Re: [Jmol-developers] current work

2010-09-19 Thread Angel Herráez
Bob Hanson wrote.

  -- proposing a NEW DEFAULT for Jmol for 12.1 and 12.0:
        double bonds in the plane of the atoms, not twisty with
  orientation.

I quite agree with Jonathan, I'm not sure I would like this default changed. 
Must play with it 
but haven't got the time now.

 -- smooth on-the-fly language switching

Can you elaborate mre on what that means?
We already could switch languages. Does it mean that the application reload is 
no longer 
done?





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Re: [Jmol-developers] current work

2010-09-19 Thread Robert Hanson
2010/9/19 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es

 Bob Hanson wrote.

   -- proposing a NEW DEFAULT for Jmol for 12.1 and 12.0:
 double bonds in the plane of the atoms, not twisty with
   orientation.

 I quite agree with Jonathan, I'm not sure I would like this default
 changed. Must play with it
 but haven't got the time now.


OK, that's probably enough to say we shouldn't change it. People who want
this will need to enter:

set multipleBondSpacing 0.35
set multipleBondRadiusFactor 0.7

if they want multiple bonds in-line.




  -- smooth on-the-fly language switching

 Can you elaborate mre on what that means?
 We already could switch languages. Does it mean that the application reload
 is no longer
 done?


With the applet menu you don't notice it, but with the application Jmol was
messing up menu and dialog items and was totally reloading the model. Now it
just instantly changes the button and menu item names. Every single button,
label, and menu item is simply switched over instantly.

You can see it especially if you open the console with either the
application or applet and type

set language fr
set language de
set language en

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Re: [Jmol-developers] current work

2010-09-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Jonathan Gutow gu...@uwosh.edu wrote:

 On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Robert Hanson wrote:

 -- proposing a NEW DEFAULT for Jmol for 12.1 and 12.0:
       double bonds in the plane of the atoms, not twisty with
 orientation.
 This is the default I always expected, but the current default makes
 sure that you can tell which are double bonds. I'm  not sure if I
 really want it changed to what I expected

I believe that the original argument for doing it the current way is
to ensure that the double bond always has full visibility... if in the
atoms plane (which atoms), and that plane happens to be perpendicular
to the eyes, then one will not see the double bond, but a single bond
instead...

Egon

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Re: [Jmol-developers] current work/double bond view...

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Gutow
I've played with Bob's example and here is my opinion.  Before I used  
Jmol I thought the default should be double bonds all in one plane,  
but now feel that Jmol's present default where you see the double  
bonds no matter what the viewing angle is better.  I do think the  
scale of the double bond should be set smaller than the current  
default and like the idea of an option to make the double bond plane  
fixed relative to the molecule axes.  The double bonds in a fixed  
plane should be an option not the default.

Should we do a poll and maybe on the user's list?

Joanthan
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Re: [Jmol-developers] current work

2010-09-16 Thread Robert Hanson
please play with it and see what you think.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Jonathan Gutow gu...@uwosh.edu wrote:


 On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Robert Hanson wrote:

  -- proposing a NEW DEFAULT for Jmol for 12.1 and 12.0:
double bonds in the plane of the atoms, not twisty with
  orientation.
 This is the default I always expected, but the current default makes
 sure that you can tell which are double bonds. I'm  not sure if I
 really want it changed to what I expected
double bond cylinders somewhat smaller than single bond
  cylinders
  this is very good.
  -- smooth on-the-fly language switching
 +
  Dr. Jonathan H. Gutow
 Chemistry Department gu...@uwosh.edu
 UW-Oshkosh   Office:920-424-1326
 800 Algoma Boulevard FAX:920-424-2042
 Oshkosh, WI 54901
  http://www.uwosh.edu/facstaff/gutow







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[Jmol-developers] current work

2010-09-15 Thread Robert Hanson
This week I'm working on a number of problems and have not uploaded my
changes to 12.1 because I have several items that also need implementing in
12.0. Here's a short list:

-- isosurface map MEP has completely rewritten code. We can now produce
highly ACCURATE electrostatic maps for proteins given a decent set of
partial charges. No need for huge map files.
-- a variety of bugs relating to saving JVXL files for specialized surfaces
(capped isosurfaces, for example)
-- console code refactored to make it possible to embed either the applet or
the application console in another applet or application
-- multipleBondRadiusFactor and multipleBondSpacing options
-- proposing a NEW DEFAULT for Jmol for 12.1 and 12.0:
  double bonds in the plane of the atoms, not twisty with orientation.
  double bond cylinders somewhat smaller than single bond cylinders
-- smooth on-the-fly language switching

Bob


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Re: [Jmol-developers] current work

2010-09-15 Thread Jonathan Gutow

On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Robert Hanson wrote:

 -- proposing a NEW DEFAULT for Jmol for 12.1 and 12.0:
   double bonds in the plane of the atoms, not twisty with  
 orientation.
This is the default I always expected, but the current default makes  
sure that you can tell which are double bonds. I'm  not sure if I  
really want it changed to what I expected
   double bond cylinders somewhat smaller than single bond  
 cylinders
 this is very good.
 -- smooth on-the-fly language switching
+
  Dr. Jonathan H. Gutow
Chemistry Department gu...@uwosh.edu
UW-Oshkosh   Office:920-424-1326
800 Algoma Boulevard FAX:920-424-2042
Oshkosh, WI 54901
  http://www.uwosh.edu/facstaff/gutow






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