Re: [jdev] Discovering the Federation.

2006-08-30 Thread Sander Devrieze
Op dinsdag 29 augustus 2006 22:59, schreef Cedric Hyppolite:
snip
 To solve the bootstrapping problem, the client would include an
 initial list of stable, well-connected xmpp server which would be
 used as a seed to discover the full network, then select which server
 to register to. The advantage of this is to have an xmpp solution to
 use on all the steps from 'I don't know jabber' to 'I have an account
 and I chat with my friends'. In the same way as user directories are
 handled by jabber instead of relying on web pages of user account
 info, server directory could be handled by jabber.

Try the account wizard of Coccinella ( http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/ ; it 
uses the XML file from jabber.org (though Peter should update that file).

 You can then imagine features in the client like selecting the server
 based on values from the 'server statistics' namespace including
 number of accounts, uptime, ping time, the availability of off-line
 messaging, secure login...

1) Just add some additional fields to the XML file (uptime, services, number 
of total/online users).
2) Automate the gathering of the information for this file with a bot (this is 
what you want in every client, which would be IMO duplicative work).
3) Distribute the XML file (and its updates) with SourceForge.net (or 
something similar) to make it distributed (SF.net has many download servers). 
Client projects can also opt to serve that file on their server(s) for their 
own client.

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Re: [jdev] Discovering the Federation.

2006-08-30 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Sander Devrieze wrote:
 Op dinsdag 29 augustus 2006 22:59, schreef Cedric Hyppolite:
 snip
 To solve the bootstrapping problem, the client would include an
 initial list of stable, well-connected xmpp server which would be
 used as a seed to discover the full network, then select which server
 to register to. The advantage of this is to have an xmpp solution to
 use on all the steps from 'I don't know jabber' to 'I have an account
 and I chat with my friends'. In the same way as user directories are
 handled by jabber instead of relying on web pages of user account
 info, server directory could be handled by jabber.
 
 Try the account wizard of Coccinella ( http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/ ; it 
 uses the XML file from jabber.org (though Peter should update that file).

Soon, very soon.

 You can then imagine features in the client like selecting the server
 based on values from the 'server statistics' namespace including
 number of accounts, uptime, ping time, the availability of off-line
 messaging, secure login...
 
 1) Just add some additional fields to the XML file (uptime, services, number 
 of total/online users).
 2) Automate the gathering of the information for this file with a bot (this 
 is 
 what you want in every client, which would be IMO duplicative work).
 3) Distribute the XML file (and its updates) with SourceForge.net (or 
 something similar) to make it distributed (SF.net has many download servers). 
 Client projects can also opt to serve that file on their server(s) for their 
 own client.

Good idea. We'll mirror the file once we get the new xmpp.net up and
running.

Peter

-- 
Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation
http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.shtml



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