Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[sandy]

thanks, I guess I'll just stay in the weeds like thousands of us jaws users

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

It's an important distinction for at least two reasons. A version, such as 
2018, is released annually and is intended to be a substantial advance on 
each previous version. Also, one version counts as one item on your SMA. 
Each SMA payment covers two years of service and two versions of JAWS.


JM Casey nicely explains why VFO uses the term "build" or "release."

I hope it's now clear why this isn't just semantics.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
sandy

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

what happened to calling it version?

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

The "build" is the latest release of the particular version. So, it's the 
march build of JAWS 2018. Windows 10 is at build 1803, which is the third 
month of the year 2018...etc.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of sandy

Sent: March 16, 2018 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

do you mean version when you say build, and if so, where did build come 
from?


-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

To add further to this issue. Forced reading commands seem to be fine like 
say line or top of file for a reason that escapes my understanding. It has 
been a long time since I said this, but I might have to revert my systems to 
the previous build until things get straightened out.


-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up, 
down or around for some strange reason.


I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[Adrian Spratt]

It's an important distinction for at least two reasons. A version, such as 
2018, is released annually and is intended to be a substantial advance on each 
previous version. Also, one version counts as one item on your SMA. Each SMA 
payment covers two years of service and two versions of JAWS.

JM Casey nicely explains why VFO uses the term "build" or "release."

I hope it's now clear why this isn't just semantics.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
sandy
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

what happened to calling it version?

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

The "build" is the latest release of the particular version. So, it's the march 
build of JAWS 2018. Windows 10 is at build 1803, which is the third month of 
the year 2018...etc.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of sandy
Sent: March 16, 2018 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

do you mean version when you say build, and if so, where did build come from?

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

To add further to this issue. Forced reading commands seem to be fine like say 
line or top of file for a reason that escapes my understanding. It has been a 
long time since I said this, but I might have to revert my systems to the 
previous build until things get straightened out.

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up, 
down or around for some strange reason.

I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[sandy]

what happened to calling it version?

-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

The "build" is the latest release of the particular version. So, it's the 
march build of JAWS 2018. Windows 10 is at build 1803, which is the third 
month of the year 2018...etc.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of sandy

Sent: March 16, 2018 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

do you mean version when you say build, and if so, where did build come 
from?


-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

To add further to this issue. Forced reading commands seem to be fine like 
say line or top of file for a reason that escapes my understanding. It has 
been a long time since I said this, but I might have to revert my systems to 
the previous build until things get straightened out.


-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up, 
down or around for some strange reason.


I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[JM Casey]

The "build" is the latest release of the particular version. So, it's the march 
build of JAWS 2018. Windows 10 is at build 1803, which is the third month of 
the year 2018...etc.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of sandy
Sent: March 16, 2018 8:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

do you mean version when you say build, and if so, where did build come from?

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

To add further to this issue. Forced reading commands seem to be fine like say 
line or top of file for a reason that escapes my understanding. It has been a 
long time since I said this, but I might have to revert my systems to the 
previous build until things get straightened out.

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up, 
down or around for some strange reason.

I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[sandy]

do you mean version when you say build, and if so, where did build come 
from?


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

To add further to this issue. Forced reading commands seem to be fine like
say line or top of file for a reason that escapes my understanding. It has
been a long time since I said this, but I might have to revert my systems to
the previous build until things get straightened out.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up,
down or around for some strange reason.

I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[Cristóbal]

I've had this problem in prior Jaws versions when working in a Word or Outlook 
email. Either replying or typing a new message. A simple Arrow down would do 
nothing, but a controlplus arrow down or the same laptop command worked. It 
used to be bad around a year or so ago. So far though, in the limited time I've 
had to work with today's update, I havent' encountered that problem. 
Currently on Microsoft Outlook Version 16.0.8431.2079 if that helps.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

To add further to this issue. Forced reading commands seem to be fine like say 
line or top of file for a reason that escapes my understanding. It has been a 
long time since I said this, but I might have to revert my systems to the 
previous build until things get straightened out.

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up, 
down or around for some strange reason.

I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[David Ferrin]

I restarted jaws without rebooting my system and it does seem to be fine 
now.


Had me worried for a minute or so there.

-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

I installed the new build today.  in the February build JAWS read all labels
and fields in OE. This new version does not read any labels, even field
names such as To, CC, BCC, Subject, etc. The fields are there, but JAWS
simply says "Edit".

What happened?  i hate when a new release breaks something that has been
working well.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:52 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug


Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow 
up, down or around for some strange reason.


I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[Andy Baracco]

I installed the new build today.  in the February build JAWS read all labels 
and fields in OE. This new version does not read any labels, even field 
names such as To, CC, BCC, Subject, etc. The fields are there, but JAWS 
simply says "Edit".


What happened?  i hate when a new release breaks something that has been 
working well.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:52 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug


Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow 
up, down or around for some strange reason.


I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[David Ferrin]

To add further to this issue. Forced reading commands seem to be fine like 
say line or top of file for a reason that escapes my understanding. It has 
been a long time since I said this, but I might have to revert my systems to 
the previous build until things get straightened out.


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up, 
down or around for some strange reason.


I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[Timothy Appleby]

No, not here David, running Windows 10 Home edition 64 bit Version 
10.0.16299.15 JAWS version 2018.1803.24. All things are reading properly here.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow up, 
down or around for some strange reason. 

I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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