RE: shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Mark via Jfw
Hello,

The announcement does not occur when I shut down my Windows 10 computer.  

Please keep in mind that since Windows 8, unless one specifically disables
the Fast User Switching option, the computer does not shut down in the sense
that we have come to understand the term in prior versions of Windows.
Instead, the default shut down option in both Windows 8.x and 10 places the
computer in a kind of hibernation mode preserving certain settings.

In order to truly shut down the computer, in the classic meaning of the
phrase, one must disable the fast-user switching located in the power
options settings of the OS.  Once done, (1) Jaws will no longer announce
itself and (2) the computer will truly be shut down as it was in Windows 7
and earlier.

Mark

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Londa Peterson
Subject: RE: shutting down.

This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well. 

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
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Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: shutting down.

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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How To Stop Windows 10's Prying Eyes

2015-08-11 Thread Mark via Jfw
Hello Everyone,  

I strongly suggest that anyone who has already installed or is considering
installing Windows 10, read this article, the link to which may be found at
the bottom of the text.

Mark

How To Stop Windows 10's  Prying Eyes

Windows 10 is here, and Microsoft's latest operating system is designed for
a mobile-first, cloud-first future, as CEO Satya Nadella puts it. But that
future relies on big data - your data - and by default, Windows 10 can track
and share the websites you visit, the purchases you make, the places you go,
the words you type, the things you say and more.

You have the ability to control Windows 10's data collection, but it takes
some doing. The installation process lets you customize privacy settings at
the end or go with the defaults in express settings. We'd suggest taking
the extra two minutes to forgo the latter and make your own choices here, or
adjusting the options after installation, because Microsoft's default
privacy settings might not be as private as you'd like.

The first page of settings lists four options that you can toggle on or off,
while the second page lists five items. All of them are on by default.

Under Personalization, the first setting tailors your speech, typing and
inking input to the way you talk, type and write ... by sending contacts
and calendar details, along with other associated input data to Microsoft.
The next setting sends typing and inking data to Microsoft to improve the
recognition and suggestion platform.


Must Read
 Windows 10 may do the impossible: help Microsoft win back the hearts of PC
gamers Some people may be comfortable with this usage; after all,
third-party smartphone keyboards like SwiftKey improve their autocorrect
functionality by learning how you type. But for others, sharing contacts
and calendar details may be a bridge too far.

Next is a rather nebulous entry: Let apps use your advertising ID for
experiences across apps. What this sentence doesn't quite explain is that
Windows 10 generates a unique advertising ID for each user. If this option
is enabled, it allows app developers and ad networks to profile you using
that ID and serve you ads based on how you use your PC.

The final part of the first settings page concerns location. Your computer
may not have a GPS radio in it like your smartphone does, but if you're
connected to the internet, your location can be tracked through your IP
address. With this option enabled, you're allowing Windows and apps to
request your location, including your location history. That's useful for
location-based services like, say, telling a retailer's website where you
are so it can give you the address of the nearest store.

However, the location setting also lets Windows 10 send Microsoft and
trusted partners some location data to improve location services. That part
of the equation may give you pause, especially since you have no say in what
Microsoft's trusted partners might be. (ExtremeTech reports that the
Windows 8 installation process included a similar setting, but without the
sharing of your data with so-called trusted partners.)

Let's move to page two. The first toggle in the browser section enables
Microsoft's SmartScreen Filter, which protects you against malicious
content and downloads in Windows browsers - Microsoft Edge, which debuts in
Windows 10, and Internet Explorer - and Windows Store apps. That sounds
pretty good! Next is a setting for page prediction, which sends your
browsing data to Microsoft to improve reading, speed up browsing, and make
your overall experience better in Windows browsers. You may have a similar
feature enabled in your existing web browser, such as Google Chrome.

 
The next two options govern the way your PC connects to wireless networks,
as part of a new Windows 10 feature called Wi-Fi Sense. The first setting
lets you automatically connect to suggested open hotspots, while the
second does the same for networks shared by your contacts.

According to Microsoft's Wi-Fi Sense FAQ, the former setting relies on
Microsoft's crowdsourced database of open Wi-Fi hotspots. If enough people
get a good-quality connection from a hotspot, it'll be added to the
database.

The second setting is meant to eliminate the hassle of asking a friend for
their Wi-Fi password when you visit their place. If enabled, the setting
does two things: (1) allows you to select Wi-Fi networks to share with your
Outlook.com contacts, Skype contacts or Facebook friends, and (2) lets your
PC automatically connect to networks people have shared with you.

The way this works is that Wi-Fi passwords are shared through Wi-Fi Sense.
The passwords are encrypted, and Wi-Fi Sense only provides internet access,
not file sharing access. But those encrypted passwords are stored on a
Microsoft server somewhere. And there's no granularity: If you click the
Facebook check box, Wi-Fi Sense will allow all of your Facebook friends to
connect to networks you've selected for sharing.

The 

How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

2015-08-11 Thread Mark via Jfw
Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO) 

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service. 

1.
Click the Windows 10 Start Button and select Settings 
 
2.
Select Update  security from the Settings menu. 
 
3.
Click Advanced options 
 
4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered 
 
5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off 
 
6.
All done!


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RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

2015-08-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Mark, this information is brailled and in my notebook, so that I can follow
your instructions to the T. Thanks.

Best from,

Carolyn


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:19 PM
To: 'Jaws for Windows' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark facebookm...@candleshoreblog.com
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO) 

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service. 

1.
Click the Windows 10 Start Button and select Settings 
 
2.
Select Update  security from the Settings menu. 
 
3.
Click Advanced options 
 
4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered 
 
5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off 
 
6.
All done!


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This is a test!

2015-08-11 Thread Thomas W Williams via Jfw
 

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RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

2015-08-11 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
That's good to hear.  Most people know that Lenovo has that IBM pedigree--quite 
a family tradition.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

I wish that had been the case. I bought a Lenovo on sale. It has 12 gb RQAM and 
1 tb memory. My husband calls it a Hummer. I said on Facebook that it set me 
back but was not a set back. 

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via 
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Carolyn,

Do I understand that you can still receive a free copy of Windows 10 for an XP 
installation? I thought it was only available to Windows 7 and Windows 8 
installations.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't speak 
for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it!

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via 
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM
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Cc: Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just 
have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing 
that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use 
something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows
7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that 
Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if 
I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have 
to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will 
be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking 
some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? 
Or does the old saying, If it ain't broke, don't fix it, apply here? I'd 
really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything 
beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your 
functioning computer to see if it will still function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall?
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RE: Clarification of my question, and thank yous

2015-08-11 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
I agree.  For example, the must-have, sexy feature of JAWS 16 for me has been 
the added OCR-PDF capability, and it has not disappointed.  

On a secondary issue, if you have time for a brief VLC discussion, please drop 
me a line at ted.li...@ky.gov.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via 
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Clarification of my question, and thank yous

Hi all,

Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that anyone shouldn't upgrade to Windows 10, 
or that I never would. I'm sure I will eventually--quite possibly next year if 
it works well enough. The intent of my question was that with all of the new 
features that are available but which we can't use yet, I wasn't clear what I 
would gain by going through that process today, right now, this week. I have a 
desktop that's not quite two years old, but I've got lots of horsepower in it; 
it won't have any trouble meeting the Windows 10 requirements. Then I have a 
cheap laptop which is not quite a year and a half old, and it's pretty basic, 
but should also function fine with Windows 10. Both are running Windows 7. 
Both are doing very well for me. Nothing's slow. Everything I need for home and 
work just works. It's really a blessing. So the goal of my inquiry was to 
understand what great improvements I should expect from upgrading to Windows 10 
right now. To this point, I haven't heard anything that's made me want to drop 
what I'm working on to upgrade my perfectly functioning machines before I go to 
bed tonight. It does sound like Windows 8.1 users may be very grateful to get 
back the Windows 7 functionality that Microsoft should never have taken away in 
the first place, and I think if I had 8.1, I'd be thinking more seriously about 
diving into the Windows 10 pool.

On a completely separate note, I thought an interesting item is the fact that 
for a limited time, people who upgrade to Windows 10 will get a DVD player for 
free to replace their current Windows Media Center; but later adopters will 
have to pay separately for Microsoft's DVD player de jour. 
This would be compelling if I hadn't abandoned Windows Media Player years ago 
for the free VLC Media Player.

Thank you to all who have contributed to this discussion. It has been most 
helpful. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

Brad
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RE: stubborn remnants

2015-08-11 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
I've noticed those left behind, but don't remember having trouble getting rid 
of them the old-fashioned way.  You might try something like Revo Uninstaller.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: stubborn remnances

after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I checked the 
programs and features applett and found:

Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific  7/ 13/ 2015
10.9 MB 6.1.004
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific  8/ 28/
2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific  8/ 27/
2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400
Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific  8/ 27/ 2013
12.6.305.0


opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following which also 
happens with the 14 talking installer:

The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable.

Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a folder containing the 
installation package 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box below.
C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\
OK


The path
'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi'
cannot be found. Verify that you have access to this
location and try again, or try to find the installation package 
'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install the product Freedom 
Scientific Talking Installer 13.0.
Cancel


The installation source for this product is not available.  Verify that the 
source exists and that you can access it.

I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed components, so 
left those alone.

how to cleanly remove both talking installers?

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RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

2015-08-11 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
When you uncheck, you're using the Office ribbon, instead of the virtual ribbon.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via 
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 6:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons?  I followed 
Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but 
I would like to know the argument for not doing this.  If it matters, I'm 
running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16.  Thanks.

Les

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via 
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Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM
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Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS 
attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users.
Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used 
to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to 
be aware of the consequences.

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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open 
Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting 
is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D 
as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow 
to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be 
unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is 
checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to 
save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010


 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
 White via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010

 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
 ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the 
 Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration 
 Menu?

 This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option 
 under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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 From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
 Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010


 Hi,

 I'm having the same problem Barbara is having.  I press Alt-V 
 followed by C and V and hear nothing.  Tabbing yields a blank area 
 which Jaws speaks.

 Les

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin 
 Hourigan via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Kevin Hourigan
 Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

 Hello Barbra,
 I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and 
 pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up 
 Current view group box, with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara 
 Hansen via Jfw
 Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
 To: Jfw lists jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Barbara Hansen the2skibe...@embarqmail.com
 Subject: changing the view in outlook 2010

 Hi List friends,



 Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion 
 to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The 
 suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the 
 ribbons menu and enter on the view menu, nothing happens. It just 
 says blank. I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says 
 blank.



 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



 Barbara

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RE: Best email client with Jaws

2015-08-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
The more you all are telling me, I'm thinking, might as well stick with
Outlook - the devil I am getting to know. 

Best from,

Carolyn

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Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I loved the old Qualcomm Eudora, but I ran into some problems running it
under 64-bit Windows 7. There was probably a work around, but a sighted
friend kept telling me how much she loved Thunderbird, so I finally gave it
a try around the time I got this computer. I love it. It's clean, simple,
almost never crashes on me, sorts my mail by Email account (I have several),
spellchecks as I type (although the dictionary is a little limited as is),
and works terrific with JAWS version 15 in Windows 7 Pro. And, bonus, it has
a conventional menu bar. A nice plus for me (but probably not needed by most
people) is that I could automate the sending of form letters to my clients
with a shortcut on the desktop. I've been thoroughly impressed with it, and
I kind of didn't expect to be. In other words, I was a tough sell, but you'd
have to give me a really really good reason to switch.

One caution: When I open Thunderbird, I have to Shift Tab once to get into
the list of messages. But it's one keystroke, and now I'm so used to it I
don't even notice.

Brad

On 8/10/2015 4:19 PM, Cliff Self via Jfw wrote:
 Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook.  I can't find the 
 number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole 
 ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me.  Is there another, more 
 accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?

   

 Cliff

   

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RE: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

2015-08-11 Thread Jimmy Jones via Jfw
I have the same thing. It's a Windows problem which is not an easy fix.
However, I noticed this weekend that if I answer no to the wait for program
to start, then go to the desktop and press insert+escape to refresh the
screen it clears up.

I looked up the fix on the Internet, but its beyond my megar abilities to
perform. Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger,
Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 6:29 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Hi,

Running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and latest JAWS 16.

When I go in to Windows Explorer and look at folders and files, it seems to
hang on me.

I get the following message after receiving a dialog to Wait for program to
resume or Exit the program. What does this mean, and what should I do next?
Thanks.


explorer.exe
explorer.exe dialog
explorer.exe
The remote procedure call failed and did not execute.
OK



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RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

2015-08-11 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
And the best part is JAWS help for Office 2007 has a really good short course 
on using the ribbon. I haven't checked to see if it's duplicated for later 
versions of office, but 2007 was the ribbon's initial debut.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via 
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS ribbon, 
we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means we can share 
info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online solutions when we 
encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems regularly, but the 
answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the virtual ribbon.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via 
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the 
keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given.  
Personally, I can live without that.  I've had a real struggle with the ribbons 
ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were 
checked.  I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively 
than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case.  In retrospect, 
use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth.  
Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that 
feature.

Les

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where 
I am? 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010

Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys 
plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS 
instructions while navigating.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010


 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate 
 for ribbon information?

 Carolyn


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
 White via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010

 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this:
 JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually 
 navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed 
 to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true 
 in most instances.

 Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon 
 without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual 
 Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to 
 check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the 
 function of some of the shortcuts.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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 From: Les Kriegler via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Les Kriegler krieg...@nycap.rr.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM
 Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010


 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons?  I 
 followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are 
 easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing 
 this.  If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16.  Thanks.

 Les

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian 
 Spratt via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Adrian Spratt adr...@adrianspratt.com
 Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which 
 is the FS attempt to make 

Re: Best email client with Jaws

2015-08-11 Thread Bill White via Jfw
Hi, Carolyn. I wanted to explain a little more in depth how to send an 
attachment in Outlook.


1. Find the file you want to attach to your letter.
2. Copy it to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.
3. Open Outlook, and open a new message to the person you want to send it 
to.
4. Once the new message is open, use CONTROL plus V to paste the attachment 
directly into the message.

5. Press Enter, and begin composing the body of your e-mail message.
6. Send the message.

That's it. The attachment will be in the message. If you want to verify 
this, go to your Sent Messages folder, open the message you sent, SHIFT plus 
tab until you hear it say Attachments, and check your attachment.

Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com

To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws



Thanks, finally did figure that one out.

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin 
Hourigan

via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold

via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another 
problem

solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to the dictionary
I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold

via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to other
portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total, then
give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the e-mail to
Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I attempted to
send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook, but 
does
apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary, since Control A 
is

not doing that; also I want to know what commands to give Spell Check to
make the change I want.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self 
via

Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self cl...@cablespeed.com
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook.  I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just 
doesn't

make much sense to me.  Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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HotSpot Clicker error question

2015-08-11 Thread Aaron Lane via Jfw

Hello,
I had an old version of HSC and went to install the newest version. During
the install wizard, I was prompted to click Uninstall previous HSC version,
and I did this. Then the wizard told me it would create a back up folder.
Now I open an application that I want to start adding scripts to, and I get
a pop up error that says something to the effect, that I have a
compatibility error, it lists the address to the back up folder I believe,
and it tells me to open Script manager in JAWS, and save to recompile. I do
this, but still continue to receive that error message. I'm using JAWS 12 on
this computer. Any advice? Thanks much.

Aaron






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RE: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

2015-08-11 Thread Jimmy Jones via Jfw
Thanks Mike. That's a fix that I can do.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 7:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Michael B.
Subject: Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Hi Keith,

Try the following:

While in Windows Explorer, go to Tools and then folder options.
Next, move to the view tab, and then the tree-view, and uncheck the
following:
show preview handlers in preview payne.
This problem does not occur on every Win7 machine, but it has been found
that unchecking this option  has corrected the problem on several systems.
This crops up on some 32 and 64-bit systems.
HTH,

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem


Hi,

Running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and latest JAWS 16.

When I go in to Windows Explorer and look at folders and files, it seems to 
hang on me.

I get the following message after receiving a dialog to Wait for program to 
resume or Exit the program. What does this mean, and what should I do next? 
Thanks.


explorer.exe
explorer.exe dialog
explorer.exe
The remote procedure call failed and did not execute.
OK



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RE: Best email client with Jaws

2015-08-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Thank you. This one is going to require careful thinking. 


Best from,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:23 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Hello Carolyn,
I go to the list of files in Windows Explorer, move to the one I wish to
attach, do not open it, but press control C to copy it's address, and then
go to the new  letter I have created, and press control V to paste it in. 
To open an attachment in a letter press insert A, and arrow to the
attachment you wish to open, and press enter. You will notice here that the
message body is presented as an attachment. 
In the conversation regarding turning  off the navigation key feature in
Word, you may wish to leave it so that you can toggle it on and off using
insert Z. It is really useful for navigating around in documents you
createwith Headings to quickly move to various sections of the documents. 
Cheers Kevin. 
Cheers Kevin. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-11-15 7:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Thanks, finally did figure that one out. 

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook? 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another problem
solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to the dictionary
I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold
 


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to other
portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total, then
give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though. 

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the e-mail to
Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I attempted to
send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to block it. 

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook, but does
apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary, since Control A is
not doing that; also I want to know what commands to give Spell Check to
make the change I want. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self cl...@cablespeed.com
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook.  I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me.  Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?

 

Cliff

 

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RE: Best email client with Jaws

2015-08-11 Thread Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
I have not found a quick method for transferring my contacts from WLM to
Outlook yet. 
Outlook has considerably more features than WLM, consequently more stuff to
learn. Except Outlook does not have a very useful emoticon feature, smile. 
Cheers Kevin. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 6:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you went to Live Mail, what did you do about your Contacts? 

Is it easy to make distribution lists in Windows Live Mail. I have several
that I need to make. Today, I needed to send out word of a death to one of
my groups, but do not have the lists now and not the time to go through some
130 contacts for 30. 

What do you like about Windows Live Mail? Does it have a calendar? 

Can you tab around in it, or do you have to give Keyboard commands? 

Carolyn Arnold

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Melissa Stott mstot...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I have used Outlook, and I was annoyed with it. So, I went to Windows live
mail, and have had no issues with it. I suppose it all depends on what you
do with it.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 
 Melissa, if you press Control Y, it asks if  you want to go to another 
 folder and announces how many unread messages are in the file that you 
 are in. I wish it was as easy as Outlook Express, but there are a lot 
 of things that I do like about it. I can live with it. It's kind of 
 like getting a new job, having to leave the old one behind.
 
 Carolyn Arnold
 
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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa 
 Stott via Jfw
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:59 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Melissa Stott mstot...@verizon.net
 Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws
 
 I use Windows Live Mail.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Cliff Self via Jfw 
 jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 wrote:
 
 Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook.  I can't find the 
 number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole 
 ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me.  Is there another, more 
 accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?
 
 
 
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RE: Best email client with Jaws

2015-08-11 Thread Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
Hello Carolyn, 
I go to the list of files in Windows Explorer, move to the one I wish to
attach, do not open it, but press control C to copy it's address, and then
go to the new  letter I have created, and press control V to paste it in. 
To open an attachment in a letter press insert A, and arrow to the
attachment you wish to open, and press enter. You will notice here that the
message body is presented as an attachment. 
In the conversation regarding turning  off the navigation key feature in
Word, you may wish to leave it so that you can toggle it on and off using
insert Z. It is really useful for navigating around in documents you
createwith Headings to quickly move to various sections of the documents. 
Cheers Kevin. 
Cheers Kevin. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-11-15 7:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Thanks, finally did figure that one out. 

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook? 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kevin Hourigan kevinthouri...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another problem
solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to the dictionary
I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold
 


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When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to other
portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total, then
give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though. 

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the e-mail to
Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I attempted to
send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to block it. 

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook, but does
apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary, since Control A is
not doing that; also I want to know what commands to give Spell Check to
make the change I want. 

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Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook.  I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me.  Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?

 

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RE: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

2015-08-11 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Yes, it seems to have done the trick for me. Thanks again, Mike!

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Subject: RE: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Thanks Mike. That's a fix that I can do.

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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 7:23 PM
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Cc: Michael B.
Subject: Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Hi Keith,

Try the following:

While in Windows Explorer, go to Tools and then folder options.
Next, move to the view tab, and then the tree-view, and uncheck the
following:
show preview handlers in preview payne.
This problem does not occur on every Win7 machine, but it has been found that 
unchecking this option  has corrected the problem on several systems.
This crops up on some 32 and 64-bit systems.
HTH,

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Subject: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem


Hi,

Running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and latest JAWS 16.

When I go in to Windows Explorer and look at folders and files, it seems to 
hang on me.

I get the following message after receiving a dialog to Wait for program to 
resume or Exit the program. What does this mean, and what should I do next? 
Thanks.


explorer.exe
explorer.exe dialog
explorer.exe
The remote procedure call failed and did not execute.
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RE: Best email client with Jaws

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JAWS REPEATING

2015-08-11 Thread Mark Furness via Jfw
Running latest jaws.
When I go to a web page, jaws speaks 3 times the beginning.

Why and is there a fix?

Thank you for saving my hearing!
Mark

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RE: Best email client with Jaws

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RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

2015-08-11 Thread Les Kriegler via Jfw
Lile,

I think if the help tutorial wasn't updated, it will be present in later
versions of Jaws.  I will probably go and revisit that tutorial again, as
it's been a couple of years since I listened to it.

Les

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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) ted.li...@ky.gov
Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

And the best part is JAWS help for Office 2007 has a really good short
course on using the ribbon. I haven't checked to see if it's duplicated for
later versions of office, but 2007 was the ribbon's initial debut.

Ted

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There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS
ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means
we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online
solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems
regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the
virtual ribbon.

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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM
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Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the
keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are
given.  Personally, I can live without that.  I've had a real struggle with
the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because
virtual ribbons were checked.  I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the
ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that
was the case.  In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more
trouble than they were worth.  Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but
for now, I won't be using that feature.

Les

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
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Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold 4carol...@windstream.net
Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010

So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or
where I am? 

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Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010

Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys
plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS
instructions while navigating.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010


 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate 
 for ribbon information?

 Carolyn


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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
 White via Jfw
 Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
 Subject: Re: changing the view in outlook 2010

 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this:
 JAWS put in the Virtual Ribbon for those who wanted to manually 
 navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed 
 to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true 
 in most instances.

 Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon 
 without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual 
 Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to 
 check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the 
 function of some of the shortcuts.
 Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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 Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM
 Subject: RE: changing the view in outlook 2010


 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons?  I 
 followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are 
 easier to use, but I would like to know the 

Upgraded to Windows 10 And Have a Question

2015-08-11 Thread Mark via Jfw
Hello Everyone,

I decided to take the plunge and upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
Enterprise.  

I am delighted to say that all seems well, so far.  I had to use Narrator
during the installation because I began the upgrade process before reading
the Freedom Scientific Windows updating page.  I'm certain the process would
have gone much more smoothly if I had but, what's done is done.  During the
upgrade process, I was careful to use the custom settings path, as opposed
to the express setup, to insure that Windows 10 Privacy settings were
adjusted to my comfort level.  Left unchallenged, Windows 10 will attempt to
tap into virtually everything you do and share that info with Microsoft.

My question:

Is there a specific Jaws user email list or forum for those using Windows
10? Or is this still the best place to discuss Windows 10/Jaws.

Oh, one more thing, as yet, I have not installed any third-party apps on my
notebook aside from Office 2007, which was installed prior to the update to
Windows 10.

While I own both Office 2010 professional and Office 2013 Professional, I
see no reason to update to either since 2007 Professional works just fine
for me.

I hope you are all having a great day.

Mark 


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RE: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

2015-08-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
I'd give them five stars. 

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Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

They've got a bunch of good ones, all right, and it's been that way
throughout my tenure as a customer. The mail support folks are good too.

Ted

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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

We needed to call them this morning, because my Num Lock kept knocking on.
We got Eric, and he was as nice as Customer Service there has been to me in
the past - cheers, I'm thankful for that. 

 

Carolyn

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RE: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

2015-08-11 Thread Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
They've got a bunch of good ones, all right, and it's been that way throughout 
my tenure as a customer. The mail support folks are good too.

Ted

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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:46 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

We needed to call them this morning, because my Num Lock kept knocking on.
We got Eric, and he was as nice as Customer Service there has been to me in the 
past - cheers, I'm thankful for that. 

 

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RE: shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Londa Peterson via Jfw
This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well. 

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Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: shutting down.

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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RE: shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Mote via Jfw
If you're running Windows 10, yes.  My computer does that as well.


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Subject: shutting down.

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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RE: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

2015-08-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Can''t imagine that. 


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Cc: Bissett, Tom tom.biss...@bmo.com
Subject: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Hi,  I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback.  When I am on
gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws
starts speaking French but only when typing.  When I read back what I have
typed it is read in English.  I have language detection off.  It is only
when on the browser that this is happening.  If I alt tab away and back the
issue remains.  If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally but
begins again when I switch back to the browser.
The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
Tom Bisset

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shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Mark Furness via Jfw
When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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Re: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

2015-08-11 Thread Bill White via Jfw
Hi, Tom. Why not go into the Settings Center of JAWS while in your browser, 
find Language Detection, and turn it off. I know you said Language Detection 
is off, but possibly not in both applications.

Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Bissett, Tom tom.biss...@bmo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:43 PM
Subject: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH


Hi,  I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback.  When I am on 
gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws 
starts speaking French but only when typing.  When I read back what I have 
typed it is read in English.  I have language detection off.  It is only 
when on the browser that this is happening.  If I alt tab away and back 
the issue remains.  If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally 
but begins again when I switch back to the browser.

The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
Tom Bisset

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MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

2015-08-11 Thread Bissett, Tom via Jfw
Hi,  I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback.  When I am on 
gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws 
starts speaking French but only when typing.  When I read back what I have 
typed it is read in English.  I have language detection off.  It is only when 
on the browser that this is happening.  If I alt tab away and back the issue 
remains.  If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally but begins again 
when I switch back to the browser.
The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
Tom Bisset

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RE: shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Mine does that too and no musical sound coming or going. 

Best from,

Carolyn


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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com
Subject: shutting down.

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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stop the clickable

2015-08-11 Thread Mario via Jfw
I recall this issue being discussed but don't recall if a definite 
solution was given:
for future reference, what is a clickable item and how is it 
activated, because pressing enter or the space bar doesn't seam to do 
anything? and how to stop JAWS from announcing clickable when 
reviewing the contents of web pages in either using Firefox or Internet 
Explorer(or any other browser)?



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Re: Upgraded to Windows 10 And Have a Question

2015-08-11 Thread Joseph Lee via Jfw

Hi Jim,
They're buried in various places such as Settings/Privacy 
category (that's where you should start).

Cheers,
Joseph

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To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:41:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Upgraded to Windows 10 And Have a Question

Oh wow.  I wasn't aware of this settings thing.  Now that I have 
it, where can I go to customize my privacy settings?  I'd like to 
do that ASAP!

Jim


Sent from my iPhone 6!

On Aug 11, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Mark via Jfw 
jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:


Hello Everyone,

I decided to take the plunge and upgrade from Windows 8.1 to 
Windows 10

Enterprise.

I am delighted to say that all seems well, so far.  I had to use 
Narrator
during the installation because I began the upgrade process 
before reading
the Freedom Scientific Windows updating page.  I'm certain the 
process would
have gone much more smoothly if I had but, what's done is done.  
During the
upgrade process, I was careful to use the custom settings path, 
as opposed
to the express setup, to insure that Windows 10 Privacy settings 
were
adjusted to my comfort level.  Left unchallenged, Windows 10 
will attempt to
tap into virtually everything you do and share that info with 
Microsoft.


My question:

Is there a specific Jaws user email list or forum for those 
using Windows

10? Or is this still the best place to discuss Windows 10/Jaws.

Oh, one more thing, as yet, I have not installed any third-party 
apps on my
notebook aside from Office 2007, which was installed prior to 
the update to

Windows 10.

While I own both Office 2010 professional and Office 2013 
Professional, I
see no reason to update to either since 2007 Professional works 
just fine

for me.

I hope you are all having a great day.

Mark


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RE: How To Stop Windows 10's Prying Eyes

2015-08-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Speaking of privacy issues, Good Computer Guy told us Sunday that their
company already had six calls for service, where Edge was contaminated by
viruses. 


Best from,

Carolyn


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:06 PM
To: 'Jaws for Windows' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark facebookm...@candleshoreblog.com
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10's Prying Eyes

Hello Everyone,  

I strongly suggest that anyone who has already installed or is considering
installing Windows 10, read this article, the link to which may be found at
the bottom of the text.

Mark

How To Stop Windows 10's  Prying Eyes

Windows 10 is here, and Microsoft's latest operating system is designed for
a mobile-first, cloud-first future, as CEO Satya Nadella puts it. But that
future relies on big data - your data - and by default, Windows 10 can track
and share the websites you visit, the purchases you make, the places you go,
the words you type, the things you say and more.

You have the ability to control Windows 10's data collection, but it takes
some doing. The installation process lets you customize privacy settings at
the end or go with the defaults in express settings. We'd suggest taking
the extra two minutes to forgo the latter and make your own choices here, or
adjusting the options after installation, because Microsoft's default
privacy settings might not be as private as you'd like.

The first page of settings lists four options that you can toggle on or off,
while the second page lists five items. All of them are on by default.

Under Personalization, the first setting tailors your speech, typing and
inking input to the way you talk, type and write ... by sending contacts
and calendar details, along with other associated input data to Microsoft.
The next setting sends typing and inking data to Microsoft to improve the
recognition and suggestion platform.


Must Read
 Windows 10 may do the impossible: help Microsoft win back the hearts of PC
gamers Some people may be comfortable with this usage; after all,
third-party smartphone keyboards like SwiftKey improve their autocorrect
functionality by learning how you type. But for others, sharing contacts
and calendar details may be a bridge too far.

Next is a rather nebulous entry: Let apps use your advertising ID for
experiences across apps. What this sentence doesn't quite explain is that
Windows 10 generates a unique advertising ID for each user. If this option
is enabled, it allows app developers and ad networks to profile you using
that ID and serve you ads based on how you use your PC.

The final part of the first settings page concerns location. Your computer
may not have a GPS radio in it like your smartphone does, but if you're
connected to the internet, your location can be tracked through your IP
address. With this option enabled, you're allowing Windows and apps to
request your location, including your location history. That's useful for
location-based services like, say, telling a retailer's website where you
are so it can give you the address of the nearest store.

However, the location setting also lets Windows 10 send Microsoft and
trusted partners some location data to improve location services. That part
of the equation may give you pause, especially since you have no say in what
Microsoft's trusted partners might be. (ExtremeTech reports that the
Windows 8 installation process included a similar setting, but without the
sharing of your data with so-called trusted partners.)

Let's move to page two. The first toggle in the browser section enables
Microsoft's SmartScreen Filter, which protects you against malicious
content and downloads in Windows browsers - Microsoft Edge, which debuts in
Windows 10, and Internet Explorer - and Windows Store apps. That sounds
pretty good! Next is a setting for page prediction, which sends your
browsing data to Microsoft to improve reading, speed up browsing, and make
your overall experience better in Windows browsers. You may have a similar
feature enabled in your existing web browser, such as Google Chrome.

 
The next two options govern the way your PC connects to wireless networks,
as part of a new Windows 10 feature called Wi-Fi Sense. The first setting
lets you automatically connect to suggested open hotspots, while the
second does the same for networks shared by your contacts.

According to Microsoft's Wi-Fi Sense FAQ, the former setting relies on
Microsoft's crowdsourced database of open Wi-Fi hotspots. If enough people
get a good-quality connection from a hotspot, it'll be added to the
database.

The second setting is meant to eliminate the hassle of asking a friend for
their Wi-Fi password when you visit their place. If enabled, the setting
does two things: (1) allows you to select Wi-Fi networks to share with your
Outlook.com contacts, Skype contacts or Facebook friends, and (2) lets your
PC automatically connect to networks 

RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

2015-08-11 Thread Pablo Morales via Jfw
Well guys,
I have tried windows 10 and jaws 16 in 3 different computers. One on a old
computer from the Precambrian, the second a Dell i7, with 8GB ram, and the
third a Lenovo desktop with an i7 with 8 GB of ram also.
I have found several problems with jaws. Some times when I press insert f10,
to get  the list of windows opened, jaws reads information no updated, other
times jaws reads things that were on the screen before, like dialogs or
messages, but those dialogs or messages are already close when it happen.
Some times on the log in screen, jaws reads default window, and nothing
else, if I press insert tab, jaws reads again, default window, but I have no
way to know where is the Pc cursor. I have to press tab several times until
jaws catch the Pc cursor again. Sometimes alt tab doesn't work very well,
and I have repaired jaws in all these computers.
Conclusion, I uninstalled windows 10 in my all 3 computers, and I will not
try to install windows 10 again, until news releases of windows or jaws
appear.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Dave:

You have more patience than I.  If JAWS does not return within a minute or
so, I do a (you should excuse the expression) blind shutdown of JAWS, go to
the DESKTOP, where I have already placed the focus, and reopened JAWS.  Mind
you, if a good pair of eyes is ready/willing/able, not to mention actually
present, I am not shy about asking for help in case something is going on -
un related to JAWS.

However, when no eyes are around, it feels like the world has been shut
off; so, I know what you mean by waiting for nothing.  I usually try to find
something else to do.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video
Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.

Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that JAWS
16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in
my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting
there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

Very enlightening!  For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have proven
to be far-sighted after all.  I think that I may adopt your 3 most-recent
version strategy myself.  However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10.  So, for now, are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
offering?  Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be smart; but, why would you want to use previous versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully.  I'm sure that
there is a really good reason for it!  :)  :)

Jim H

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Re: shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Jim Hamilton via Jfw
It does that with Windows 8.1 as well.


Sent from Jim's iPhone


 On Aug 11, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com 
 wrote:
 
 Mine does that too and no musical sound coming or going. 
 
 Best from,
 
 Carolyn
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
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 Subject: shutting down.
 
 When I shut down my windows10 computer
 The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?
 
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RE: shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Debbie April Yuille via Jfw
Hi Mark

Where abouts would I go to turn off this fast user switching to make my
computer truly shut down?

Thanks
Debbie

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:26 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark facebookm...@candleshoreblog.com
Subject: RE: shutting down.

Hello,

The announcement does not occur when I shut down my Windows 10 computer.  

Please keep in mind that since Windows 8, unless one specifically disables
the Fast User Switching option, the computer does not shut down in the sense
that we have come to understand the term in prior versions of Windows.
Instead, the default shut down option in both Windows 8.x and 10 places the
computer in a kind of hibernation mode preserving certain settings.

In order to truly shut down the computer, in the classic meaning of the
phrase, one must disable the fast-user switching located in the power
options settings of the OS.  Once done, (1) Jaws will no longer announce
itself and (2) the computer will truly be shut down as it was in Windows 7
and earlier.

Mark

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Londa Peterson
Subject: RE: shutting down.

This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well. 

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: shutting down.

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

2015-08-11 Thread Mark via Jfw
Hello Pablo,

I'm curious, what method did you use to uninstall and/or roll-back Windows
10?  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 6:19 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Well guys,
I have tried windows 10 and jaws 16 in 3 different computers. One on a old
computer from the Precambrian, the second a Dell i7, with 8GB ram, and the
third a Lenovo desktop with an i7 with 8 GB of ram also.
I have found several problems with jaws. Some times when I press insert f10,
to get  the list of windows opened, jaws reads information no updated, other
times jaws reads things that were on the screen before, like dialogs or
messages, but those dialogs or messages are already close when it happen.
Some times on the log in screen, jaws reads default window, and nothing
else, if I press insert tab, jaws reads again, default window, but I have no
way to know where is the Pc cursor. I have to press tab several times until
jaws catch the Pc cursor again. Sometimes alt tab doesn't work very well,
and I have repaired jaws in all these computers.
Conclusion, I uninstalled windows 10 in my all 3 computers, and I will not
try to install windows 10 again, until news releases of windows or jaws
appear.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Dave:

You have more patience than I.  If JAWS does not return within a minute or
so, I do a (you should excuse the expression) blind shutdown of JAWS, go to
the DESKTOP, where I have already placed the focus, and reopened JAWS.  Mind
you, if a good pair of eyes is ready/willing/able, not to mention actually
present, I am not shy about asking for help in case something is going on -
un related to JAWS.

However, when no eyes are around, it feels like the world has been shut
off; so, I know what you mean by waiting for nothing.  I usually try to find
something else to do.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video
Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.

Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that JAWS
16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in
my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting
there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jim Hamilton jim.hamil...@rogers.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

Very enlightening!  For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have proven
to be far-sighted after all.  I think that I may adopt your 3 most-recent
version strategy myself.  However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10.  So, for now, are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
offering?  Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Dave Carlson dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

- Original Message -
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 

RE: shutting down.....

2015-08-11 Thread Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Perfectly normal! I think this happens because for a moment, the log on
screne may pop up, causing JAWS to restart.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Londa Peterson lpeter...@vrocp.org
Subject: RE: shutting down.

This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: shutting down.

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

2015-08-11 Thread Mark via Jfw
You are quite Welcome, Carolyn.

If I learn of any further hidden privacy settings, I'll be sure to pass
them along.

Mark


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:45 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Mark, this information is brailled and in my notebook, so that I can follow
your instructions to the T. Thanks.

Best from,

Carolyn


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:19 PM
To: 'Jaws for Windows' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark facebookm...@candleshoreblog.com
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO) 

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service. 

1.
Click the Windows 10 Start Button and select Settings 
 
2.
Select Update  security from the Settings menu. 
 
3.
Click Advanced options 
 
4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered 
 
5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off 
 
6.
All done!


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Re: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

2015-08-11 Thread Brad Martin via Jfw
Ouch. This is going to burn a lot of people who don't realize (1) they 
have a metered or capped connection and (2) other people are getting 
files from it. I have Comcast, and I have a 300 GB limit. I've never 
even gotten to 40 GB, so I wouldn't think anything of it until all these 
people start uploading files from me without my knowledge? Sure you can 
turn it off or mark your connection as metered, but most people aren't 
going to know that! Here's a more detailed explanation of what Mark's 
talking about. I don't like all this opted in stuff. You should have 
to opt in if you want it, not opt out if you don't. But that would 
require Microsoft to take your best interest into account.


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-update-delivery-optimization-faq

Brad

On 8/11/2015 4:18 PM, Mark via Jfw wrote:

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO)

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service.

1.
Click the Windows 10 Start Button and select Settings
  
2.

Select Update  security from the Settings menu.
  
3.

Click Advanced options
  
4.

Click Choose how updates are delivered
  
5.

Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off
  
6.

All done!


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