Re: Request for access to YouTube account

['Alyssa Tong' via Jenkins Developers]

+1 from me as well

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:18 AM Adrien Lecharpentier <
adrien.lecharpent...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> Le mer. 26 oct. 2022 à 15:16, Alexander Brandes  a
> écrit :
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 15:09:53 UTC+2 damien@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for me!
>>>
>>> Bruno's work on the SIG is clearly an indicator of the trust we can put.
>>> I'm also convinced that he'll have plenty of idea to
>>> documente/describe/improve the SIG publication process
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 26 octobre 2022 à 15:07:33 UTC+2, ullrich...@gmail.com a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 +1

 Am 26.10.2022 um 14:42 schrieb timja...@gmail.com :

 +1

 On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 13:18:13 UTC+1 goun...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Hi group,
>
> I sometimes run the Platform SIG meeting (like
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2322YxIciQ) and would like to be
> able to post the resulting video to YouTube when Mark is on PTO for 
> example.
> Therefore I'm asking the authorization to be granted access to the
> Youtube account/channel (to upload the recording to the channel).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Bruno Verachten
>

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Re: JDK 11.0.17+8

[Basil Crow]

Checking the release notes at
https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/11-0-17-relnotes.html
I see 11.0.17 contains fixes for JDK-8231454 and JDK-8268773, which
are relevant to Jenkins. The update of tzdata will also resolve
JENKINS-69635. The fix for JDK-8231454 was already worked around in
Pipeline: Groovy and Script Security, and I manually stepped through
the workaround code on 11.0.17 to verify that it was harmless (though
unnecessary) on an 11.0.17 JVM with the fix for JDK-8231454. The fix
for JDK-8268773 should not be needed as of recent versions of
Remoting. I ran my local development Jenkins controller on 11.0.17 and
did not experience any problems running various job types
interactively. I also ran the following test suites on 11.0.17
successfully:

- Jenkins core smoke tests
- Pipeline: Groovy
- Script Security
- Remoting

A quick perusal of
https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/jdk-updates-dev/2022-October/ does
not appear to show any major regressions in the past week since the
release took place, unlike 11.0.16 (where
https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/jdk-updates-dev/2022-August/016460.html
was being actively discussed).

Based on the above, I do not anticipate any problems with the C2 JIT
compiler, the metaspace, or container awareness for cgroups v2 (which
are the three categories where we experienced issues with 11.0.16). If
it is feasible without too much effort to run the BOM test suite
against 11.0.17 before our agents are upgraded, I think that would be
safest. But if that is not practical, I think it would be fine to
upgrade our agents and merely monitor core and BOM builds afterward to
ensure no new failures are introduced.

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Re: Request for access to YouTube account

[Adrien Lecharpentier]

+1

Le mer. 26 oct. 2022 à 15:16, Alexander Brandes  a
écrit :

> +1
>
> On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 15:09:53 UTC+2 damien@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for me!
>>
>> Bruno's work on the SIG is clearly an indicator of the trust we can put.
>> I'm also convinced that he'll have plenty of idea to
>> documente/describe/improve the SIG publication process
>>
>> Le mercredi 26 octobre 2022 à 15:07:33 UTC+2, ullrich...@gmail.com a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Am 26.10.2022 um 14:42 schrieb timja...@gmail.com :
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 13:18:13 UTC+1 goun...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi group,

 I sometimes run the Platform SIG meeting (like
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2322YxIciQ) and would like to be able
 to post the resulting video to YouTube when Mark is on PTO for example.
 Therefore I'm asking the authorization to be granted access to the
 Youtube account/channel (to upload the recording to the channel).

 Best wishes,

 Bruno Verachten

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Re: Request for access to YouTube account

[Alexander Brandes]

+1

On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 15:09:53 UTC+2 damien@gmail.com wrote:

> +1 for me!
>
> Bruno's work on the SIG is clearly an indicator of the trust we can put.
> I'm also convinced that he'll have plenty of idea to 
> documente/describe/improve the SIG publication process
>
> Le mercredi 26 octobre 2022 à 15:07:33 UTC+2, ullrich...@gmail.com a 
> écrit :
>
>> +1
>>
>> Am 26.10.2022 um 14:42 schrieb timja...@gmail.com :
>>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 13:18:13 UTC+1 goun...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi group,
>>>
>>> I sometimes run the Platform SIG meeting (like 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2322YxIciQ) and would like to be able 
>>> to post the resulting video to YouTube when Mark is on PTO for example.
>>> Therefore I'm asking the authorization to be granted access to the 
>>> Youtube account/channel (to upload the recording to the channel).
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Bruno Verachten
>>>
>>
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Re: Request for access to YouTube account

[Damien Duportal]

+1 for me!

Bruno's work on the SIG is clearly an indicator of the trust we can put.
I'm also convinced that he'll have plenty of idea to 
documente/describe/improve the SIG publication process

Le mercredi 26 octobre 2022 à 15:07:33 UTC+2, ullrich...@gmail.com a écrit :

> +1
>
> Am 26.10.2022 um 14:42 schrieb timja...@gmail.com :
>
> +1
>
> On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 13:18:13 UTC+1 goun...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi group,
>>
>> I sometimes run the Platform SIG meeting (like 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2322YxIciQ) and would like to be able 
>> to post the resulting video to YouTube when Mark is on PTO for example.
>> Therefore I'm asking the authorization to be granted access to the 
>> Youtube account/channel (to upload the recording to the channel).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Bruno Verachten
>>
>
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Re: Request for access to YouTube account

['Kevin Martens' via Jenkins Developers]

+1

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:07 AM Ullrich Hafner 
wrote:

> +1
>
> Am 26.10.2022 um 14:42 schrieb timja...@gmail.com :
>
> +1
>
> On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 13:18:13 UTC+1 goun...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi group,
>>
>> I sometimes run the Platform SIG meeting (like
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2322YxIciQ) and would like to be able
>> to post the resulting video to YouTube when Mark is on PTO for example.
>> Therefore I'm asking the authorization to be granted access to the
>> Youtube account/channel (to upload the recording to the channel).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Bruno Verachten
>>
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Re: Request for access to YouTube account

[Ullrich Hafner]

+1

> Am 26.10.2022 um 14:42 schrieb timja...@gmail.com :
> 
> +1
> 
> On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 13:18:13 UTC+1 goun...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> I sometimes run the Platform SIG meeting (like 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2322YxIciQ 
> ) and would like to be able to 
> post the resulting video to YouTube when Mark is on PTO for example.
> Therefore I'm asking the authorization to be granted access to the Youtube 
> account/channel (to upload the recording to the channel).
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Bruno Verachten
> 
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Re: Request for access to YouTube account

[timja...@gmail.com]

+1

On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 13:18:13 UTC+1 goun...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi group,
>
> I sometimes run the Platform SIG meeting (like 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2322YxIciQ) and would like to be able to 
> post the resulting video to YouTube when Mark is on PTO for example.
> Therefore I'm asking the authorization to be granted access to the Youtube 
> account/channel (to upload the recording to the channel).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Bruno Verachten
>

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Request for access to YouTube account

[Verachten Bruno]

Hi group,

I sometimes run the Platform SIG meeting (like 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2322YxIciQ) and would like to be able to 
post the resulting video to YouTube when Mark is on PTO for example.
Therefore I'm asking the authorization to be granted access to the Youtube 
account/channel (to upload the recording to the channel).

Best wishes,

Bruno Verachten

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Re: Translating some tutorials?

['Daniel Beck' via Jenkins Developers]

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 11:59 AM 'Alina Strohaya' via Jenkins Developers <
jenkinsci-dev@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I'm kind of surprised that you said this about maintenance, because if
> it's in OSS, and gets outdated, or people notice something they want to
> improve, they can file a PR and add to it. The community can review and
> assist. On an article on this kind of site, I'm the sole author. If I don't
> maintain or update it, no one will, it's just me.
>

True in the general case, but translations might be special in that a
relatively small group (contributors and reviewers) becomes even smaller
(contributors and reviewers fluent in a specific language). Additionally,
neither many contributors nor the majority of users will be able to even
identify content problems, and if they're identified, getting them
addressed other than just deletion is a new challenge. When KK merged
anonymously contributed translations without review, there was some
embarrassing
nonsense

included
in Jenkins for several years.

In general, we've not had great experiences in the past with bigger
translation projects specifically.
https://plugins.jenkins.io/localization-zh-cn/ , for which there's an
entire JEP, has had two contributions and no releases in the last
two years. Two other contributors wanted to go this route in core PRs #4306
and #4775 (first step: delete all translations that already exist…), and
there was very little followup when we suggested they start contributing
regular translations first.  The Chinese localized version of jenkins.io is
badly outdated: https://www.jenkins.io/zh/changelog-stable/ is probably the
most easily understandable example.

In the case of a localized tutorial, it is unclear what would need to be
done when the source text is substantially updated. In core, we generally
delete affected translations, resulting in a fallback to the updated
English text for a few more strings on the UI, and IIRC there've been some
interesting discrepancies when we didn't do that. Deleting an entire
tutorial doesn't seem practical.

I absolutely do not want to discourage you from contributing translations!
As a project we need to consider how this plays out long-term, including
after you've moved on or lost interest. If you have suggestions how we
would navigate that, it'd make your proposal much stronger.

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JDK 11.0.17+8

[Damien Duportal]

Hello dear contributors,

The Jenkins Infrastructure team received automatic notification of a new 
JDK11 version: 11.0.17+8 (changelog at 
https://foojay.io/java-11/?version=11.0.17=102022=component).

Our usual process is to upgrade the JDK on the next update of the agent 
templates for ci.jenkins.io. 

However last time we bumped the JDK, it created regressions and unexpected 
work on some Jenkins Core change requests (not mentioning thet 11.0.16 line 
had to be patched because of memory issues to 11.0.16.1).

In order to avoid as much disruption as posible, we are seeking your 
feedbacks on this upgrade.

Here is the timeline proposal: 

We would want to upgrade the JDK11 on the ci.jenkins.io agents for the 
Thursday 03 of November (The next LTS release is the 2nd).

Is there any voice against this timeline for change?

Thanks in advance

Damien, for the infrastructure team

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Re: Translating some tutorials?

['Alina Strohaya' via Jenkins Developers]

I'm kind of surprised that you said this about maintenance, because if it's 
in OSS, and gets outdated, or people notice something they want to improve, 
they can file a PR and add to it. The community can review and assist. On 
an article on this kind of site, I'm the sole author. If I don't maintain 
or update it, no one will, it's just me.

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 3:17:25 PM UTC+2 Oleg Nenashev wrote:

> Hi! My recommendation would be to start in a separate resource, e.g. by 
> publishing tutorials on Medium or Habr.com
> It would give more traffic than just publishing on jenkins.io IMHO, 
> especially given the fact it would be difficult to maintain iot for new 
> features.
>
> P.S: Happy to promote through https://twitter.com/jenkins_ru and the 
> Russian community's Telegram channels
>
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 3:14:57 PM UTC+2 c_ast...@cloudbees.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I think it could be useful translate some tutorial documentation (I'd 
>> translate into Russian). I'm looking at 
>> https://www.jenkins.io/doc/developer/tutorial/ in particular, it seems 
>> like useful entry-level knowledge and I feel like translated guides can 
>> ease entry a little.
>> I however am not sure of where to put it really? I see a dropdown to 
>> switch the whole jenkins.io site to Chinese, but I highly doubt a couple 
>> tutorial pages warrant an entire copy of the site. Adding some link to the 
>> English tutorial with the translated version, or something like that?
>>
>

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