Re: [Jmol-developers] use of the OBJECT tag in IE9
Not studying Macs with this, but it's worth checking anyway. Anyone who has a Mac/Safari or Windows/MSIE, please test: http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno2.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok2.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok3.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok4.htm In principle, all of these should show a spinning protein. I need advise from someone with CSS experience -- what am I doing wrong between sno2.htm and sok4.htm? The only difference there is putting the applet in a table (sno2.htm) or not (sok4.htm). My experience is that MSIE is always right - just very particular. I'm missing something subtle. Bob On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Jaime Prilusky jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote: Bob, Safari 5.1.7 on Mac 10.7.4 shows the empty white square and stays there. No mouse movements nor clicks are enough to elicit any behavior. FireFox 12.0 and Chrome 19.0... on Mac load the applet immediately. Jaim On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: I use MSIE 9, and I haven't had any problem like that. So I think it's OK. But I am having one odd behavior -- our current set up for JmolCore is making it so that you have to move the mouse over the Jmol applet before Java loads. Strangest thing I've ever seen. I'm trying to track it down. Q: If you use MSIE 9 (or any other version of MSIE), could you please go to http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno2.htm and tell me if you see the applet right away (just a black box) or only after you move the mouse over it? Can you see what's wrong with my code and help me fix it? Thanks, Bob On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.eswrote: Version 9 of MSIE may use the OBJECT tag common to other browsers, rather than the class-id based tag characteristic of MSIE6+ Rich Apodaca reports [1] about problems running applets in IE9 with some versions of Java, so I am testing Jmol.js to switch to the HTML-type object tag for IE9. I see that the new JmolCore.js uses the same methods for inserting applets, so it will need the same fix-improvement. If there is no objection I will go for it. (Still have to set-up my SVN commit software, new computer, but hopefully will be able to do it this weekend) [1] http://metamolecular.com/blog/2012/05/29/ie9-error-when-pasting-from-che mdraw-to-chemwriter-and-a-fix/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900
Re: [Jmol-developers] use of the OBJECT tag in IE9
All works fine with MacOS and Google Chrome (pretty much same as Safari, they use the same rendering engine.) Jonathan On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: Not studying Macs with this, but it's worth checking anyway. Anyone who has a Mac/Safari or Windows/MSIE, please test: http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno2.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok2.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok3.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok4.htm In principle, all of these should show a spinning protein. I need advise from someone with CSS experience -- what am I doing wrong between sno2.htm and sok4.htm? The only difference there is putting the applet in a table (sno2.htm) or not (sok4.htm). My experience is that MSIE is always right - just very particular. I'm missing something subtle. Bob On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Jaime Prilusky jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote: Bob, Safari 5.1.7 on Mac 10.7.4 shows the empty white square and stays there. No mouse movements nor clicks are enough to elicit any behavior. FireFox 12.0 and Chrome 19.0... on Mac load the applet immediately. Jaim On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: I use MSIE 9, and I haven't had any problem like that. So I think it's OK. But I am having one odd behavior -- our current set up for JmolCore is making it so that you have to move the mouse over the Jmol applet before Java loads. Strangest thing I've ever seen. I'm trying to track it down. Q: If you use MSIE 9 (or any other version of MSIE), could you please go to http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno2.htm and tell me if you see the applet right away (just a black box) or only after you move the mouse over it? Can you see what's wrong with my code and help me fix it? Thanks, Bob On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es wrote: Version 9 of MSIE may use the OBJECT tag common to other browsers, rather than the class-id based tag characteristic of MSIE6+ Rich Apodaca reports [1] about problems running applets in IE9 with some versions of Java, so I am testing Jmol.js to switch to the HTML-type object tag for IE9. I see that the new JmolCore.js uses the same methods for inserting applets, so it will need the same fix-improvement. If there is no objection I will go for it. (Still have to set-up my SVN commit software, new computer, but hopefully will be able to do it this weekend) [1] http://metamolecular.com/blog/2012/05/29/ie9-error-when-pasting-from-che mdraw-to-chemwriter-and-a-fix/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr
Re: [Jmol-developers] use of the OBJECT tag in IE9
no such thing as pretty much in this game! :) On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jonathan Gutow gu...@uwosh.edu wrote: All works fine with MacOS and Google Chrome (pretty much same as Safari, they use the same rendering engine.) Jonathan On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: Not studying Macs with this, but it's worth checking anyway. Anyone who has a Mac/Safari or Windows/MSIE, please test: http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno2.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok2.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok3.htm http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sok4.htm In principle, all of these should show a spinning protein. I need advise from someone with CSS experience -- what am I doing wrong between sno2.htm and sok4.htm? The only difference there is putting the applet in a table (sno2.htm) or not (sok4.htm). My experience is that MSIE is always right - just very particular. I'm missing something subtle. Bob On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Jaime Prilusky jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote: Bob, Safari 5.1.7 on Mac 10.7.4 shows the empty white square and stays there. No mouse movements nor clicks are enough to elicit any behavior. FireFox 12.0 and Chrome 19.0... on Mac load the applet immediately. Jaim On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: I use MSIE 9, and I haven't had any problem like that. So I think it's OK. But I am having one odd behavior -- our current set up for JmolCore is making it so that you have to move the mouse over the Jmol applet before Java loads. Strangest thing I've ever seen. I'm trying to track it down. Q: If you use MSIE 9 (or any other version of MSIE), could you please go to http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/sno2.htm and tell me if you see the applet right away (just a black box) or only after you move the mouse over it? Can you see what's wrong with my code and help me fix it? Thanks, Bob On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.eswrote: Version 9 of MSIE may use the OBJECT tag common to other browsers, rather than the class-id based tag characteristic of MSIE6+ Rich Apodaca reports [1] about problems running applets in IE9 with some versions of Java, so I am testing Jmol.js to switch to the HTML-type object tag for IE9. I see that the new JmolCore.js uses the same methods for inserting applets, so it will need the same fix-improvement. If there is no objection I will go for it. (Still have to set-up my SVN commit software, new computer, but hopefully will be able to do it this weekend) [1] http://metamolecular.com/blog/2012/05/29/ie9-error-when-pasting-from-che mdraw-to-chemwriter-and-a-fix/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520
Re: [Jmol-developers] use of the OBJECT tag in IE9
OK, I agree...although my experience is things usually work in Safari, Chrome, Opera, usually FF, but not MSIE. So other MacOS tests: Safari: all work FF: all work Linux test with Chrome (nothing else installed at the moment): all work Jonathan On Jun 3, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: no such thing as pretty much in this game! :) On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jonathan Gutow gu...@uwosh.edu wrote: All works fine with MacOS and Google Chrome (pretty much same as Safari, they use the same rendering engine.) Jonathan Dr. Jonathan H. Gutow Chemistry Departmentgu...@uwosh.edu UW-Oshkosh Office: 920-424-1326 800 Algoma BoulevardFAX:920-424-2042 Oshkosh, WI 54901 http://www.uwosh.edu/facstaff/gutow -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers
Re: [Jmol-developers] use of the OBJECT tag in IE9
thank you. Now for MSIE On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Jonathan Gutow gu...@uwosh.edu wrote: OK, I agree...although my experience is things usually work in Safari, Chrome, Opera, usually FF, but not MSIE. So other MacOS tests: Safari: all work FF: all work Linux test with Chrome (nothing else installed at the moment): all work Jonathan On Jun 3, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: no such thing as pretty much in this game! :) On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Jonathan Gutow gu...@uwosh.edu wrote: All works fine with MacOS and Google Chrome (pretty much same as Safari, they use the same rendering engine.) Jonathan Dr. Jonathan H. Gutow Chemistry Departmentgu...@uwosh.edu UW-Oshkosh Office: 920-424-1326 800 Algoma BoulevardFAX:920-424-2042 Oshkosh, WI 54901 http://www.uwosh.edu/facstaff/gutow -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers -- Robert M. Hanson Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry Chair, Chemistry Department St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Jmol-developers mailing list Jmol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-developers
