Re: [jdev] J2ME client
ok well if you see anything please let me know, Thanks On 12/18/06, Hal Rottenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good luck. There aren't (m)any nice GPL ones for Windows Mobile either. :/ On 12/17/06, Denis O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks but I'm still looking for a good J2ME client... On 12/17/06, Tomasz Sterna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia 17-12-2006, nie o godzinie 12:55 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner napisał(a): Or you can make a derived work and if it is BSD, then the derived work can be any licence. Not exactly true. Even in derived work, you have to obey the license conditions of the work you derive from. You may extend it further, but cannot change, or remove any requirements. Only the copyright holder can make changes. Example: If there is an advertising clause in the BSD-like license you derive from, you cannot restrict it to GPL, because GPL especially forbids inserting advertising clauses. There are a few more caveats, when you want just to take BSD-like licensed code and make it GPL. That's why there is GNU-TLS rewritten from scratch instead of taking BSD-like licensed OpenSSL and changing its license. That's why Linux TCP/IP stack was implemented from scratch instead of taking a very good one from *BSD and putting it into the Linux kernel while changing license. etc. -- Tomasz Sterna Xiaoka Grp. http://www.xiaoka.com/ -- † гѹ§ † ™ -- Psi webmaster (http://psi-im.org) im:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://halr9000.com -- † гѹ§ † ™
Re: [jdev] J2ME client
Dnia 16-12-2006, sob o godzinie 21:59 +0100, Sander Devrieze napisał(a): AFAIK, you can take the BSD code and relicense from BSD to GPL without problems. No. You may change the license only if you're the copyright holder (author by default). But you may release your changes to the BSD-like licensed code under GPL. This creates mixed-license application. -- Tomasz Sterna Xiaoka Grp. http://www.xiaoka.com/
Re: [jdev] J2ME client
Hello On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:33:48PM +0100, Tomasz Sterna wrote: Dnia 16-12-2006, sob o godzinie 21:59 +0100, Sander Devrieze napisał(a): AFAIK, you can take the BSD code and relicense from BSD to GPL without problems. No. You may change the license only if you're the copyright holder (author by default). But you may release your changes to the BSD-like licensed code under GPL. This creates mixed-license application. Or you can make a derived work and if it is BSD, then the derived work can be any licence. However, you have to rename the app (so the original author is not blamed by your bugs). -- There are two types of optimizations. The ones which make the program slower and the ones which make the user red by missing features. Michal vorner Vaner pgpNdp3crR7c2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [jdev] J2ME client
Dnia 17-12-2006, nie o godzinie 12:55 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner napisał(a): Or you can make a derived work and if it is BSD, then the derived work can be any licence. Not exactly true. Even in derived work, you have to obey the license conditions of the work you derive from. You may extend it further, but cannot change, or remove any requirements. Only the copyright holder can make changes. Example: If there is an advertising clause in the BSD-like license you derive from, you cannot restrict it to GPL, because GPL especially forbids inserting advertising clauses. There are a few more caveats, when you want just to take BSD-like licensed code and make it GPL. That's why there is GNU-TLS rewritten from scratch instead of taking BSD-like licensed OpenSSL and changing its license. That's why Linux TCP/IP stack was implemented from scratch instead of taking a very good one from *BSD and putting it into the Linux kernel while changing license. etc. -- Tomasz Sterna Xiaoka Grp. http://www.xiaoka.com/
Re: [jdev] J2ME client
Ok, thanks but I'm still looking for a good J2ME client... On 12/17/06, Tomasz Sterna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia 17-12-2006, nie o godzinie 12:55 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner napisał(a): Or you can make a derived work and if it is BSD, then the derived work can be any licence. Not exactly true. Even in derived work, you have to obey the license conditions of the work you derive from. You may extend it further, but cannot change, or remove any requirements. Only the copyright holder can make changes. Example: If there is an advertising clause in the BSD-like license you derive from, you cannot restrict it to GPL, because GPL especially forbids inserting advertising clauses. There are a few more caveats, when you want just to take BSD-like licensed code and make it GPL. That's why there is GNU-TLS rewritten from scratch instead of taking BSD-like licensed OpenSSL and changing its license. That's why Linux TCP/IP stack was implemented from scratch instead of taking a very good one from *BSD and putting it into the Linux kernel while changing license. etc. -- Tomasz Sterna Xiaoka Grp. http://www.xiaoka.com/ -- † гѹ§ † ™
Re: [jdev] J2ME client
Good luck. There aren't (m)any nice GPL ones for Windows Mobile either. :/ On 12/17/06, Denis O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, thanks but I'm still looking for a good J2ME client... On 12/17/06, Tomasz Sterna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia 17-12-2006, nie o godzinie 12:55 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner napisał(a): Or you can make a derived work and if it is BSD, then the derived work can be any licence. Not exactly true. Even in derived work, you have to obey the license conditions of the work you derive from. You may extend it further, but cannot change, or remove any requirements. Only the copyright holder can make changes. Example: If there is an advertising clause in the BSD-like license you derive from, you cannot restrict it to GPL, because GPL especially forbids inserting advertising clauses. There are a few more caveats, when you want just to take BSD-like licensed code and make it GPL. That's why there is GNU-TLS rewritten from scratch instead of taking BSD-like licensed OpenSSL and changing its license. That's why Linux TCP/IP stack was implemented from scratch instead of taking a very good one from *BSD and putting it into the Linux kernel while changing license. etc. -- Tomasz Sterna Xiaoka Grp. http://www.xiaoka.com/ -- † гѹ§ † ™ -- Psi webmaster (http://psi-im.org) im:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://halr9000.com
[jdev] J2ME client
Hi, I'm looking for the best J2ME open source client on the market. I've come across mjabber and mobber. mjabber works nicely but it isn't under the GPL licence so i can't make modifications and mobber is a bit buggy. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Denis
Re: [jdev] J2ME client
There is Bombus[1] which is using a BSD like license and is also written in J2ME. [1] http://bombus.jrudevels.org/ regards Tobias Markmann On 12/16/06, Denis O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the best J2ME open source client on the market. I've come across mjabber and mobber. mjabber works nicely but it isn't under the GPL licence so i can't make modifications and mobber is a bit buggy. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Denis
Re: [jdev] J2ME client
I'm looking for something under the GPL licence :( On 12/16/06, Tobias Markmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is Bombus[1] which is using a BSD like license and is also written in J2ME. [1] http://bombus.jrudevels.org/ regards Tobias Markmann On 12/16/06, Denis O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the best J2ME open source client on the market. I've come across mjabber and mobber. mjabber works nicely but it isn't under the GPL licence so i can't make modifications and mobber is a bit buggy. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Denis -- † гѹ§ † ™
Re: [jdev] J2ME client
Denis O'Brien schreef: I'm looking for something under the GPL licence :( AFAIK, you can take the BSD code and relicense from BSD to GPL without problems. -- Mvg, Sander Devrieze.
[jdev] J2ME Client library
Hi all, I am looking for a J2ME Jabber library for my application. I came across mJabber. but is there any open source library or client available ? rgds -bala- __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://jabberstudio.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev
Re: [jdev] J2ME Client library
Hi Bala, check j-xmpp on jabberstudio. It should work on j2me without problems but is not 100% complete, but does the basic stuff like logging in, sending messages and so on, it has a plain observer pattern, simply register a listener for iq and message events and all those events get piped to your listener. ulrich Bala Murali wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a J2ME Jabber library for my application. I came across mJabber. but is there any open source library or client available ? rgds -bala- __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://jabberstudio.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://jabberstudio.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev
[JDEV] J2me client receiving xml problem
hi all i have developed a j2me client similar to the one at alsutton's site. am using his xmlparser to parse the xml packets that i receive from the stream created from the connection to the jabber server. my problem is that after i send stream:stream it gives me in reply ?xml. after that i send the authentication xml for which i get the packet iq type=result id=login once i am authenticated i send request for agents but i receive no reply i've tried all possible combinations of sending roster,agents,presence packets.but still no reply is there a problem with the xmlparser ? has anyone worked with the source at alsutton.com plz help _ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and review jobs in India or Abroad http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
