date:20150901

With Windows 10, is "Cortanna" automatically part of the IOS?

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marianne
Denning via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Marianne Denning 
Subject: Re: Surface Pro

As I understand, it runs Windows 10.

On 9/1/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw  wrote:
> On what Windows version will the Surface Pro operate?  Could it operate
> with
> "Windows 9", as with the new Windows mobile phones?  Or, could it
> accommodate the full version of Windows 10?
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo
Morales
> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:26 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Pablo Morales 
> Subject: RE: Surface Pro
>
> Yes, on a surface pro jaws works fine.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
> via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:54 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Les Kriegler
> Subject: RE: Surface Pro
>
> I'm running a Surface Pro.  All Jaws functions that I use are working as
> expected.  Windows crashes on occasion, but the fact that Jaws 16
re-starts
> is a major step forward when this occurs.  I have had to do a few Jaws
> repairs and had some other issues with Office 365, but overall, I'm very
> pleased with the Surface.  I find that a Bluetooth keyboard is preferable
> over using the surface's keyboard cover.  Howevewr, when I need to charge
> the keyboard, the cover is better than not having a keyboard to use.
>
> Les
>
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> Denning via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:26 PM
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> Cc: Marianne Denning 
> Subject: Surface Pro
>
> Is anyone running JAWS using a Surface Pro?  If so, do all JAWS
> functions work well?  What is your overall impression?
>
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RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Library entries? You can use them when creating dictionary entries for a root 
word and various derivatives.  Unlike Dos search terms, they have to come at 
the end, though.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton via 
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Can one use a "wildcard, usually a "*" when editing JAWS Library entries?

This question was brought to mind by the below message on another topic.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS 
DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good 
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the 
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my 
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers, 
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote 
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to 
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws 
options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings center / 
configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the 
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is 
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells 
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want 
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the " 
all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through.  
They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work backwards than 
what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever 
you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are the 
practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or two 
things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different levels 
of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check will bounce!  
LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for the 
different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If it 
says none.  That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow

Re: Firefox 40 question

I seem to be having luck with ctrl+l in Fire Fox 40.  I do notice that 
it has autofill turned on.  Sometimes Jaws has trouble reading what's 
added when I start typing.


But, now it seems to be working just fine.  I know. I'll forget about 
this thread and the problem will come up later.


I did make those changes to the Fire Fox configuration file that were 
suggested for screen reader users some time ago.  Could that make a 
difference?


Just wondering. Are you pressing ctrl+l the second time while you are 
still in the edit box, or after the page you want loads.


Sometimes pressing tab moves out of the Search or enter address edit combo

 box to a list of suggestions.  Other times it moves to the search Bing 
or what ever your prefered search engine is.  Somewhat confusing.  Needs 
a manual for screen reader users.


Bob
On 8/31/2015 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw wrote:

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for Windows
support list.' 
Cc: Tom Behler 
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.

  


Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able to
open The web site from that point.

  


However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
Firefox 40.

  


Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?

  


I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.

  


I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.

  


Thank you.

  


Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

  


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Re: newest emails on top

2015-09-01 Thread Stan Bobbitt via Jfw

Hi Jim, control spacebar should deselect.

Stan B
-Original Message- 
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Is there not a way in JAWS to "deselect" a specific item in a list?  Once
you find this in Keyboard Manager", you could "deselect" the item/e-mail you
want to keep, and press "delete" to get rid of every item/e-mail, except the
1 you do not want to keep.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:12 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Yes, I completely slipped that factoid.
Then we can also select noncontiguous emails with CTRL spacebar and only
delete what I would like right?
You seem like a smart fella and the conversation view I like as I can
quickly delete emails that I have no interest in, even though CTRL A works,
but we are back to if there is an email in that conversation I'd like to
keep.
Back on schedule, I will research more to see how to make it work the way
I'd like.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Bill White 
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Actually, it wouldn't take any time at all to delete all the emails. All you
must do is to go to the list of emails in the particular folder, press
CONTROL plus the letter A to select all the emails, then press delete, and
they will all be gone, no matter whether you are in conversation thread mode
or not.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
- Original Message -
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Kimsan" 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

I know where it is at. Originally it was on ascending.
I'm not thinking its you and not "explaining" well, instead I think
there  is  more to it.  I'm thinking the ascending/descending not
working applies to  the emails in this case in the conversation view.
I wonder if it will  work  if I removed the conversation view, but that
would take 40 days and 40  nights to delete all the emails I have
coming in lol.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Did you press Alt V, V, S and then Tab to Sort. I had a problem about
arrowing and tabbing, but arrowing got me to Sort, I believe, then
Tabbing got me to the Option, where Ascending and Descending were. On
mine, Descending was checked; I checked Ascending. Right now I am not
good enough in Outlook 2013 to give the clearest instructions, but it
is annoying, if you want your messages with the oldest first and are
getting them with the newest first. I hope you can get it done this
time.

Best from,

Carolyn

P.S. Kimsan, I tried while in an e-mail, but that command in a message
runs Spell Check like F 7. I thought I'd check it before sending. I
did find out that that first V puts you on the upper Ribbon, so when
you get to the S, Tab to Assending and Descending.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Didn't work, emails are not coming on top of the thread...

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Right, huh? It's Alt V V s - sorry.

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Huh? Insert V plus V plus S?

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Carolyn Arnold

RE: office 365

One vital step that I failed to mention is that you must arrow through
contact names, not first-letter navigate, or it will give you only the names
with that letter. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: office 365

I think Outlook 2013 is a good system. I just have a lot to learn with the
ribbon concept and all, coming from Outlook  Express. I think Outlook is
superior to Outlook Express. I have had it for three weeks and realize that
I had OE for 11 years and did not learn it over night. 

You can hit Control Y and go to various boxes. Control 3 takes you directly
to Contacts; Control 1 or Control Shift I will take you back to Inbox. Also
you can hit Control Y then I to go back to it. One thing that I liked better
about OE is that it might say, 50 messages, 44 unread. With this, you just
get the unread, and you can't hit Control U to get to them. You have to
arrow to them. Joseph that helped me got it fixed where that the unread
message does not go away when I arrow through lists to get to personal
messages. It has Favorites. That is, that you Control Tab, and there you
have a list of your boxes, Calendar, Journal, Notes, etc. I have tried to
get a book on it, but the library has none. I understand there is one for
$80, which I would not be purchasing at this point, since I just bought
computer, JAWS upgrades then had to replace hearing aids. 

A good working set up with it is the contacts. When writing an e-mail, when
you are in the address fields, To, cc, or bcc, you press Alt Period, and the
contact list appears like it does for a sighted person. You must arrow
through names, and when you see the name you want, hit enter. Go through the
list until you have them, then press enter twice. 

As far as I know, with attachments, you get on the document you want to
attach and press Control C to copy it. You go back to Outlook, enter your
contact(s), go to Subject, and then paste the copy in the body. That is way
different than I have had, where I could pull up a directory, go to the item
I wanted to attach and press Enter. 

I don't know how to work in the extra features, but have listed some
appointments in Calendar. 

Joseph the Free Tech guy from another list has spent a lot of time getting
me to the point where I am. 

There is one section called notes. It could work for me, when I'm on the
phone taking information. Then I could work on it and either file it else
where or use it in an e-mail, if I want. That is a good place to store
shipping information, etc. 

I have set up a box though called All mine, where I park e-mails like that
with tracking number and that sort of information. 

I set up a box called Keepers, where I have stored tutorial information
regarding Outlook and Office 2013. 

I set up a box for one of my lists, but must have missed a step, because
nothing was coming to my Inbox and everything going there, so I had to move
everything out of that one and just delete the box. To do that, you Control
Tab to Favorites and arrow to the box and hit Delete. 

I hope this rambling gives you a tiny glimpse of Outlook. Me telling you
about is about like me describing how the new car models look this year. 

Best from,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013.  I can't say I've been a heavy user
lately, but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm
still running under 7, but using the very latest JAWS maintenance release.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting
the thing. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: office 365

No matter what I do, nothing is working.
I'll call tech tomorrow, as it's the first day back for the school.

When I sign in and the steps state to click settings, don't remember off
hand the rest, but one thing is when I click the light version, the page
freezes.
>From memory, I log in, I don't find a settings link, or anything when using

JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Can one use a "wildcard, usually a "*" when editing JAWS Library entries?

This question was brought to mind by the below message on another topic.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none.  That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter.  Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are

RE: office 365

2015-09-01 Thread Adrian Spratt via Jfw

You can create an "unread" folder for unread mail. This collects unread email 
from all folders where you direct email. I haven't done it in a while, but 
you'll find instructions via Google. 

Oh, I'm using Outlook 2010, but I'd be surprised if this very useful feature 
were omitted from 2013.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS 
DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: office 365

That was most interesting, and we may get it here before I hang it up.  I was 
thinking you were having trouble with Office in general; I don't use Outlook in 
my home installation.  In fact, until I quit procrastinating, I don't have much 
of an e-mail setup right now.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I think Outlook 2013 is a good system. I just have a lot to learn with the 
ribbon concept and all, coming from Outlook  Express. I think Outlook is 
superior to Outlook Express. I have had it for three weeks and realize that I 
had OE for 11 years and did not learn it over night. 

You can hit Control Y and go to various boxes. Control 3 takes you directly to 
Contacts; Control 1 or Control Shift I will take you back to Inbox. Also you 
can hit Control Y then I to go back to it. One thing that I liked better about 
OE is that it might say, 50 messages, 44 unread. With this, you just get the 
unread, and you can't hit Control U to get to them. You have to arrow to them. 
Joseph that helped me got it fixed where that the unread message does not go 
away when I arrow through lists to get to personal messages. It has Favorites. 
That is, that you Control Tab, and there you have a list of your boxes, 
Calendar, Journal, Notes, etc. I have tried to get a book on it, but the 
library has none. I understand there is one for $80, which I would not be 
purchasing at this point, since I just bought computer, JAWS upgrades then had 
to replace hearing aids. 

A good working set up with it is the contacts. When writing an e-mail, when you 
are in the address fields, To, cc, or bcc, you press Alt Period, and the 
contact list appears like it does for a sighted person. You must arrow through 
names, and when you see the name you want, hit enter. Go through the list until 
you have them, then press enter twice. 

As far as I know, with attachments, you get on the document you want to attach 
and press Control C to copy it. You go back to Outlook, enter your contact(s), 
go to Subject, and then paste the copy in the body. That is way different than 
I have had, where I could pull up a directory, go to the item I wanted to 
attach and press Enter. 

I don't know how to work in the extra features, but have listed some 
appointments in Calendar. 

Joseph the Free Tech guy from another list has spent a lot of time getting me 
to the point where I am. 

There is one section called notes. It could work for me, when I'm on the phone 
taking information. Then I could work on it and either file it else where or 
use it in an e-mail, if I want. That is a good place to store shipping 
information, etc. 

I have set up a box though called All mine, where I park e-mails like that with 
tracking number and that sort of information. 

I set up a box called Keepers, where I have stored tutorial information 
regarding Outlook and Office 2013. 

I set up a box for one of my lists, but must have missed a step, because 
nothing was coming to my Inbox and everything going there, so I had to move 
everything out of that one and just delete the box. To do that, you Control Tab 
to Favorites and arrow to the box and hit Delete. 

I hope this rambling gives you a tiny glimpse of Outlook. Me telling you about 
is about like me describing how the new car models look this year. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS 
DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013.  I can't say I've been a heavy user lately, 
but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm still running 
under 7, but using the very latest JAWS maintenance release.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called 
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting the 
thing. 

Best

RE: Firefox 40 question

2015-09-01 Thread Gennie Eachus via Jfw

That doesn't work either. It works one time, but if you want to change sites
by typing alt-d again, it won't take the new address. Also, I keep getting
crash reports with Firefox.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 11:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Michael Mote 
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

I would try pressing Alt D instead of Control L.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:47 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw 
wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone.
> 
> 
> 
> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I 
> can paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm 
> then able to open The web site from that point.
> 
> 
> 
> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with 
> Firefox 40.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
> 
> 
> 
> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet 
> Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent 
> change in Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
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RE: office 365, and "Microsoft Disability line" ...

How does one contact the:  " Microsoft Disability line"?  I did not know
that such a thing existed!  If this is intended for what it sounds like, it
could be a very good resource to keep handy!

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mcginnis,
Barbara via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mcginnis, Barbara 
Subject: RE: office 365

Why use Outlook Light?  I use Office 2013/Office 365 at work and I am given
a choice of public or shared computer, private computer, or Outlook Light.
I always use private computer because no one using this computer but me.

-Original Message-
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013.  I can't say I've been a heavy user
lately, but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm
still running under 7, but using the very latest JAWS maintenance release.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting
the thing.

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: office 365

No matter what I do, nothing is working.
I'll call tech tomorrow, as it's the first day back for the school.

When I sign in and the steps state to click settings, don't remember off
hand the rest, but one thing is when I click the light version, the page
freezes.
>From memory, I log in, I don't find a settings link, or anything when using
the jaws curser, but there is this button menu to press for settings an aps.
I click that, I tab over to general, it expands, then I see the light
version and press enter on it. Then it freezes.
This is driving me bonkers lol. No check boxes, or nothing of the sort.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Niall
Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Niall Gallagher 
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,


Follow the steps as listed, but login using the below link first.


www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Niall Gallagher  wrote:

Hi,

I clicked on the link in my previous email, and it brought me to a generic
Outlook login.
I inserted my student username and password, and I was logged into the lite
version of the email interface.

If your account is similar to mine, which I think it is, you should be able
to follow the steps in the below link to activate the more accessible view

http://tinyurl.com/qzvs2y7

Due to the differences in our time zones, it is night time here in Ireland.
So I probably won't see your reply for 9 or 10 hours, but let me know how it
goes.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Kimsan via Jfw  wrote:

I logged in, and it's still the same.  Lol, I just realized I can navigate
by buttons to go from email to email, instead of pressing h.

Pressed x or A nothing was found. Since I have this email open, let me open
up one email and see if it makes me light up a cigarette, just a second...
Ok, I pressed enter on the email, it made the formsmode sound and I couldn't
down arrow, nothing.  I can't find the body of the email to read about the
update to the strike lol.
I'm going to go smoke now...

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com
] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Niall Gallagher 
Subject: Re: office 365

Put a period in place of the second slash, and you should be brought to a
login page.

www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:21 PM, Kimsan via Jfw  wrote:

So, I could type, www.outlook.com/staffemail/psd1.org?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com

] On

RE: newest emails on top

That's it!  Now, whoever was having that problem - too long agao to remember
clearly - can move forward on removing all but 1 message from that
particular folder!

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Stan Bobbitt 
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Hi Jim, control spacebar should deselect.

Stan B
-Original Message-
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Is there not a way in JAWS to "deselect" a specific item in a list?  Once
you find this in Keyboard Manager", you could "deselect" the item/e-mail you
want to keep, and press "delete" to get rid of every item/e-mail, except the
1 you do not want to keep.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:12 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Yes, I completely slipped that factoid.
Then we can also select noncontiguous emails with CTRL spacebar and only
delete what I would like right?
You seem like a smart fella and the conversation view I like as I can
quickly delete emails that I have no interest in, even though CTRL A works,
but we are back to if there is an email in that conversation I'd like to
keep.
Back on schedule, I will research more to see how to make it work the way
I'd like.


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Bill White 
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Actually, it wouldn't take any time at all to delete all the emails. All you
must do is to go to the list of emails in the particular folder, press
CONTROL plus the letter A to select all the emails, then press delete, and
they will all be gone, no matter whether you are in conversation thread mode
or not.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
- Original Message -
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Kimsan" 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top


>I know where it is at. Originally it was on ascending.
> I'm not thinking its you and not "explaining" well, instead I think
>there  is  more to it.  I'm thinking the ascending/descending not
>working applies to  the emails in this case in the conversation view.
>I wonder if it will  work  if I removed the conversation view, but that
>would take 40 days and 40  nights to delete all the emails I have
>coming in lol.
>
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Arnold via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:24 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Subject: RE: newest emails on top
>
> Did you press Alt V, V, S and then Tab to Sort. I had a problem about
> arrowing and tabbing, but arrowing got me to Sort, I believe, then
> Tabbing got me to the Option, where Ascending and Descending were. On
> mine, Descending was checked; I checked Ascending. Right now I am not
> good enough in Outlook 2013 to give the clearest instructions, but it
> is annoying, if you want your messages with the oldest first and are
> getting them with the newest first. I hope you can get it done this
> time.
>
> Best from,
>
> Carolyn
>
> P.S. Kimsan, I tried while in an e-mail, but that command in a message
> runs Spell Check like F 7. I thought I'd check it before sending. I
> did find out that that first V puts you on the upper Ribbon, so when
> you get to the S, Tab to Assending and Descending.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
> via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:13 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Kimsan 
> Subject: RE: newest emails on top
>
> Didn't work, emails are not coming on top of the thread...
>
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Arnold via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:57 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Subject: RE: newest emails on top
>
> Right, huh? It's Alt V V s - sorry.
>
> Best from,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -Original

Re: office 365, and "Microsoft Disability line" ...

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RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

2015-09-01 Thread Allen Childs via Jfw

Also using JAWS 16 with Windows 10, and it works really well.

Allen

I use to have a handle on life, but it broke off!

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Londa Peterson 
Subject: RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

JAWS 16 is working fairly well with Windows 10 on my laptop. It's certainly
much more than minimal. If JAWS 16 latest build isn't working well for you,
you need to uninstall and reinstall it. It will work much better after that.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:30 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Hello to new Windows 10 users,

I just upgraded my 5 year old laptop to Windows 10. It had Windows 7 and 
it had a WiFi connection so I didn't need to figure out how to make a 
net connection.

I chose to upgrade preserving all the existing files and applications. 
That part worked.

Now some notes to keep in mind.

The current version of JAWS 16 works minimally. The latest version of 
NVDA 2015.3 works much better.

To the person asking the question. How did you get JAWS into your new 
laptop? Install NVDA 2015.3 to get more use out of Windows 10 until JAWS 
16 and 17 come out.

In Windows 10, the Windows key + i will bring up the setting list. But 
JAWS might not help.

I am guessing, the sheveron button (system tray) might give a connection 
path. Press the Windows-logo key and then close the start menu with ESCAPE.

Then tab to the sheveron button and then arrow down or right. There 
might be a network item to select.

Opening the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key will have the 
edit field. JAWS 16  will not announce this. NVDA does and with NVDA you 
can arrow down through a list. JAWS 16 cannot do this.

Maybe other Windows 10 users will have more advice.

Peter T.

On 2015-08-31 10:12 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings for the
> network. in other words, I can not get on the net.
>
> Please help!
>
> oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I need
to
> know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know about
> them.
>
> Thanks!
>
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RE: Firefox 40 question

2015-09-01 Thread Tom Behler via Jfw

Mike:

I'll do this, especially if I continue to have problems getting control L to
work.

I really like Firefox, but do find it to be flaky at times with Jaws.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

I would try pressing Alt D instead of Control L.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:47 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw 
wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone.
> 
> 
> 
> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I 
> can paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm 
> then able to open The web site from that point.
> 
> 
> 
> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with 
> Firefox 40.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
> 
> 
> 
> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet 
> Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent 
> change in Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: adblock was: Firefox 40 question

2015-09-01 Thread Brad Martin via Jfw


I got Adblock from http://www.getadblock.com

Hint: I found I had to save the file, then use the "install add-on from 
file" option in the add-ons manager, because I couldn't figure out how 
to work the little popup window that opened when I tried to download the 
add-on.


Brad

On 9/1/2015 4:16 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
Hi Brad. I searched Fire Fox for adblock but did not find one just 
called adblock. Lots of pluses and youtube and forks. What about this 
one?

AdBlock Lite
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-lite-firefox/?src=api 



Bob
On 8/31/2015 7:40 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:

Tom and Gennie,

Control L is working fine for me with Firefox 40.0.3. I have had a 
couple of occasions where it didn't work for some reason, but they're 
few and far between. To Gennie's point about Firefox crashing, I 
discovered that the ads were most of the problem. I installed the 
Adblock add-on for Firefox, and most of my crashes went away. 
Occasionally a video will cause Firefox to crash even still, but it's 
way better than it was without Adblock. (Not to be confused with 
Adblock+ which I have not tried.)


Tom, I often enter a URL (or paste one) into the Windows Run box. So 
press Windows key and the letter r, then type or paste in the URL. If 
Firefox is not your default browser, the process is a little 
different. Press Windows key and the letter r, then type

firefox url
for instance
firefox www.google.com

There's your work around if you need it.


Brad



On 8/31/2015 8:08 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:

Jenny:

I can't even get it to work with one address, let alone multiple 
addresses.


Would be interested in any fixes people come up with.

For now, reluctantly, it's back to Internet Explorer.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gennie 
Eachus

via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: RE: Firefox 40 question

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing 
and has

to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom 
Behler via

Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list <jaws-users-l...@jaws-users.com>; 'The Jaws for 
Windows

support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombeh...@gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.


Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter. I'm then 
able to

open The web site from that point.


However, I'm finding that the control L command no longer works with
Firefox 40.


Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?


I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent 
change in

Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.


I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.


Thank you.


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

I don't know what Microsoft David is. I could search for it. 

I did go to the net and found that there was something about downloading
Microsoft David Voice. 

I had a whole lot going on this evening, so just got back to this. 

Best from,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Aidan 
Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Carolyn that is great. Does anyone know if Microsoft david is present on
windows10? Are there any new voices under the sapi interface under text to
speech in control panel?

On 01/09/2015, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw  wrote:
> Working finr on Desktop Windows 10. If Carolyn worked as well as JAWS 
> does, well, I probably wouldn't be on tech lists other than to give help.
>
> Best from,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa 
> Peterson via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:01 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Londa Peterson 
> Subject: RE: using jaws16 with windows10?
>
> JAWS 16 is working fairly well with Windows 10 on my laptop. It's 
> certainly much more than minimal. If JAWS 16 latest build isn't 
> working well for you, you need to uninstall and reinstall it. It will 
> work much better after that.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter 
> Tesar via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:30 AM
> To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> Cc: Peter Tesar
> Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?
>
> Hello to new Windows 10 users,
>
> I just upgraded my 5 year old laptop to Windows 10. It had Windows 7 
> and it had a WiFi connection so I didn't need to figure out how to 
> make a net connection.
>
> I chose to upgrade preserving all the existing files and applications.
> That part worked.
>
> Now some notes to keep in mind.
>
> The current version of JAWS 16 works minimally. The latest version of 
> NVDA
> 2015.3 works much better.
>
> To the person asking the question. How did you get JAWS into your new 
> laptop? Install NVDA 2015.3 to get more use out of Windows 10 until 
> JAWS
> 16 and 17 come out.
>
> In Windows 10, the Windows key + i will bring up the setting list. But 
> JAWS might not help.
>
> I am guessing, the sheveron button (system tray) might give a 
> connection path. Press the Windows-logo key and then close the start menu
with ESCAPE.
>
> Then tab to the sheveron button and then arrow down or right. There 
> might be a network item to select.
>
> Opening the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key will have the 
> edit field. JAWS 16  will not announce this. NVDA does and with NVDA 
> you can arrow down through a list. JAWS 16 cannot do this.
>
> Maybe other Windows 10 users will have more advice.
>
> Peter T.
>
> On 2015-08-31 10:12 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
>> Hello Listers,
>>
>> I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings for 
>> the network. in other words, I can not get on the net.
>>
>> Please help!
>>
>> oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I 
>> need
> to
>> know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know 
>> about them.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

2015-09-01 Thread Londa Peterson via Jfw

Press Windows key with i for settings. Then right arrow to network
Internet. Tab until you find the network you want to connect to and press
enter. Follow the prompts from there. 

-Original Message-
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Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:13 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Carliss
Subject: using jaws16 with windows10?

Hello Listers,

I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings for the
network. in other words, I can not get on the net.

Please help!

oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I need to
know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know about
them.

Thanks!

Carliss

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RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Thanks.  That will come in handy.

...  and, you would have to include the "*" in the "replacement word" box,
as well as in the "actual word" box.  Correct?

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Library entries? You can use them when creating dictionary entries for a
root word and various derivatives.  Unlike Dos search terms, they have to
come at the end, though.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Can one use a "wildcard, usually a "*" when editing JAWS Library entries?

This question was brought to mind by the below message on another topic.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and

Re: Firefox 40 question

Hi Gerald,

I didn’t know that you could have multiple versions of Firefox installed. Where 
would I find the version 35? I think if I can find an earlier version, I’ll 
simply uninstall version 40.

Cheers,

Russell
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to crash 
> or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up with Firefox 
> 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35, which seems to be 
> more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike IE, you can have 
> multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.
> 
> Gerald
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
> 
> I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another 
> without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also 
> takes a very long time to load some web pages.
> 
> Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Russell
>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
>> to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
>> control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
>> Jfw
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
>> To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for Windows
>> support list.' 
>> Cc: Tom Behler 
>> Subject: Firefox 40 question
>> 
>> Hello, everyone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
>> paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able to
>> open The web site from that point.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
>> Firefox 40.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
>> Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
>> Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: Firefox 40 question

Thanks, I’ll try this tomorrow at work.

Cheers,

Russell
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:17 PM, majno via Jfw  wrote:
> 
> go to firefox option and disable the "load tab check.
> 
> El 31/08/2015 a las 21:12, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw escribió:
>> I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another 
>> without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also 
>> takes a very long time to load some web pages.
>> 
>> Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Russell
>>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
>>> to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
>>> control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
>>> Jfw
>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
>>> To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for Windows
>>> support list.' 
>>> Cc: Tom Behler 
>>> Subject: Firefox 40 question
>>> 
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
>>> paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able to
>>> open The web site from that point.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
>>> Firefox 40.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
>>> Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
>>> Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>>> 
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Re: Fwd: data graphing ideas?

Thanks Marianne. I'm glad to hear there are actually tools that work.  
I'm checking out Dr. Robinson's videos now.


Bob.

On 8/26/2015 2:10 PM, Marianne Denning via Jfw wrote:

I asked my technology trainer who does this all of the time.  Her name
is Dr. Denise Robinson and here are some videos that show that it can
be done.  She may have some lessons you can buy that walks you through
the steps.

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From: "Dr. Denise M Robinson" 
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:01:48 -0400
Subject: Re: data graphing ideas?
To: Marianne Denning 

send proof
here are videos to go to--my kids do it all the time--tons more but here
are a few
How to make a curved line in a graph using Excel and talking software


Excel-plotting a line plot graph-copy to Word for Math


Create a scatter graph with trend line using talking software/key commands


Blind students do Math- inequalities with Excel and answer problems in Word


Just in case they want to do it with PPT also
Blind student completes a sophisticated Excel then inserts into PowerPoint


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Marianne Denning 
wrote:


I thought you might know the answer to this question.  If you reply to
me I can post your answer.  I think it would be possible.

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From: Monique Lalonde via Jfw 
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 15:31:28 +
Subject: RE: data graphing ideas?
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: Monique Lalonde 

Hi All,

If JAWS can read graph information in Excel, does anyone know how
accessible it would be to create a graph in Excel and copy it into a
Word document? I may need to do this for an Economics class.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David G.
Carlson Via iPhone via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: David G. Carlson Via iPhone
Subject: Re: data graphing ideas?

Yes it does exist.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone using the handwriting feature.

On Aug 26, 2015, at 06:39, Richard B. McDonald via Jfw
 wrote:

Unless I am mistaken, I think somewhere I read that JAWS has a feature that
will describe a graph in Excel.  I cannot remember where I read that, but I
suspect it was in the "help" areas for JAWS in Excel.  Has anyone else ever
run across this?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: Re: data graphing ideas?

I think you're on the right track.
the Orion TI-84 Plus Talking Graphing Calculator employs:
. Graph functions and trace points made accessible with speech and audible
tone.
. Listen to entire graph, including special sounds for negative regions and
axis crossing points.

if you want to check it out for more ideas:

https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Orion%20TI-84%20Plus%
20Talking%20Graphing%20Calculator_1-07340-00P_10001_11051

since you're an experienced programmer, you're more enabled to "make it
so".
but remember, newbie wanna be scriptwriters need to start from the bottom
of
the barrel... have you ever considered to join the JAWS scripting ml?  not
to shew you away from this ml, but you can pose more technical questions
about scripting snafoos to get assistance from other experienced
sdcripters.


On 8/20/2015 11:44 AM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
I'll start by saying I don't know of any off-the-shelf graphing
solutions for visually impaired users. So everything that follows is sort

of "what if"

hypothetical stuff, just thinking out loud.

Presenting data to blind and visually impaired users seems like a
mostly uninvestigated area, wide open for new research. There is an
annual academic conference called IEEE Vis: http://ieeevis.org/.
Historically, their focus is to present new research in different ways
to visualize data. As far as I know, they have never bitten off the
challenge of presenting data in non-visual ways. But if you have any
pull in the academic community, perhaps you could get some grad
students to research ways to display data non-visually, with the
end-goal of getting their research published through this conference.

Just thinking off the top of my head, I could imagine a bar chart with
items left-to-right (along the x axis) and values along the y axis. We
could use JAWS to read the value for each item, but instead of just
reading numbers, modulate the JAWS speech pitch in accordance with the
value: larger values would be read with a higher pitch, smaller

No longer can I search on Netflix

2015-09-01 Thread Peter Tesar via Jfw


Hello,

Can anyone do a title search on Netflix?

A year ago the Canadian Netflixsite was improved. I used to use the 
search edit field. Now there is asearch icon which JAWS cannot find.


Does the American Netflix site have the same issue?

Peter T.
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Re: Need Moderator assistance please.

2015-09-01 Thread O.Addison Gethers via Jfw

I was having the same problem too !! I did wrote to the moderator and have not 
heard anything from the moderator at all!!
Addison 

O. Addison Gethers

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Facebook 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Ford via Jfw 
  To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
  Cc: Tim Ford 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:44 PM
  Subject: Need Moderator assistance please.


  I apologize for writing the entire list.  I tried but could never find an 
email address for the list moderator.  I need assistance.  Would one of the 
moderators please contact me off list?  I apologize in advance for this, but I 
just cannot figure out the list issue I am having; I do not see my own emails 
posted to the list, although I believe they are going through.
  
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Re: Firefox 40 question

Thanks for confirming this behaviour Brad! I am also finding that the focus is 
jumping not only from tab to tab, but also to other programs I have open. Quite 
annoying.

Cheers,

Russell
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw  
> wrote:
> 
> I had that problem for a long time on some websites, but it hasn't happened 
> to me in months! When I used to have that problem, it was generally when I 
> had a tab open (but I wasn't on that tab), and that tab kept refreshing 
> itself. When it refreshed, Firefox would start to read it and JAWS would act 
> like I was on that tab, but in fact, I wasn't and interacting with the screen 
> I thought was in front of me didn't work. But again, I can't remember the 
> last time I had that problem.
> 
> Oddly, tonight my Firefox started crashing, and I realized my Adblock add-on 
> had been disabled.
> 
> Brad
> 
> On 8/31/2015 9:12 PM, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw wrote:
>> I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another 
>> without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also 
>> takes a very long time to load some web pages.
>> 
>> Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Russell
>>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
>>> to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
>>> control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
>>> Jfw
>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
>>> To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for Windows
>>> support list.' 
>>> Cc: Tom Behler 
>>> Subject: Firefox 40 question
>>> 
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
>>> paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able to
>>> open The web site from that point.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
>>> Firefox 40.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
>>> Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
>>> Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>>> 
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Re: Firefox 40 question

Hi,

Firefox was working quite well for me till the update to version 40.0.3.

Thanks,

Russell
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Jane Withers via Jfw  
> wrote:
> 
> I attempted to use Firefox a year or so ago and had difficulty. Was told by 
> Freedom Scientific that it didi not work well with JAWS.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell 
> Solowoniuk via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:12 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
> 
> I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another 
> without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also 
> takes a very long time to load some web pages.
> 
> Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Russell
>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and has
>> to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
>> control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
>> Jfw
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
>> To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for Windows
>> support list.' 
>> Cc: Tom Behler 
>> Subject: Firefox 40 question
>> 
>> Hello, everyone.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
>> paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able to
>> open The web site from that point.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
>> Firefox 40.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
>> Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
>> Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>> 
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Re: JAWS and Punctuation

2015-09-01 Thread Aidan via Jfw

You write. That is why you should rather use the customize
punctioation feature. You can either bypass some cymbals or change the
way they are spoken.

On 01/09/2015, Kimsan via Jfw  wrote:
> For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to
> text
> and not punctuation, correct?
>
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Cc: Adrian Spratt 
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Arnold
> via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Carolyn Arnold
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for
> character, word, character and word or none.
>
> Best from,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
> (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
> example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
> dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my
> Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse
> numbers,
> but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote
> apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come
> to
> think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
> Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Mike B.
> Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> Howdy All,
>
> This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
> Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
> center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.
>
> When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls
> the
> amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is
> most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.
>
> When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
> Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
> Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose
> the
> " all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
> through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
> backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
> for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
> whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
> radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
>
> Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
> punctuation setting options.
>
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
>
> I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
> the practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or
> two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
> Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Mike B.
> Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> Yo Bro,
>
> Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
> levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
> will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kimsan via Jfw
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Kimsan
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
>
> Holy crap bro!
> That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.
>
> Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
> the different levels?
> Thanks again, checks in the mail.
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original

RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Specifically, it applies to what is "echoed"/spoken when you enter text, not
to reading text in general.  And yes, it does not apply to punctuation.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to text
and not punctuation, correct?

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for
character, word, character and word or none.

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw

RE: Need Moderator assistance please.

Tim Ford, try this:

jfw-ow...@lists.the-jdh.com

I copied from contacts. 
jfw-ow...@lists.the-jdh.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Tim Ford 
Subject: Need Moderator assistance please.

I apologize for writing the entire list.  I tried but could never find an
email address for the list moderator.  I need assistance.  Would one of the
moderators please contact me off list?  I apologize in advance for this, but
I just cannot figure out the list issue I am having; I do not see my own
emails posted to the list, although I believe they are going through.

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adblock was: Firefox 40 question

Hi Brad.  I searched Fire Fox for adblock but did not find one just 
called adblock.  Lots of pluses and youtube and forks.  What about this one?

AdBlock Lite
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-lite-firefox/?src=api

Bob
On 8/31/2015 7:40 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:

Tom and Gennie,

Control L is working fine for me with Firefox 40.0.3. I have had a 
couple of occasions where it didn't work for some reason, but they're 
few and far between. To Gennie's point about Firefox crashing, I 
discovered that the ads were most of the problem. I installed the 
Adblock add-on for Firefox, and most of my crashes went away. 
Occasionally a video will cause Firefox to crash even still, but it's 
way better than it was without Adblock. (Not to be confused with 
Adblock+ which I have not tried.)


Tom, I often enter a URL (or paste one) into the Windows Run box. So 
press Windows key and the letter r, then type or paste in the URL. If 
Firefox is not your default browser, the process is a little 
different. Press Windows key and the letter r, then type

firefox url
for instance
firefox www.google.com

There's your work around if you need it.


Brad



On 8/31/2015 8:08 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:

Jenny:

I can't even get it to work with one address, let alone multiple 
addresses.


Would be interested in any fixes people come up with.

For now, reluctantly, it's back to Internet Explorer.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gennie 
Eachus

via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: RE: Firefox 40 question

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing 
and has

to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom 
Behler via

Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for 
Windows

support list.' 
Cc: Tom Behler 
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.


Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then 
able to

open The web site from that point.


However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
Firefox 40.


Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?


I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent 
change in

Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.


I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.


Thank you.


Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


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RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

2015-09-01 Thread Ann Byrne via Jfw

What is the windows 10 equivalent keystroke for alt-tab

thanks.
At 01:58 PM 9/1/2015, you wrote:

Also using JAWS 16 with Windows 10, and it works really well.

Allen

I use to have a handle on life, but it broke off!

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Londa Peterson 
Subject: RE: using jaws16 with windows10?

JAWS 16 is working fairly well with Windows 10 on my laptop. It's certainly
much more than minimal. If JAWS 16 latest build isn't working well for you,
you need to uninstall and reinstall it. It will work much better after that.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:30 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

Hello to new Windows 10 users,

I just upgraded my 5 year old laptop to Windows 10. It had Windows 7 and
it had a WiFi connection so I didn't need to figure out how to make a
net connection.

I chose to upgrade preserving all the existing files and applications.
That part worked.

Now some notes to keep in mind.

The current version of JAWS 16 works minimally. The latest version of
NVDA 2015.3 works much better.

To the person asking the question. How did you get JAWS into your new
laptop? Install NVDA 2015.3 to get more use out of Windows 10 until JAWS
16 and 17 come out.

In Windows 10, the Windows key + i will bring up the setting list. But
JAWS might not help.

I am guessing, the sheveron button (system tray) might give a connection
path. Press the Windows-logo key and then close the start menu with ESCAPE.

Then tab to the sheveron button and then arrow down or right. There
might be a network item to select.

Opening the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key will have the
edit field. JAWS 16  will not announce this. NVDA does and with NVDA you
can arrow down through a list. JAWS 16 cannot do this.

Maybe other Windows 10 users will have more advice.

Peter T.

On 2015-08-31 10:12 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
> Hello Listers,
>
> I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings for the
> network. in other words, I can not get on the net.
>
> Please help!
>
> oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I need
to
> know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know about
> them.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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>
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test message.

2015-09-01 Thread Tim Ford via Jfw

Please ignore, I am just checking to make sure my settings changes took 
effect.


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RE: JAWS and Punctuation

2015-09-01 Thread Kimsan via Jfw

For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to text
and not punctuation, correct?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for
character, word, character and word or none. 

Best from,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

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Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to

Need Moderator assistance please.

2015-09-01 Thread Tim Ford via Jfw

I apologize for writing the entire list.  I tried but could never find an email 
address for the list moderator.  I need assistance.  Would one of the 
moderators please contact me off list?  I apologize in advance for this, but I 
just cannot figure out the list issue I am having; I do not see my own emails 
posted to the list, although I believe they are going through.

Tim Ford
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Re: Firefox 40 question

I guess the problem is with 40 and not with the version I have which is 
40.0.3.


I really need to think about turning off automatic updating but it is 
not as safe.


I do seem to have fewer crashes lately.

Bob

On 9/1/2015 1:11 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
I seem to be having luck with ctrl+l in Fire Fox 40.  I do notice that 
it has autofill turned on.  Sometimes Jaws has trouble reading what's 
added when I start typing.


But, now it seems to be working just fine.  I know. I'll forget about 
this thread and the problem will come up later.


I did make those changes to the Fire Fox configuration file that were 
suggested for screen reader users some time ago.  Could that make a 
difference?


Just wondering. Are you pressing ctrl+l the second time while you are 
still in the edit box, or after the page you want loads.


Sometimes pressing tab moves out of the Search or enter address edit 
combo


 box to a list of suggestions.  Other times it moves to the search 
Bing or what ever your prefered search engine is.  Somewhat 
confusing.  Needs a manual for screen reader users.


Bob
On 8/31/2015 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw wrote:
Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing 
and has

to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

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Behler via

Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for 
Windows

support list.' 
Cc: Tom Behler 
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.


Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then 
able to

open The web site from that point.


However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
Firefox 40.


Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?


I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent 
change in

Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.


I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.


Thank you.


Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: data graphing ideas?

Thanks Mario, for pointing out the graphing calculator. Also, I know I
should just start reading more about scripting Jaws and join those forums.

Thing is. I don't see much for personal finance for the blind in any
platform. A few apps and programs but nothing I could even get a grip
on or that worked reliably for me. It's like the information presented
is not formatted in a way I can picture or make sense of.

I'm 62 years old and just a bit slower than I used to be.

Bob

On 8/25/2015 8:43 AM, Mario via Jfw wrote:

I think you're on the right track.
the Orion TI-84 Plus Talking Graphing Calculator employs:
• Graph functions and trace points made accessible with speech and
audible tone.
• Listen to entire graph, including special sounds for negative
regions and axis crossing points.

if you want to check it out for more ideas:
https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Orion%20TI-84%20Plus%20Talking%20Graphing%20Calculator_1-07340-00P_10001_11051

since you're an experienced programmer, you're more enabled to "make
it so". but remember, newbie wanna be scriptwriters need to start from
the bottom of the barrel... have you ever considered to join the JAWS
scripting ml? not to shew you away from this ml, but you can pose
more technical questions about scripting snafoos to get assistance
from other experienced sdcripters.

On 8/20/2015 11:44 AM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
I'll start by saying I don't know of any off-the-shelf graphing
solutions
for visually impaired users. So everything that follows is sort of
"what if"

hypothetical stuff, just thinking out loud.

Presenting data to blind and visually impaired users seems like a mostly
uninvestigated area, wide open for new research. There is an annual
academic
conference called IEEE Vis: http://ieeevis.org/. Historically, their
focus
is to present new research in different ways to visualize data. As
far as I

know, they have never bitten off the challenge of presenting data in
non-visual ways. But if you have any pull in the academic community,
perhaps

you could get some grad students to research ways to display data
non-visually, with the end-goal of getting their research published
through

this conference.

Just thinking off the top of my head, I could imagine a bar chart
with items
left-to-right (along the x axis) and values along the y axis. We
could use
JAWS to read the value for each item, but instead of just reading
numbers,
modulate the JAWS speech pitch in accordance with the value: larger
values
would be read with a higher pitch, smaller values with a lower pitch.
So,
instead of just hearing a bunch of numbers, you'd hear pitch changes
with

each number that would allow the user to immediately place the value
relative to other values. The pitch changes would give you a
"picture" of

the values relative to each other.

I'm sure that's a pretty naive approach, but as far as I know, no one
has
tried it yet. It might be an interesting challenge for the JAWS
scripting

language.
-Paul

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RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good 
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the 
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my 
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers, 
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote 
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to 
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws 
options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings center / 
configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the 
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is 
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells 
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want 
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the " 
all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through.  
They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work backwards than 
what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever 
you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are 
the practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or 
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via 
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different 
levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check 
will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none.  That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter.  Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control + dash for example. If the
combination is already being used for another command jaws will tell you.
Doing this in the Default Keyboard Manager, allows this keystroke to be used
in all aplications.
7. Tab to the Okay button, press the spacebar, then a dialogue will open
asking if you are sure you want to modify the default JKM. Press the
spacebar on the Yes option.

Now, every time you press the control + dash keystroke it changes the
punctuation level.  So press the control + dash keystroke until you hear the
punctuation level you want.

If you ever want to change or remove the keystroke, simply repeat the above
steps.

Take care.
Mike
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Re: Firefox 40 question

2015-09-01 Thread Gerald Levy via Jfw



Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to crash 
or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up with 
Firefox 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35, which seems 
to be more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike IE, you can 
have multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another 
without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also 
takes a very long time to load some web pages.


Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?

Thanks,

Russell
On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw  
wrote:


Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and 
has

to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler 
via

Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for 
Windows

support list.' 
Cc: Tom Behler 
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able 
to

open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change 
in

Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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RE: Surface Pro

On what Windows version will the Surface Pro operate?  Could it operate with
"Windows 9", as with the new Windows mobile phones?  Or, could it
accommodate the full version of Windows 10?

Jim H

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Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:26 AM
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Cc: Pablo Morales 
Subject: RE: Surface Pro

Yes, on a surface pro jaws works fine.


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Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: Surface Pro

I'm running a Surface Pro.  All Jaws functions that I use are working as
expected.  Windows crashes on occasion, but the fact that Jaws 16 re-starts
is a major step forward when this occurs.  I have had to do a few Jaws
repairs and had some other issues with Office 365, but overall, I'm very
pleased with the Surface.  I find that a Bluetooth keyboard is preferable
over using the surface's keyboard cover.  Howevewr, when I need to charge
the keyboard, the cover is better than not having a keyboard to use.

Les

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Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Marianne Denning 
Subject: Surface Pro

Is anyone running JAWS using a Surface Pro?  If so, do all JAWS
functions work well?  What is your overall impression?

--
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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053

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Re: Surface Pro

2015-09-01 Thread Marianne Denning via Jfw

As I understand, it runs Windows 10.

On 9/1/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw  wrote:
> On what Windows version will the Surface Pro operate?  Could it operate
> with
> "Windows 9", as with the new Windows mobile phones?  Or, could it
> accommodate the full version of Windows 10?
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:26 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Pablo Morales 
> Subject: RE: Surface Pro
>
> Yes, on a surface pro jaws works fine.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
> via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:54 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Les Kriegler
> Subject: RE: Surface Pro
>
> I'm running a Surface Pro.  All Jaws functions that I use are working as
> expected.  Windows crashes on occasion, but the fact that Jaws 16 re-starts
> is a major step forward when this occurs.  I have had to do a few Jaws
> repairs and had some other issues with Office 365, but overall, I'm very
> pleased with the Surface.  I find that a Bluetooth keyboard is preferable
> over using the surface's keyboard cover.  Howevewr, when I need to charge
> the keyboard, the cover is better than not having a keyboard to use.
>
> Les
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marianne
> Denning via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:26 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Cc: Marianne Denning 
> Subject: Surface Pro
>
> Is anyone running JAWS using a Surface Pro?  If so, do all JAWS
> functions work well?  What is your overall impression?
>
> --
> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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Re: Firefox 40 question

2015-09-01 Thread Michael Mote via Jfw

I would try pressing Alt D instead of Control L.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:47 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw  wrote:
> 
> Hello, everyone.
> 
> 
> 
> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
> paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able to
> open The web site from that point.
> 
> 
> 
> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
> Firefox 40.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
> 
> 
> 
> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
> Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change in
> Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
> 
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RE: JAWS and Punctuation

2015-09-01 Thread Adrian Spratt via Jfw

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for
character, word, character and word or none. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are
the practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or
two things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different
levels of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check
will bounce!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Kimsan via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Holy crap bro!
That was amazing! I just did it and it worked.

Now, is there a list that will tell me what punctuation will be spoken for
the different levels?
Thanks again, checks in the mail.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Mike B. 
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Hi Adrian & List Members,

Steps for, Assigning A Keystroke To Adjust Punctuation On The Fly

1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws Manager.
2. Goto Keyboard Manager and press enter.
3. Navigate to Default, & then tab 1 time to get into the list of options.
4. In the Default keyboard manager list navigate to Set Punctuation Level If
it says none.  That means there has not been a keystroke assigned.
5. Press the Alt key to open the menues, & right arrow to Action. Then down
arrow to Add Keystroke, & press enter.  Or press control + A which is the
shortcut for asigning a keystroke.
6. Insert a keystroke combination like control +

RE: office 365

That was most interesting, and we may get it here before I hang it up.  I was 
thinking you were having trouble with Office in general; I don't use Outlook in 
my home installation.  In fact, until I quit procrastinating, I don't have much 
of an e-mail setup right now.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I think Outlook 2013 is a good system. I just have a lot to learn with the 
ribbon concept and all, coming from Outlook  Express. I think Outlook is 
superior to Outlook Express. I have had it for three weeks and realize that I 
had OE for 11 years and did not learn it over night. 

You can hit Control Y and go to various boxes. Control 3 takes you directly to 
Contacts; Control 1 or Control Shift I will take you back to Inbox. Also you 
can hit Control Y then I to go back to it. One thing that I liked better about 
OE is that it might say, 50 messages, 44 unread. With this, you just get the 
unread, and you can't hit Control U to get to them. You have to arrow to them. 
Joseph that helped me got it fixed where that the unread message does not go 
away when I arrow through lists to get to personal messages. It has Favorites. 
That is, that you Control Tab, and there you have a list of your boxes, 
Calendar, Journal, Notes, etc. I have tried to get a book on it, but the 
library has none. I understand there is one for $80, which I would not be 
purchasing at this point, since I just bought computer, JAWS upgrades then had 
to replace hearing aids. 

A good working set up with it is the contacts. When writing an e-mail, when you 
are in the address fields, To, cc, or bcc, you press Alt Period, and the 
contact list appears like it does for a sighted person. You must arrow through 
names, and when you see the name you want, hit enter. Go through the list until 
you have them, then press enter twice. 

As far as I know, with attachments, you get on the document you want to attach 
and press Control C to copy it. You go back to Outlook, enter your contact(s), 
go to Subject, and then paste the copy in the body. That is way different than 
I have had, where I could pull up a directory, go to the item I wanted to 
attach and press Enter. 

I don't know how to work in the extra features, but have listed some 
appointments in Calendar. 

Joseph the Free Tech guy from another list has spent a lot of time getting me 
to the point where I am. 

There is one section called notes. It could work for me, when I'm on the phone 
taking information. Then I could work on it and either file it else where or 
use it in an e-mail, if I want. That is a good place to store shipping 
information, etc. 

I have set up a box though called All mine, where I park e-mails like that with 
tracking number and that sort of information. 

I set up a box called Keepers, where I have stored tutorial information 
regarding Outlook and Office 2013. 

I set up a box for one of my lists, but must have missed a step, because 
nothing was coming to my Inbox and everything going there, so I had to move 
everything out of that one and just delete the box. To do that, you Control Tab 
to Favorites and arrow to the box and hit Delete. 

I hope this rambling gives you a tiny glimpse of Outlook. Me telling you about 
is about like me describing how the new car models look this year. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS 
DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013.  I can't say I've been a heavy user lately, 
but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm still running 
under 7, but using the very latest JAWS maintenance release.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called 
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting the 
thing. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: office 365

No matter what I do, nothing is working.
I'll call tech tomorrow, as it's the first day back for the school.

When I sign in and the steps state to click settings, don't remember off hand 
the rest, but one thing is when I click the light version, the page freezes.

RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013.  I can't say I've been a heavy user lately, 
but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm still running 
under 7, but using the very latest JAWS maintenance release.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called 
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting the 
thing. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: office 365

No matter what I do, nothing is working.
I'll call tech tomorrow, as it's the first day back for the school.

When I sign in and the steps state to click settings, don't remember off hand 
the rest, but one thing is when I click the light version, the page freezes.
>From memory, I log in, I don't find a settings link, or anything when using 
>the jaws curser, but there is this button menu to press for settings an aps.
I click that, I tab over to general, it expands, then I see the light version 
and press enter on it. Then it freezes.
This is driving me bonkers lol. No check boxes, or nothing of the sort.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher 
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Niall Gallagher 
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,

Follow the steps as listed, but login using the below link first.

www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Niall Gallagher  wrote:

Hi,

I clicked on the link in my previous email, and it brought me to a generic 
Outlook login.
I inserted my student username and password, and I was logged into the lite 
version of the email interface.

If your account is similar to mine, which I think it is, you should be able to 
follow the steps in the below link to activate the more accessible view

http://tinyurl.com/qzvs2y7

Due to the differences in our time zones, it is night time here in Ireland.
So I probably won't see your reply for 9 or 10 hours, but let me know how it 
goes.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Kimsan via Jfw  wrote:

I logged in, and it's still the same.  Lol, I just realized I can navigate by 
buttons to go from email to email, instead of pressing h.

Pressed x or A nothing was found. Since I have this email open, let me open up 
one email and see if it makes me light up a cigarette, just a second...
Ok, I pressed enter on the email, it made the formsmode sound and I couldn't 
down arrow, nothing.  I can't find the body of the email to read about the 
update to the strike lol.
I'm going to go smoke now...

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com
] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Niall Gallagher 
Subject: Re: office 365

Put a period in place of the second slash, and you should be brought to a login 
page.

www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:21 PM, Kimsan via Jfw  wrote:

So, I could type, www.outlook.com/staffemail/psd1.org?

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com

] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Niall Gallagher 
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,

That is the usual procedure,
However, depending on the type of account, you may be able to login via 
www.outlook.com.

In the case of my student email, I login via outlook.com/studentmail.ul.ie.

Maybe you could replace my information with what is after the @ sign in your 
email address.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 24, 2015, at 9:19 PM, Kimsan via Jfw  wrote:

I just go to the district website from home, click the email link,

then click staff log in and enter the user name and password...?

Did I answer that correctly?

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-

From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com

] On Behalf Of

RE: office 365

2015-09-01 Thread Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw

Why use Outlook Light?  I use Office 2013/Office 365 at work and I am given a 
choice of public or shared computer, private computer, or Outlook Light.  I 
always use private computer because no one using this computer but me.

-Original Message-
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013.  I can't say I've been a heavy user lately, 
but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm still running 
under 7, but using the very latest JAWS maintenance release.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called 
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting the 
thing.

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: office 365

No matter what I do, nothing is working.
I'll call tech tomorrow, as it's the first day back for the school.

When I sign in and the steps state to click settings, don't remember off hand 
the rest, but one thing is when I click the light version, the page freezes.
>From memory, I log in, I don't find a settings link, or anything when using 
>the jaws curser, but there is this button menu to press for settings an aps.
I click that, I tab over to general, it expands, then I see the light version 
and press enter on it. Then it freezes.
This is driving me bonkers lol. No check boxes, or nothing of the sort.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher 
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Niall Gallagher 
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,

Follow the steps as listed, but login using the below link first.

www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Niall Gallagher  wrote:

Hi,

I clicked on the link in my previous email, and it brought me to a generic 
Outlook login.
I inserted my student username and password, and I was logged into the lite 
version of the email interface.

If your account is similar to mine, which I think it is, you should be able to 
follow the steps in the below link to activate the more accessible view

http://tinyurl.com/qzvs2y7

Due to the differences in our time zones, it is night time here in Ireland.
So I probably won't see your reply for 9 or 10 hours, but let me know how it 
goes.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Kimsan via Jfw  wrote:

I logged in, and it's still the same.  Lol, I just realized I can navigate by 
buttons to go from email to email, instead of pressing h.

Pressed x or A nothing was found. Since I have this email open, let me open up 
one email and see if it makes me light up a cigarette, just a second...
Ok, I pressed enter on the email, it made the formsmode sound and I couldn't 
down arrow, nothing.  I can't find the body of the email to read about the 
update to the strike lol.
I'm going to go smoke now...

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com
] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:41 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Niall Gallagher 
Subject: Re: office 365

Put a period in place of the second slash, and you should be brought to a login 
page.

www.outlook.com/staffemail.psd1.org

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:21 PM, Kimsan via Jfw  wrote:

So, I could type, www.outlook.com/staffemail/psd1.org?

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com

] On Behalf Of Niall Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Niall Gallagher 
Subject: Re: office 365

Hi,

That is the usual procedure,
However, depending on the type of account, you may be able to login via 
www.outlook.com.

In the case of my student email, I login via outlook.com/studentmail.ul.ie.

Maybe you could replace my information with what is after the @ sign in your

RE: Contacting Netflix about accessibility issues.

I didn't know they still sent physical media; good to know.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of cecropia64--- via 
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 7:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: cecropi...@att.net
Subject: Re: Contacting Netflix about accessibility issues.

Not that it'll help with the accessibility issue which I've written to and 
spoke to them on the phone about, but you can always call them and order the 
discs you want.  They are more than happy to do this for you. 
I've done it myself a few times and they were very helpful.
I know it doesn't help accessibility but at least you can get what you want.  
Hope this helps a little.

Stew8/31/2015 5:13 PM, Gudrun Brunot via Jfw wrote:
> Hi Tim: I wrote. Come on, folks, Tim's letter is good. You can modify it to 
> address what your beef is. Mine was that when I want to order discs from a 
> series, I can click on the series but not on the episodes themselves. I could 
> never order disc 2, or 3, without sighted assistance. I haven't checked out 
> the website too recently, but I've also chimed in on the audio description 
> bit.
>
>
>
> Gudrun
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford 
> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 6:20 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Tim Ford
> Subject: Contacting Netflix about accessibility issues.
>
> Hi All,
>
> I took Genni's advice, and called Netflix at 877-742-1480.  As I expected, 
> the person answering the general call line had no suggestions.  She did 
> however give me the email address for posting questions to their engineer 
> group.  The address is:
> technicalresea...@netflix.com
>
> I also recommend anyone who wishes to use Netflix contact them, either at the 
> phone number below, or the email address above.
>
> In case anyone is interested, below is what I wrote to Netflix.  I am not 
> claiming this as anything more than it is, a quick note of frustration, with 
> some ideas for them.  Here is what I wrote:
>
>
> Dear Netflix,
>
>
> I am blind, and use a Windows 7 laptop.  Up until a week or so ago, your web 
> site was extremely hard to navigate, but at least I could start a video.
> Now, after your web page design changes implemented a few days ago, I cannot 
> even start a video.
>
> I am using the latest update of JAWS version 16; JAWS is the world’s most 
> widely used screen reading software for the blind.  I tried accessing your 
> service with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, but could not get a video to start.
> With IE, I cannot even activate my profile.
>
> I am a reasonably experienced Internet user, and if there is a way to 
> navigate your site with a screen reader, I have not figured it out.  I am 
> using the recommended common settings for JAWS, and I have no problems with 
> some other video streaming services.
>
> Back a few weeks ago, Netflix announced the addition of audio description.
> That is a great move, and I applaud you for that.  However, in a very ironic 
> twist, it is not possible for a blind person to select the audio described 
> version, even though one is on the part of your site that contains only audio 
> described programs.  Why add that extra step?  If one is on the audio 
> description page, the user obviously wants the audio described version, so 
> why not make that the default?
>
> In general, there seems to be a huge gap between your marketing department 
> and the technology group.  Netflix marketing is advertising this new and 
> wonderful audio description service, but a blind person simply cannot 
> navigate the site, especially after the rollout of your new web page design.
>
> In closing, I am using a Windows laptop, and I do not have a smart phone.
> The issues I am asking you to please fix are just for us old-fashioned blind 
> folks using a Windows computer.
>
> I know from experience that screen reader accessibility is a very narrow 
> specialty and skill set, so if you do not have such an expert on staff, you 
> could either hire one or contract with one of the accessibility consultant 
> experts that will help you become and stay accessible.
>
> I am happy to volunteer by helping you test any changes; I have done that in 
> the past for a number of web service companies.  Please advise, and much 
> thanks.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tim Ford
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gennie Eachus via Jfw
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:49 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Gennie Eachus
> Subject: RE: Netflix
>
> I also am having trouble with Netflix. I can no longer access the search 
> field. I have spoken to both the DVD customer service line and to the 
> streaming customer service line.
>
> The customer service number is
> (877) 742-1480
> You will be asked to go online to get a service code to speed things up. Not 
> necessary. Just stay on the line and someone will answer.
>
> We all need to

Re: using jaws16 with windows10?

2015-09-01 Thread Peter Tesar via Jfw

Hello to new Windows 10 users,

I just upgraded my 5 year old laptop to Windows 10. It had Windows 7 and
it had a WiFi connection so I didn't need to figure out how to make a
net connection.

I chose to upgrade preserving all the existing files and applications.
That part worked.

Now some notes to keep in mind.

The current version of JAWS 16 works minimally. The latest version of
NVDA 2015.3 works much better.

To the person asking the question. How did you get JAWS into your new
laptop? Install NVDA 2015.3 to get more use out of Windows 10 until JAWS
16 and 17 come out.

In Windows 10, the Windows key + i will bring up the setting list. But
JAWS might not help.

I am guessing, the sheveron button (system tray) might give a connection
path. Press the Windows-logo key and then close the start menu with ESCAPE.

Then tab to the sheveron button and then arrow down or right. There
might be a network item to select.

Opening the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key will have the
edit field. JAWS 16 will not announce this. NVDA does and with NVDA you
can arrow down through a list. JAWS 16 cannot do this.

Maybe other Windows 10 users will have more advice.

Peter T.

On 2015-08-31 10:12 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:

Hello Listers,

I just baught a windows10 notebook. But I can't fine the settings for the
network. in other words, I can not get on the net.

Please help!

oh, by the way, are there some special settings in windows10 that I need to
know for my computer to work right? Please if you will, let me know about
them.

Thanks!

Carliss

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RE: newest emails on top

Is there not a way in JAWS to "deselect" a specific item in a list?  Once
you find this in Keyboard Manager", you could "deselect" the item/e-mail you
want to keep, and press "delete" to get rid of every item/e-mail, except the
1 you do not want to keep.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:12 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: newest emails on top

Yes, I completely slipped that factoid.
Then we can also select noncontiguous emails with CTRL spacebar and only
delete what I would like right?
You seem like a smart fella and the conversation view I like as I can
quickly delete emails that I have no interest in, even though CTRL A works,
but we are back to if there is an email in that conversation I'd like to
keep.
Back on schedule, I will research more to see how to make it work the way
I'd like.


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Bill White 
Subject: Re: newest emails on top

Actually, it wouldn't take any time at all to delete all the emails. All you
must do is to go to the list of emails in the particular folder, press
CONTROL plus the letter A to select all the emails, then press delete, and
they will all be gone, no matter whether you are in conversation thread mode
or not.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
- Original Message -
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" 
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" 
Cc: "Kimsan" 
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: newest emails on top


>I know where it is at. Originally it was on ascending.
> I'm not thinking its you and not "explaining" well, instead I think
>there  is  more to it.  I'm thinking the ascending/descending not
>working applies to  the emails in this case in the conversation view.
>I wonder if it will  work  if I removed the conversation view, but that
>would take 40 days and 40  nights to delete all the emails I have
>coming in lol.
>
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Arnold via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:24 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Subject: RE: newest emails on top
>
> Did you press Alt V, V, S and then Tab to Sort. I had a problem about
> arrowing and tabbing, but arrowing got me to Sort, I believe, then
> Tabbing got me to the Option, where Ascending and Descending were. On
> mine, Descending was checked; I checked Ascending. Right now I am not
> good enough in Outlook 2013 to give the clearest instructions, but it
> is annoying, if you want your messages with the oldest first and are
> getting them with the newest first. I hope you can get it done this
> time.
>
> Best from,
>
> Carolyn
>
> P.S. Kimsan, I tried while in an e-mail, but that command in a message
> runs Spell Check like F 7. I thought I'd check it before sending. I
> did find out that that first V puts you on the upper Ribbon, so when
> you get to the S, Tab to Assending and Descending.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
> via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:13 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Kimsan 
> Subject: RE: newest emails on top
>
> Didn't work, emails are not coming on top of the thread...
>
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Arnold via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:57 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Subject: RE: newest emails on top
>
> Right, huh? It's Alt V V s - sorry.
>
> Best from,
>
> Carolyn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
> via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:49 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Kimsan 
> Subject: RE: newest emails on top
>
> Huh? Insert V plus V plus S?
>
>
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@gmail.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Arnold via Jfw
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 4:37 AM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
> Subject: RE: newest emails on top
>
> If you want your newest e-mail on top, Hit

RE: office 365

I think Outlook 2013 is a good system. I just have a lot to learn with the
ribbon concept and all, coming from Outlook  Express. I think Outlook is
superior to Outlook Express. I have had it for three weeks and realize that
I had OE for 11 years and did not learn it over night. 

You can hit Control Y and go to various boxes. Control 3 takes you directly
to Contacts; Control 1 or Control Shift I will take you back to Inbox. Also
you can hit Control Y then I to go back to it. One thing that I liked better
about OE is that it might say, 50 messages, 44 unread. With this, you just
get the unread, and you can't hit Control U to get to them. You have to
arrow to them. Joseph that helped me got it fixed where that the unread
message does not go away when I arrow through lists to get to personal
messages. It has Favorites. That is, that you Control Tab, and there you
have a list of your boxes, Calendar, Journal, Notes, etc. I have tried to
get a book on it, but the library has none. I understand there is one for
$80, which I would not be purchasing at this point, since I just bought
computer, JAWS upgrades then had to replace hearing aids. 

A good working set up with it is the contacts. When writing an e-mail, when
you are in the address fields, To, cc, or bcc, you press Alt Period, and the
contact list appears like it does for a sighted person. You must arrow
through names, and when you see the name you want, hit enter. Go through the
list until you have them, then press enter twice. 

As far as I know, with attachments, you get on the document you want to
attach and press Control C to copy it. You go back to Outlook, enter your
contact(s), go to Subject, and then paste the copy in the body. That is way
different than I have had, where I could pull up a directory, go to the item
I wanted to attach and press Enter. 

I don't know how to work in the extra features, but have listed some
appointments in Calendar. 

Joseph the Free Tech guy from another list has spent a lot of time getting
me to the point where I am. 

There is one section called notes. It could work for me, when I'm on the
phone taking information. Then I could work on it and either file it else
where or use it in an e-mail, if I want. That is a good place to store
shipping information, etc. 

I have set up a box though called All mine, where I park e-mails like that
with tracking number and that sort of information. 

I set up a box called Keepers, where I have stored tutorial information
regarding Outlook and Office 2013. 

I set up a box for one of my lists, but must have missed a step, because
nothing was coming to my Inbox and everything going there, so I had to move
everything out of that one and just delete the box. To do that, you Control
Tab to Favorites and arrow to the box and hit Delete. 

I hope this rambling gives you a tiny glimpse of Outlook. Me telling you
about is about like me describing how the new car models look this year. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013.  I can't say I've been a heavy user
lately, but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm
still running under 7, but using the very latest JAWS maintenance release.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I feel for you, Kimsan. I am having similar problems with 2013. I called
Microsoft Disability line. At least I know what to do to keep jump starting
the thing. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: office 365

No matter what I do, nothing is working.
I'll call tech tomorrow, as it's the first day back for the school.

When I sign in and the steps state to click settings, don't remember off
hand the rest, but one thing is when I click the light version, the page
freezes.
>From memory, I log in, I don't find a settings link, or anything when using
the jaws curser, but there is this button menu to press for settings an aps.
I click that, I tab over to general, it expands, then I see the light
version and press enter on it. Then it freezes.
This is driving me bonkers lol. No check boxes, or nothing of the sort.

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Niall
Gallagher via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows

RE: JAWS and Punctuation