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I agree with both of you. I would rather have my wife at home taking care of the kids - that's how i was raised and I turned out okay :-), as a kid I can remember a friend of mine whose parents both worked, and he was always getting into trouble after school, even on into adulthood. The ideal situation I suppose is to make it on one income, with the possibility of the other spouse going back to work, if need be. --- John Von Essen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem today is one parent's income can't earn enough to support the other stay-at-home parent + 2 cars + home + expenses from 2 kids and so on. On Apr 3, 2004, at 6:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call me old fashioned, but I think one parent should be dedicated to raising kids. Single/Young married people plan with both incomes, therefore, can't make the choice to raise their kids when the time comes. = Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.apwebdesign.com Instant Messengers: 1) yahoo im: apwebdesign 2) aol im: apwebdesignxl 3) msn im: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) icq im: 659139 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/
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John == John Von Essen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John The problem today is one parent's income can't earn enough to support John the other stay-at-home parent + 2 cars + home + expenses from 2 John kids and so on. Ahh, the american dream, cranked to 11. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!
Re: 94!
On Sat, 3 Apr 2004, Steve Lane wrote: i've pretty much decided that if i want a job posted to this list, i need to find a way to move to CA or the DC/Boston corridor and -then- apply. i wonder if that's accurate. has anyone else here lived in a non-top-50 metro area in the US, and found a well-paying Perl job? I do freelance consulting work for a number of clients, of whom only a few are local to the Twin Cities, MN area where I live. -dave /*=== House Absolute Consulting www.houseabsolute.com ===*/
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The bay area was one of the hardest hit errors with the bust, however, I'm seeing more and more jobs creeping up, so if you can stick it out another year or so, I think things will be starting to swing again here. If you move out of the bay area to an affordable area, you're pretty much limited to telecommuting only to get the tech jobs, at least that's my opinion. --- Steve Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: interesting. i'm seeing my only chance of making a good living with Perl as moving -to- the Bay Area, or another city that has good Perl jobs. i live in Johnson City, TN. i was able to make a living doing Perl from 1997 - 2002, and perhaps half a living in 2003, and may be able to resume making a living in this area shortly. but i've found that although there are indeed tons of good-looking job postings lately, it's been nearly impossible for me to get interest from HR directors who staff those jobs, because i live so far away from the jobs' cities. in one particular case, i thought i was going to get a high-profile and very-well-paying job in Silicon Valley. during and after a phone interview for the job, i was told that hundreds of people had applied for it, that i was in the final group (something like that; the top ten people), and that i could expect a plane trip out for the face interview. after a call from the HR director saying that i would be getting an email with a schedule of a few more phone interviews, i didn't hear anything for a couple of weeks. i emailed the person who had originally interviewed me to ask what was up. they said that while i was qualified, the company had decided to focus only on local candidates, because there were so many of them. i firmly believe that if i lived in the Bay Area, i would have gotten that job. i've pretty much decided that if i want a job posted to this list, i need to find a way to move to CA or the DC/Boston corridor and -then- apply. i wonder if that's accurate. has anyone else here lived in a non-top-50 metro area in the US, and found a well-paying Perl job? (i'm also getting more-than-annoyed at hirers who say they're going to contact me in a few days or in a week and don't. but i guess that's part of the game.) -- Steve Wiggins d'Anconia wrote: Or move out of the bay area Anthony Ettinger wrote: That's my biggest problem. I'm on a single income, I get paid well now, and could afford mortgage payments a house in the south bay area (although it would take most of the income). But I'm afraid if I loose a job, I will not be able to find one in IT locally that pays as well. The last few years, I've worked at 3 jobs, one high paying job during the boom, then about 44% of that during the bust. Now I make 117% of my original dotcom salary. If I loose my job tomorrow, who knows what the heck I'll be making at the next job. My dad worked for IBM for 26 years, talk about job security. My only solution is to find a woman who makes roughly the same so we can support each other when one of us it out of work, or to start my own business and hopefully make the same amount of money at it. --- John Von Essen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The scary thing is with the low interest rates, home values are sky-rocketing, while salaries are staying the same and even shrinking. In some areas it is becoming very difficult to make a decent living in IT field - not to mention zero job security. -- Steve Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.apwebdesign.com Instant Messengers: 1) yahoo im: apwebdesign 2) aol im: apwebdesignxl 3) msn im: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) icq im: 659139 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/
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Anthony Ettinger wrote: If you move out of the bay area to an affordable area, you're pretty much limited to telecommuting only to get the tech jobs, at least that's my opinion. unless you live in New Jersey and work in New York, NYC being the motherlode of Perl work AFAIK. -- Terrence Brannon Drexel Student ID: 10734450
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well, ain't that a bitch. I just got fired tonight. I swear man, this industry is so friggin' flaky. --- Terrence Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger wrote: If you move out of the bay area to an affordable area, you're pretty much limited to telecommuting only to get the tech jobs, at least that's my opinion. unless you live in New Jersey and work in New York, NYC being the motherlode of Perl work AFAIK. -- Terrence Brannon Drexel Student ID: 10734450 = Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.apwebdesign.com Instant Messengers: 1) yahoo im: apwebdesign 2) aol im: apwebdesignxl 3) msn im: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) icq im: 659139 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/
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I just want to say one word to you - just one word - Plastics On Apr 4, 2004, at 9:56 PM, Anthony Ettinger wrote: well, ain't that a bitch. I just got fired tonight. I swear man, this industry is so friggin' flaky. --- Terrence Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger wrote: If you move out of the bay area to an affordable area, you're pretty much limited to telecommuting only to get the tech jobs, at least that's my opinion. unless you live in New Jersey and work in New York, NYC being the motherlode of Perl work AFAIK. -- Terrence Brannon Drexel Student ID: 10734450 = Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.apwebdesign.com Instant Messengers: 1) yahoo im: apwebdesign 2) aol im: apwebdesignxl 3) msn im: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) icq im: 659139 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/
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Plastics? what like credit cards? --- John Von Essen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to say one word to you - just one word - Plastics On Apr 4, 2004, at 9:56 PM, Anthony Ettinger wrote: well, ain't that a bitch. I just got fired tonight. I swear man, this industry is so friggin' flaky. --- Terrence Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger wrote: If you move out of the bay area to an affordable area, you're pretty much limited to telecommuting only to get the tech jobs, at least that's my opinion. unless you live in New Jersey and work in New York, NYC being the motherlode of Perl work AFAIK. -- Terrence Brannon Drexel Student ID: 10734450 = Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.apwebdesign.com Instant Messengers: 1) yahoo im: apwebdesign 2) aol im: apwebdesignxl 3) msn im: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) icq im: 659139 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ = Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.apwebdesign.com Instant Messengers: 1) yahoo im: apwebdesign 2) aol im: apwebdesignxl 3) msn im: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) icq im: 659139 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/
