Re: antivirus again

2015-09-19 Thread Peter Tesar via Jfw 

Hello,

An alternative to getting 3rd anti virus software is to use the 
MicroSoft software.


For Windows 7 install the MS Essentials from the MS web site. Be sure to 
uninstall any anti virus software before installingthe MS product.


On Windows 10 it is MS Defender.

You should turn on the Windows firewall if you don't have any 3rd party 
firewall protection.


The advantage of using the MS product is that it will be updated 
frequently.

This is not perfect but it is free, and JAWS accessible.

If you are a proficient PC user, you already take precautions like not 
opening suspicious eMails or links.


Other anti virus software have accessibility problems.

Peter T.

On 2015-09-18 10:49 PM, Jim Hamilton via Jfw wrote:

Well, I can tell you that I have Kaspersky, which was installed by a techie
friend of mine.  Apparently, it is 1 of the top rated such programmes, but,
I have absolutely no JAWS interface with it!

I added Malwarebytes(anti-malware), which is more accessible than some other
such programmes, for extra protection.  However, I would still prefer to
find a "total solution" which is accessible.  So, I will be checking out
Webroot and Viper.

Does anyone have any comparative information regarding the accessibility of
these 2 products?

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Jennette
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: David Jennette <dcj...@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: antivirus again

Another security package you can try is Webroot.  Again, it's not totally
accessible.  You'll need to use your jaws cursor instead of being able to
tab around but when it comes to security there are going to be trade-offs.
You can run scans just fine and be able to see the results with no problems.
I haven't found a way to get into where you can view quarantined items and
such yet but tech support is free so if worse came to worse I could have
them remote in if needed.  Thing is, for the most part for general use, it's
doable.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Robert Logue <bobca...@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: antivirus again

I'd never heard of Viper before.  I'll check it out.

Bob


On 9/18/2015 3:17 PM, Merv Keck via Jfw wrote:

Everyone has their favorites. No one wants to pay for decent
protection. All I can do is tell you what I, and some others, are
using successfully on our machines ranging from Windows 7, 8.1, and 10
with Jaws,.  And that is viper Internet security. It isn't perfect and
it isn't free but then again what in life is perfect and free.
I am using the viper Internet security which has both Antivirus and
Antimalware protection and works with both Jaws 16 and 17. It has a 30
day trial if you want to check it out.
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Maria Campbell <luc...@ct.metrocast.net>
Subject: Re: antivirus again

The problem with anti-virus products is that they are not standardized
to be accessible.  They may be so today, but not tomorrow and then
again they may be once more.
It's basically that simple.  Although blind people should be as secure
as sighted people on their computers, until if and when this concept
is accepted and expected, we will continue to have this issue.


On 9/18/2015 4:35 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:

   Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well
with Jaws 16?

Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful.  I
sure do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going
so we don't have to ask this question every time our security product
needs renewing.

Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.

Thanks.

Bob


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RE: antivirus again

2015-09-19 Thread Jane Withers via Jfw 
It is also not a very robust protection.


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 7:28 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: Re: antivirus again

Hello,

An alternative to getting 3rd anti virus software is to use the 
MicroSoft software.

For Windows 7 install the MS Essentials from the MS web site. Be sure to 
uninstall any anti virus software before installingthe MS product.

On Windows 10 it is MS Defender.

You should turn on the Windows firewall if you don't have any 3rd party 
firewall protection.

The advantage of using the MS product is that it will be updated 
frequently.
This is not perfect but it is free, and JAWS accessible.

If you are a proficient PC user, you already take precautions like not 
opening suspicious eMails or links.

Other anti virus software have accessibility problems.

Peter T.

On 2015-09-18 10:49 PM, Jim Hamilton via Jfw wrote:
> Well, I can tell you that I have Kaspersky, which was installed by a
techie
> friend of mine.  Apparently, it is 1 of the top rated such programmes,
but,
> I have absolutely no JAWS interface with it!
>
> I added Malwarebytes(anti-malware), which is more accessible than some
other
> such programmes, for extra protection.  However, I would still prefer to
> find a "total solution" which is accessible.  So, I will be checking out
> Webroot and Viper.
>
> Does anyone have any comparative information regarding the accessibility
of
> these 2 products?
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
Jennette
> via Jfw
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:37 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: David Jennette <dcj...@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: antivirus again
>
> Another security package you can try is Webroot.  Again, it's not totally
> accessible.  You'll need to use your jaws cursor instead of being able to
> tab around but when it comes to security there are going to be trade-offs.
> You can run scans just fine and be able to see the results with no
problems.
> I haven't found a way to get into where you can view quarantined items and
> such yet but tech support is free so if worse came to worse I could have
> them remote in if needed.  Thing is, for the most part for general use,
it's
> doable.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
> via Jfw
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:00 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: Robert Logue <bobca...@shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: antivirus again
>
> I'd never heard of Viper before.  I'll check it out.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 9/18/2015 3:17 PM, Merv Keck via Jfw wrote:
>> Everyone has their favorites. No one wants to pay for decent
>> protection. All I can do is tell you what I, and some others, are
>> using successfully on our machines ranging from Windows 7, 8.1, and 10
>> with Jaws,.  And that is viper Internet security. It isn't perfect and
>> it isn't free but then again what in life is perfect and free.
>> I am using the viper Internet security which has both Antivirus and
>> Antimalware protection and works with both Jaws 16 and 17. It has a 30
>> day trial if you want to check it out.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria
>> Campbell via Jfw
>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:02 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
>> Cc: Maria Campbell <luc...@ct.metrocast.net>
>> Subject: Re: antivirus again
>>
>> The problem with anti-virus products is that they are not standardized
>> to be accessible.  They may be so today, but not tomorrow and then
>> again they may be once more.
>> It's basically that simple.  Although blind people should be as secure
>> as sighted people on their computers, until if and when this concept
>> is accepted and expected, we will continue to have this issue.
>>
>>
>> On 9/18/2015 4:35 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
>>>Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well
>>> with Jaws 16?
>>>
>>> Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful.  I
>>> sure do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going
>>> so we don't have to ask this question every time our security product
>>> needs renewing.
>>>
>>> Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>

RE: antivirus again

2015-09-18 Thread Jim Hamilton via Jfw 
Well, I can tell you that I have Kaspersky, which was installed by a techie
friend of mine.  Apparently, it is 1 of the top rated such programmes, but,
I have absolutely no JAWS interface with it!

I added Malwarebytes(anti-malware), which is more accessible than some other
such programmes, for extra protection.  However, I would still prefer to
find a "total solution" which is accessible.  So, I will be checking out
Webroot and Viper.

Does anyone have any comparative information regarding the accessibility of
these 2 products?

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Jennette
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 6:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: David Jennette <dcj...@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: antivirus again

Another security package you can try is Webroot.  Again, it's not totally
accessible.  You'll need to use your jaws cursor instead of being able to
tab around but when it comes to security there are going to be trade-offs.
You can run scans just fine and be able to see the results with no problems.
I haven't found a way to get into where you can view quarantined items and
such yet but tech support is free so if worse came to worse I could have
them remote in if needed.  Thing is, for the most part for general use, it's
doable.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Robert Logue <bobca...@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: antivirus again

I'd never heard of Viper before.  I'll check it out.

Bob


On 9/18/2015 3:17 PM, Merv Keck via Jfw wrote:
> Everyone has their favorites. No one wants to pay for decent
> protection. All I can do is tell you what I, and some others, are
> using successfully on our machines ranging from Windows 7, 8.1, and 10
> with Jaws,.  And that is viper Internet security. It isn't perfect and
> it isn't free but then again what in life is perfect and free.
> I am using the viper Internet security which has both Antivirus and
> Antimalware protection and works with both Jaws 16 and 17. It has a 30
> day trial if you want to check it out.
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria
> Campbell via Jfw
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:02 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: Maria Campbell <luc...@ct.metrocast.net>
> Subject: Re: antivirus again
>
> The problem with anti-virus products is that they are not standardized
> to be accessible.  They may be so today, but not tomorrow and then
> again they may be once more.
> It's basically that simple.  Although blind people should be as secure
> as sighted people on their computers, until if and when this concept
> is accepted and expected, we will continue to have this issue.
>
>
> On 9/18/2015 4:35 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
>>   Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well
>> with Jaws 16?
>>
>> Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful.  I
>> sure do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going
>> so we don't have to ask this question every time our security product
>> needs renewing.
>>
>> Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
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RE: antivirus again

2015-09-18 Thread Debbie April Yuille via Jfw 
Hi Robert

I use Eset Smart Security. It's quite accessible, however you will need to
use the JAWS Cursor in some areas.

Debbie


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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, 19 September 2015 6:36 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Robert Logue 
Subject: antivirus again

 Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well with 
Jaws 16?

Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful.  I sure 
do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going so we 
don't have to ask this question every time our security product needs 
renewing.

Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.

Thanks.

Bob


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Re: antivirus again

2015-09-18 Thread Robert Logue via Jfw 

Well said Maria.

I guess I will have to get the free trials and mess with uninstalling 
other antivirus software again.


Bob

On 9/18/2015 3:02 PM, Maria Campbell via Jfw wrote:
The problem with anti-virus products is that they are not standardized 
to be accessible.  They may be so today, but not tomorrow and then 
again they may be once more.
It's basically that simple.  Although blind people should be as secure 
as sighted people on their computers, until if and when this concept 
is accepted and expected, we will continue to have this issue.



On 9/18/2015 4:35 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:

 Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well with
Jaws 16?

Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful. I sure
do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going so we
don't have to ask this question every time our security product needs
renewing.

Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.

Thanks.

Bob


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Re: antivirus again

2015-09-18 Thread Robert Logue via Jfw 

I'd never heard of Viper before.  I'll check it out.

Bob


On 9/18/2015 3:17 PM, Merv Keck via Jfw wrote:

Everyone has their favorites. No one wants to pay for decent protection. All
I can do is tell you what I, and some others, are using successfully on our
machines ranging from Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 with Jaws,.  And that is viper
Internet security. It isn't perfect and it isn't free but then again what in
life is perfect and free.
I am using the viper Internet security which has both Antivirus and
Antimalware protection and works with both Jaws 16 and 17. It has a 30 day
trial if you want to check it out.
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Maria Campbell <luc...@ct.metrocast.net>
Subject: Re: antivirus again

The problem with anti-virus products is that they are not standardized to be
accessible.  They may be so today, but not tomorrow and then again they may
be once more.
It's basically that simple.  Although blind people should be as secure as
sighted people on their computers, until if and when this concept is
accepted and expected, we will continue to have this issue.


On 9/18/2015 4:35 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:

  Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well with
Jaws 16?

Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful.  I sure
do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going so we
don't have to ask this question every time our security product needs
renewing.

Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.

Thanks.

Bob


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RE: antivirus again

2015-09-18 Thread Merv Keck via Jfw 
Everyone has their favorites. No one wants to pay for decent protection. All
I can do is tell you what I, and some others, are using successfully on our
machines ranging from Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 with Jaws,.  And that is viper
Internet security. It isn't perfect and it isn't free but then again what in
life is perfect and free. 
I am using the viper Internet security which has both Antivirus and
Antimalware protection and works with both Jaws 16 and 17. It has a 30 day
trial if you want to check it out.
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Maria Campbell <luc...@ct.metrocast.net>
Subject: Re: antivirus again

The problem with anti-virus products is that they are not standardized to be
accessible.  They may be so today, but not tomorrow and then again they may
be once more.
It's basically that simple.  Although blind people should be as secure as
sighted people on their computers, until if and when this concept is
accepted and expected, we will continue to have this issue.


On 9/18/2015 4:35 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
>  Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well with 
> Jaws 16?
>
> Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful.  I sure 
> do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going so we 
> don't have to ask this question every time our security product needs 
> renewing.
>
> Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob
>
>
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Re: antivirus again

2015-09-18 Thread Maria Campbell via Jfw 
I use and pay for Trend Micro Internet security, which is somewhat 
accessible, but not totally.



On 9/18/2015 5:17 PM, Merv Keck via Jfw wrote:

Everyone has their favorites. No one wants to pay for decent protection. All
I can do is tell you what I, and some others, are using successfully on our
machines ranging from Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 with Jaws,.  And that is viper
Internet security. It isn't perfect and it isn't free but then again what in
life is perfect and free.
I am using the viper Internet security which has both Antivirus and
Antimalware protection and works with both Jaws 16 and 17. It has a 30 day
trial if you want to check it out.
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Maria Campbell <luc...@ct.metrocast.net>
Subject: Re: antivirus again

The problem with anti-virus products is that they are not standardized to be
accessible.  They may be so today, but not tomorrow and then again they may
be once more.
It's basically that simple.  Although blind people should be as secure as
sighted people on their computers, until if and when this concept is
accepted and expected, we will continue to have this issue.


On 9/18/2015 4:35 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:

  Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well with
Jaws 16?

Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful.  I sure
do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going so we
don't have to ask this question every time our security product needs
renewing.

Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.

Thanks.

Bob


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RE: antivirus again

2015-09-18 Thread David Jennette via Jfw 
Another security package you can try is Webroot.  Again, it's not totally
accessible.  You'll need to use your jaws cursor instead of being able to
tab around but when it comes to security there are going to be trade-offs.
You can run scans just fine and be able to see the results with no problems.
I haven't found a way to get into where you can view quarantined items and
such yet but tech support is free so if worse came to worse I could have
them remote in if needed.  Thing is, for the most part for general use, it's
doable.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Logue
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Robert Logue <bobca...@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: antivirus again

I'd never heard of Viper before.  I'll check it out.

Bob


On 9/18/2015 3:17 PM, Merv Keck via Jfw wrote:
> Everyone has their favorites. No one wants to pay for decent 
> protection. All I can do is tell you what I, and some others, are 
> using successfully on our machines ranging from Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 
> with Jaws,.  And that is viper Internet security. It isn't perfect and 
> it isn't free but then again what in life is perfect and free.
> I am using the viper Internet security which has both Antivirus and 
> Antimalware protection and works with both Jaws 16 and 17. It has a 30 
> day trial if you want to check it out.
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria 
> Campbell via Jfw
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:02 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
> Cc: Maria Campbell <luc...@ct.metrocast.net>
> Subject: Re: antivirus again
>
> The problem with anti-virus products is that they are not standardized 
> to be accessible.  They may be so today, but not tomorrow and then 
> again they may be once more.
> It's basically that simple.  Although blind people should be as secure 
> as sighted people on their computers, until if and when this concept 
> is accepted and expected, we will continue to have this issue.
>
>
> On 9/18/2015 4:35 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
>>   Which anti-virus and internet security programs working well 
>> with Jaws 16?
>>
>> Searching Bing for the answer to this question is not helpful.  I 
>> sure do wish people would test these things and keep a web site going 
>> so we don't have to ask this question every time our security product 
>> needs renewing.
>>
>> Not happy with AVG any more.  Thinking of Nod 32 or Caspersky.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
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