Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

2011-08-03 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Tue, 2 Aug 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote:


Not related to this thread on the German forum by any chance?

http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=13269


Yes.

I hope you draw some consolation from the fact that a large number of people 
actually tried to explain things to this guy.


I know that most people aren't like this, but sometimes a few get to your 
nerves. It is not like he was not polite, but writing lengthy explaining 
mails and then receiving total ignorance at the other side is hard for me 
(I have more problems with ignorance than I have with flames and harsh 
language).


The problem is, that after each change and each release I have to handle 
people of the you did silly changes, revert it and especially for minor 
things (In this case he simple needs to enter a valid URL to point to his 
file instead of uploading them to the wiki as attachement).


Which does not mean such discussion are bad in any case. Some discussions 
in the past lead to much better implementations then the original design 
was. But as always this needs the will to understand both views and try to 
find a solution which are improvement for both sides involved.



 Sometimes I'm very discouraged to care for JOSM and I'm not sure if it is
 really worth the effort anymore. Each and every time something new is
 introduced or something is changed you get unacceptable comments and
 flames. Sometimes this can get too much even for me.


In the thread I mentioned above, someone cautioned the complainant to be 
polite when writing to you because you were more important than 50 mappers.


The mass of silently people who actually appreciate my work and that of 
our contributors are the only reason why I do it. Otherwise I would have 
dropped somewhere near release 700 when all this fuss started with the 
virtual nodes implementation.


Ciao
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Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

2011-08-03 Thread Claudius

On 02.08.2011 20:45, Josh Doe:

Thank you for your hard work!


+10

just chiming in here with a big thank you to the whole JOSM team. 
Besides the Happy SysAdmin day we would need a Thank your OSS 
contributor day.
I can only forward the good experience I'm sharing when recommending 
JOSM to OpenStreetMap contributors from all over the world. After a 
short (and constantly becoming shorter) setup and training period they 
can achieve better contributions in shorter time than with the editor 
they used before ;)


Keep it up!

Claudius



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Re: [josm-dev] JOSM donations?

2011-08-03 Thread Pierre Béland
+3  For

- better rendering with MapCSS style inclusion
- JOSM wiki styles and selection of styles from preference menu
- JOSM wiki presets and selection of presets from preference menu

Pierre
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