RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process

2006-04-17 Thread Brian Stansberry
I don't know what Manik thinks about this, but since JBossCache is a
separate project, I'm inclined to have it removed it from the AS
component list. Discourage people reporting issues against the wrong
project.  If they have issues with JBC integration in the AS, the
Clustering component should suffice.

I realize this may not be doable given the history of JIRAs from when
JBC was an AS component.  If not doable, no big deal; I don't think many
issues get raised against the component.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Some possibilities also:
> 
> Could be changed:
> Build System == Ruel Loehr
> Clustering == Brian Stansberry
> JBossCache == Manik Surtani
> IIOP = Franscisco Reverbel
> 
> Could be added:
> ClassLoaders = Scott Stark
> EJB3 = Bill Burke
> EJB Timers == Dimitris Andreadis
> 
> Scott owns also the following components, one or more could be
> off-loaded, maybe? Installer == ?
> Test Suite == ?
> EJB == ?
> Naming == ?
> Logging = ?
> 
> Do we need also separate components for aop integration, the
> 2 consoles and stuff in common & varia (or use other?)
> 
> How we deal with "other" ?
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Adrian Brock
>> Sent: 17 April, 2006 17:58
>> To: Dimitris Andreadis
>> Cc: Andy Miller; Scott M Stark; Ivelin Ivanov; jboss-development
>> Subject: RE: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process
>> 
>> JCA == Weston Price
>> 
>> On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 09:55 -0500, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:
>>> This is the beginning of the discussion!
>>> 
>>> So if anyone wants to propose what component/leads need
>>> add/remove/change? 
>>> 
  I completely agree with all of those.  Have you started the
 discussion on the components leads yet?  If not, let's get that
 discussion started.  I think that is the first thing that needs to
 get straightened out.  After that, we can start to put some
 processes in place to make things smoother.  Some components are
 also in transistion, such as transactions and JMS.  So, we need to
 have an understanding that the components leads in JBoss AS 5 will
 be different then they are in JBoss AS 4.0.x or 3.2.x.
 
 Andy
>> --
>> 
>> Adrian Brock
>> Chief Scientist
>> JBoss Inc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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[JBoss-dev] RE: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process

2006-04-17 Thread Scott M Stark
The main issue for improving progress is a more uniform application of
resources. If every lead is responsible for getting 1-2 production
release issues resolved per week, we would have a better progression to
a release as well as better understanding of what issues should be
delayed due to needing to be broken up better, reduced in priority, etc.

> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Miller 
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:25 AM
> To: Dimitris Andreadis; Adrian Brock; Scott M Stark; Ivelin Ivanov
> Cc: jboss-development
> Subject: RE: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process
> 
> Dimitris,
> 
>  I completely agree with all of those.  Have you started 
> the discussion on the components leads yet?  If not, let's 
> get that discussion started.  I think that is the first thing 
> that needs to get straightened out.  After that, we can start 
> to put some processes in place to make things smoother.  Some 
> components are also in transistion, such as transactions and 
> JMS.  So, we need to have an understanding that the 
> components leads in JBoss AS 5 will be different then they 
> are in JBoss AS 4.0.x or 3.2.x.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dimitris Andreadis
> Sent: Mon 4/17/2006 4:41 AM
> To: Andy Miller; Adrian Brock; Scott M Stark; Ivelin Ivanov
> Cc: jboss-development
> Subject: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process
>  
> 
> Some of the problems we have now with our JIRA case handling are:
> 
> - entered cases often have no component assigned, thus nobody 
> looks at them
> - cases with a component are not qualified at all; we have 
> cases that date back to the sourceforge days
> - cases having more than one assigned components may cause 
> confusion as to who's handling them
> 
> In addition, the current break-out of the server subsystems 
> into component (shown in the bottom) maybe a bit outdated.
> 
> I believe we need to 
> 
> A) clarify/document the JIRA case handling process
> B) revise/validate/update the component list and the leads
> C) throw in ideas for improving our case handling to make it 
> more effective and timely.
> 
> Your input is welcome
> 
> Thanks
> /Dimitris
> 
> 
> Build System (Lead: Scott M Stark)
> Clustering (Lead: Scott M Stark)
> CMP service (Lead: Alexey Loubyansky)
> Deployment Service (Lead: Dimitris Andreadis) Documentation 
> (Lead: Norman Richards) EJBs (Lead: Scott M Stark) Hibernate 
> service (Lead: Steve Ebersole) IIOP service (Lead: Dimitris 
> Andreadis) Installer (Lead: Scott M Stark) JAXR service 
> (Lead: Anil Saldhana) JBoss Cache service (Lead: Bela Ban) 
> JCA service (Lead: Adrian Brock) JGroups service (Lead: Bela 
> Ban) JMS service (Lead: Adrian Brock) JMX (Lead: Scott M 
> Stark) Logging (Lead: Scott M Stark) Management Service 
> (Lead: Dimitris Andreadis) MicroContainer bus (Lead: Adrian 
> Brock) Naming (Lead: Scott M Stark) Other Remoting (Lead: Tom 
> Elrod) Security (Lead: Scott M Stark) System Service (Lead: 
> Dimitris Andreadis) Test Suite (Lead: Scott M Stark) 
> Transaction Manager service (Lead: Adrian Brock) Web (Tomcat) 
> service (Lead: Remy Maucherat) Web Services service (Lead: 
> Thomas Diesler) XML Service (Lead: Alexey Loubyansky) 
> 


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[JBoss-dev] RE: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process

2006-04-17 Thread Dimitris Andreadis

Some possibilities also:

Could be changed:
Build System == Ruel Loehr
Clustering == Brian Stansberry
JBossCache == Manik Surtani
IIOP = Franscisco Reverbel

Could be added:
ClassLoaders = Scott Stark
EJB3 = Bill Burke
EJB Timers == Dimitris Andreadis

Scott owns also the following components, one or more could be
off-loaded, maybe?
Installer == ?
Test Suite == ?
EJB == ?
Naming == ?
Logging = ?

Do we need also separate components for aop integration, the 2 consoles
and stuff in common & varia (or use other?)

How we deal with "other" ?

> -Original Message-
> From: Adrian Brock 
> Sent: 17 April, 2006 17:58
> To: Dimitris Andreadis
> Cc: Andy Miller; Scott M Stark; Ivelin Ivanov; jboss-development
> Subject: RE: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process
> 
> JCA == Weston Price
> 
> On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 09:55 -0500, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:
> > This is the beginning of the discussion!
> > 
> > So if anyone wants to propose what component/leads need 
> > add/remove/change?
> > 
> > >  I completely agree with all of those.  Have you started the 
> > > discussion on the components leads yet?  If not, let's get that 
> > > discussion started.  I think that is the first thing that 
> needs to 
> > > get straightened out.  After that, we can start to put some 
> > > processes in place to make things smoother.  Some components are 
> > > also in transistion, such as transactions and JMS.  So, 
> we need to 
> > > have an understanding that the components leads in JBoss 
> AS 5 will 
> > > be different then they are in JBoss AS 4.0.x or 3.2.x.
> > > 
> > > Andy
> --
> 
> Adrian Brock
> Chief Scientist
> JBoss Inc.
> 
> 
> 


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[JBoss-dev] RE: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process

2006-04-17 Thread Adrian Brock
JCA == Weston Price

On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 09:55 -0500, Dimitris Andreadis wrote:
> This is the beginning of the discussion!
> 
> So if anyone wants to propose what component/leads need
> add/remove/change?
> 
> >  I completely agree with all of those.  Have you started 
> > the discussion on the components leads yet?  If not, let's 
> > get that discussion started.  I think that is the first thing 
> > that needs to get straightened out.  After that, we can start 
> > to put some processes in place to make things smoother.  Some 
> > components are also in transistion, such as transactions and 
> > JMS.  So, we need to have an understanding that the 
> > components leads in JBoss AS 5 will be different then they 
> > are in JBoss AS 4.0.x or 3.2.x.
> > 
> > Andy
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Chief Scientist
JBoss Inc.




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[JBoss-dev] RE: Improving the JBAS JIRA handling process

2006-04-17 Thread Dimitris Andreadis

This is the beginning of the discussion!

So if anyone wants to propose what component/leads need
add/remove/change?

>  I completely agree with all of those.  Have you started 
> the discussion on the components leads yet?  If not, let's 
> get that discussion started.  I think that is the first thing 
> that needs to get straightened out.  After that, we can start 
> to put some processes in place to make things smoother.  Some 
> components are also in transistion, such as transactions and 
> JMS.  So, we need to have an understanding that the 
> components leads in JBoss AS 5 will be different then they 
> are in JBoss AS 4.0.x or 3.2.x.
> 
> Andy


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