mobile: E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Registered address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600, Company ID: 26244535 Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Sídlo: Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 26244535 Zapsaná v obchodním rejstříku, vedeném Krajským soudem v Brně oddíl C, vlozka 39922 From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com, Date: 09/09/2013 09:50 AM Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system
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Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked
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Coffee. Sounds good, I think I'll join you. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:59 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Like I said in an earlier post, I figured no point in disagreeing with anybody especially at 3:30 in the morning when the answer is coming out in a couple of days. I am quite aware the practice has always been that you can only update your current version with the check for updates feature in the help menu. Sometimes it's just easier to let folks have it their way and it will all come out in the wash. We have always had to install a new major version ourselves before ever being able to update it. This in my opinion is a good practice to follow, especially when it comes to beta software. Thanks and now that the fog has cleared somewhat it's time for huge amounts of coffee. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Like my partner has already said, enough already. Give it a rest until there is actually something further to discuss like what it does or does not do well. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of tim Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Not for a beta release only the actual product release will be on cd. Only fools put beta releases on cd. At 10:03 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote: eric, i just tuned in to this thread. so what you're saying is that I have to wait for my dvd or cd to reach me, right? am i understanding you correct? At 05:50 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote: Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help
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eric, i just tuned in to this thread. so what you're saying is that I have to wait for my dvd or cd to reach me, right? am i understanding you correct? At 05:50 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote: Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Not for a beta release only the actual product release will be on cd. Only fools put beta releases on cd. At 10:03 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote: eric, i just tuned in to this thread. so what you're saying is that I have to wait for my dvd or cd to reach me, right? am i understanding you correct? At 05:50 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote: Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15... You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only. Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward. Regards, Eric Damery -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers
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A few years ago, a friend of mine who was using JAWS10 or 11 was able to update/upgrade to the first or the subsequent public beta release of JAWS12, although he didn't have a SMA. If this has been changed, I welcome it, because I don't think people should be auto-updating to a beta release of the new version unless they've bought (or are intent to purchase) the new version. It was a mite con fusing to him, when i told him he or his worke would have to purchase the full version of the new version, and that the betas would expire pretty soon. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Honestly I agree with you but I figure since the answer will be forthcoming tomorrow at the earliest why dispute it when we'll all find out so soon. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marek Durila Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi, I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which can use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15. this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced. Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S pozdravem: Marek DURILA (Embedded Nordic HC coordinator image moved to file: pic20207.gif) Delivery Center 616 00, Brno Central Europe Technicka 21 Brno SITE Czech Republic (Embedded image moved to file: pic06702.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 Mobile: E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Registered address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600, Company ID: 26244535 Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Sídlo: Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 26244535 Zapsaná v obchodním rejstříku, vedeném Krajským soudem v Brně oddíl C, vlozka 39922 From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com, Date: 09/09/2013 09:50 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Sent by: JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, interesting. I stand corrected. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Hi, Wrong link: http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-public-beta.asp Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Üdvözlettel / S pozdravem: Marek DURILA (Embedded Nordic HC coordinator image moved to file: pic34237.gif) Delivery Center 616 00, Brno Central Europe Technicka 21 Brno SITE Czech Republic (Embedded image moved to file: pic58545.gif)Phone: 420-53341-7092 Mobile: E-mail: marek_dur...@cz.ibm.com IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Registered address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600, Company ID: 26244535 Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o. Sídlo: Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSČ 61600 IČ: 26244535 Zapsaná v obchodním rejstříku, vedeném Krajským soudem v Brně oddíl C, vlozka 39922 From: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com, Date: 09/09/2013 06:26 PM Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Sent by:JAWS-Users-List jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15. http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade It's also available on FS's front page. While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, September 9
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Hi Clifton, Have you shared these concerns with FS? I would think that they would hear them quicker that way, as opposed to a mention on a mailing list. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: kliphton kliph...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I just hope they fix the outlook issues. Not being able to edit signatures with jaws, not telling how many unread messages there are in each folder when cybling through them, the auto fill not reading when your typing the first few letters of a frequently emailed address, and not to mention in word,and excel, when changing options, you have to read current line when tabbing through in order to know what the option is. These are big deals to me. I paid to much for this license, for these things not to work. JMO Kliphton Senior (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,instagram,foursquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews goldyemo...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Yes I hav, even sent a copy of this email to them. So hopefully it gets heard. Kliphton iMessage kliph...@icloud.com - E-Mail kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquareSkype) kliphton72 (Personal blob-Read at your own risk) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com ~text only~ 914-820-2298 On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com wrote: Hi Clifton, Have you shared these concerns with FS? I would think that they would hear them quicker that way, as opposed to a mention on a mailing list. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: kliphton kliph...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I just hope they fix the outlook issues. Not being able to edit signatures with jaws, not telling how many unread messages there are in each folder when cybling through them, the auto fill not reading when your typing the first few letters of a frequently emailed address, and not to mention in word,and excel, when changing options, you have to read current line when tabbing through in order to know what the option is. These are big deals to me. I paid to much for this license, for these things not to work. JMO Kliphton Senior (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,instagram,foursquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews goldyemo...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Hi, is beta mean it is in the testing faze? Susie -Original Message- From: Rick Justice Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:43 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi Clifton, Have you shared these concerns with FS? I would think that they would hear them quicker that way, as opposed to a mention on a mailing list. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: kliphton kliph...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I just hope they fix the outlook issues. Not being able to edit signatures with jaws, not telling how many unread messages there are in each folder when cybling through them, the auto fill not reading when your typing the first few letters of a frequently emailed address, and not to mention in word,and excel, when changing options, you have to read current line when tabbing through in order to know what the option is. These are big deals to me. I paid to much for this license, for these things not to work. JMO Kliphton Senior (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,instagram,foursquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews goldyemo...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
That is correct, it is in a testing phase. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of susie q Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 12:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi, is beta mean it is in the testing faze? Susie -Original Message- From: Rick Justice Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:43 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi Clifton, Have you shared these concerns with FS? I would think that they would hear them quicker that way, as opposed to a mention on a mailing list. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: kliphton kliph...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I just hope they fix the outlook issues. Not being able to edit signatures with jaws, not telling how many unread messages there are in each folder when cybling through them, the auto fill not reading when your typing the first few letters of a frequently emailed address, and not to mention in word,and excel, when changing options, you have to read current line when tabbing through in order to know what the option is. These are big deals to me. I paid to much for this license, for these things not to work. JMO Kliphton Senior (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,instagram,foursquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews goldyemo...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
yes it does. -Original Message- From: susie q Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 11:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi, is beta mean it is in the testing faze? Susie -Original Message- From: Rick Justice Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:43 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi Clifton, Have you shared these concerns with FS? I would think that they would hear them quicker that way, as opposed to a mention on a mailing list. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: kliphton kliph...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I just hope they fix the outlook issues. Not being able to edit signatures with jaws, not telling how many unread messages there are in each folder when cybling through them, the auto fill not reading when your typing the first few letters of a frequently emailed address, and not to mention in word,and excel, when changing options, you have to read current line when tabbing through in order to know what the option is. These are big deals to me. I paid to much for this license, for these things not to work. JMO Kliphton Senior (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,instagram,foursquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews goldyemo...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Yes. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of susie q Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 12:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi, is beta mean it is in the testing faze? Susie -Original Message- From: Rick Justice Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:43 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Hi Clifton, Have you shared these concerns with FS? I would think that they would hear them quicker that way, as opposed to a mention on a mailing list. HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: kliphton kliph...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I just hope they fix the outlook issues. Not being able to edit signatures with jaws, not telling how many unread messages there are in each folder when cybling through them, the auto fill not reading when your typing the first few letters of a frequently emailed address, and not to mention in word,and excel, when changing options, you have to read current line when tabbing through in order to know what the option is. These are big deals to me. I paid to much for this license, for these things not to work. JMO Kliphton Senior (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,instagram,foursquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews goldyemo...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Thanks for the clarification. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Ah. I do have the current version of Jaws 14. I don't remember that, that's how long it's been. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release David. Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version installed. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is installed then future updates along with the full version will come down using check for updates, but not before. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in short no. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates? Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes available. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release QWill there be a special link to download the beta? It's been a while. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Great! Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 3:12 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
I corrected it in my reply also. I updated my authorization as recommended by the fscast. Sounds exciting. So do the new voices. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Correction 3:00 in the morning, at that hour it is lucky I know which way to turn the keyboard. Honestly though thanks for catching it. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Lol. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
I just hope they fix the outlook issues. Not being able to edit signatures with jaws, not telling how many unread messages there are in each folder when cybling through them, the auto fill not reading when your typing the first few letters of a frequently emailed address, and not to mention in word,and excel, when changing options, you have to read current line when tabbing through in order to know what the option is. These are big deals to me. I paid to much for this license, for these things not to work. JMO Kliphton Senior (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliph...@gmail.com (Twitter,instagram,foursquareSkype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews goldyemo...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 11:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Well, I had more sleep. lol HTH, Rick Justice Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people have had a chance to learn! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release It was 5:00 in the morning, thanks for correcting the spelling in the subject line. David Ferrin Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind don't matter. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release Just correcting the spelling of Beta. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release If all goes according to plan the beta will post next Tuesday. That's the latest news crossing my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Neta Release Does anyone know when the beta release is due? I thought it was today. Is there a special link, I forgot. Mellissa Green @GreenNovelist For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
