[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Mostyn Bramley-Moore commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Updated https://github.com/jenkinsci/packaging/pull/107 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Daniel Beck commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency But I don't know if Jenkins runs on OpenJDK 7 Hasn't since 2.54. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Toni Müller commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency That should imho do the trick for Debian Stretch and Buster, as far as I can see at the moment, and for Jessie users if they have backports enabled. If you can depend on openjdk-8-jre-headless | openjdk-7-jre-headless | then you would cover all Debian versions back to Wheezy. But I don't know if Jenkins runs on OpenJDK 7. And, as said, I don't know what to depend on for Ubuntu & friends, although it might well be the very same stuff. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Mostyn Bramley-Moore commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Then how about we depend upon "openjdk-8-jre-headless | " ? Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Toni Müller edited a comment on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency If you depend on java8-runtime-headless, than that's obviously too general. Therefore I suggested depending on openjdk-8-jre-headless for Debian/Stretch (don't know about Ubuntu), which will be OpenJDK 8 _only, no other version_. If you also want to accommodate other editions of Java, I don't know what to do, but I consider OpenJDK the go-to edition of Java on Debian. You then should not need to conflict with anything, just make sure you pick up the right version of Java if several versions are installed. I just checked, and it looks as if openjdk-8-jre-headless is still also in unstable, which would allow for this version being installed on the next version of Debian unless someone pulls it (but I don't see why). In future versions of Debian after Buster, it is at some point to be expected that they will only ship higher versions of OpenJDK, so at that point, which is several years in the future, Jenkins should run on, say, OpenJDK 11. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Toni Müller commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency If you depend on java8-runtime-headless, than that's obviously too general. Therefore I suggested depending on openjdk-8-jre-headless for Debian/Stretch (don't know about Ubuntu), which will be OpenJDK 8 only, no other version. If you also want to accommodate other editions of Java, I don't know what to do, but I consider OpenJDK the go-to edition of Java on Debian. I just checked, and it looks as if openjdk-8-jre-headless is still also in unstable, which would allow for this version being installed on the next version of Debian unless someone pulls it (but I don't see why). In future versions of Debian after Buster, it is at some point to be expected that they will only ship higher versions of OpenJDK, so at that point, which is several years in the future, Jenkins should run on, say, OpenJDK 11. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Mostyn Bramley-Moore commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Debian/ubuntu openjdk-*-jre-headless packages specify all previous versions in the Provides field: $ apt-cache show openjdk-9-jre-headless | grep Provides Provides: java-runtime-headless, java2-runtime-headless, java5-runtime-headless, java6-runtime-headless, java7-runtime-headless, java8-runtime-headless, java9-runtime-headless So, what if we were to create a package with the following constraints: 1) depends on java8-runtime-headless 2) conflicts with java9-runtime-headless I guess this would technically be too strict- it would not be possible to have both openjdk-8-jre-headless and openjdk-9-jre-headless installed, even if jenkins was configured to use v8 at runtime. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Daniel Beck commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency What would be wrong with generating different java dependencies for different versions of Jenkins and Debian? FWIW, in Stretch (current version of Debian) the dependencies should imho list openjdk-8-jre-headless, and probably openjdk-10-jre-headless for the next version of Debian, otherwise openjdk-11-jre-headless. It most likely depends on when Debian will freeze for Buster. Please file a PR to the packaging repo to demonstrate what you mean. FWIW Jenkins does not run on Java 9+, so having such dependencies would be broken to begin with. Notably, some Java 9+ packages on a Linux distro (don't remember which) satisfied our old java dependency, and Jenkins didn't start. That was fun. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Toni Müller commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency What would be wrong with generating different java dependencies for different versions of Jenkins and Debian? FWIW, in Stretch (current version of Debian) the dependencies should imho list openjdk-8-jre-headless, and probably openjdk-10-jre-headless for the next version of Debian, otherwise openjdk-11-jre-headless. It most likely depends on when Debian will freeze for Buster. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.10.1#710002-sha1:6efc396) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Mostyn Bramley-Moore commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Sure: https://github.com/jenkinsci/packaging/pull/107 Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.3.0#73011-sha1:3c73d0e) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Daniel Beck commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Mostyn Bramley-Moore Could you file a PR? CC Sam Van Oort who is the closest we have to a maintainer of packaging, I think. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.3.0#73011-sha1:3c73d0e) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Mostyn Bramley-Moore commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency These dependencies was removed: default-jre-headless (>= 2:1.8) | java8-runtime-headless How about adding back something like this? java8-runtime-headless | openjdk-8-jre-headless Though perhaps only java8-runtime-headless is required. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.3.0#73011-sha1:3c73d0e) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Daniel Beck commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Caused by https://github.com/jenkinsci/packaging/commit/f5efeb3309a1f17193e05442201eeff01fb51e5b#diff-385242a38c7d9464b1f85b37f1753721 for JENKINS-45287 which has long been used, just not for the 2.107 line until 2.107.3. If there's a sane way to specify "only Java 8", ideally in a vendor independent manner (e.g. work on Ubuntu or whoever else uses debs), then this should be trivial to fix. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.3.0#73011-sha1:3c73d0e) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Mostyn Bramley-Moore commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Oliver Gondža: correct. Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.3.0#73011-sha1:3c73d0e) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Oliver Gondža commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Am I correct to understand this does not affects updating users as long as they do not call apt-get autoremove and for new installs this will require users to install (correct) java versions manually? Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.3.0#73011-sha1:3c73d0e) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Oleg Nenashev updated an issue Jenkins / JENKINS-51253 jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Change By: Oleg Nenashev Labels: regression Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.3.0#73011-sha1:3c73d0e) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Oleg Nenashev commented on JENKINS-51253 Re: jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency FYI Daniel Beck Oliver Gondža Kohsuke Kawaguchi . Likely this is a regression due to the packaging issue Add Comment This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.3.0#73011-sha1:3c73d0e) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Issues" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jenkinsci-issues+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
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Mostyn Bramley-Moore updated an issue
Jenkins / JENKINS-51253
jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
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Mostyn Bramley-Moore
It seems that jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb no longer has an explicit dependency on default-jre-headless or java8-runtime-headless, which means jenkins installations are easily broken if "apt-get autoremove" is run (and it's generally good practice for debian/ubuntu admins to run this command periodically). jenkins_2.107.2_all.deb and earlier had the correct dependency. There is a comment on [https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian/] which suggests that this is intentional:{quote}You will need to explicitly install a Java runtime environment, *because Jenkins does not work with Java 9*, this is the safest way to ensure your system ends properly configured. Adding an explicit dependency requirement on Java could force installation of undesired versions of the JVM. Check JENKINS-40689 for more details about Jenkins and Java 9 compatibility.{quote} ...but this seems wrong- the package should just depend on java8 packages specifically.
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[JIRA] (JENKINS-51253) jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency
Title: Message Title Mostyn Bramley-Moore created an issue Jenkins / JENKINS-51253 jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb depends on java being installed but no longer has this explicit dependency Issue Type: Bug Assignee: Unassigned Components: core Created: 2018-05-10 20:26 Environment: debian/ubuntu Priority: Major Reporter: Mostyn Bramley-Moore It seems that jenkins_2.107.3_all.deb no longer has an explicit dependency on default-jre-headless or java8-runtime-headless, which means jenkins installations are easily broken if "apt-get autoremove" is run (and it's generally good practice for debian/ubuntu admins to run this command periodically). jenkins_2.107.2_all.deb and earlier had the correct dependency. Add Comment
