Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-14 Thread Jo
Hi Vincent,

Now I'm depressed.

My computer also overheats when using JOSM. Do you think you'll implement a
solution for that soon? :-)

I think it has something to do with a large shapefile I converted to GPX.
The whole system becomes sluggish after a while when I enable that.

Incidentally, pressing space bar mitigates the problem of the need to
confirm the presets dialog somewhat. (I was constantly going for the enter
key, but any key will do. I only realised that after reading that cartoon,
so thanks)

Now I'm going to read the rest of those cartoons. The bus stops will have
to wait...

Cheers,

Jo

2014-09-14 1:16 GMT+02:00 Vincent Privat vincent.pri...@gmail.com:


 2014-09-13 13:11 GMT+02:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com:

 OK, sorry for the tone. Simply wanted to convey it was rather annoying and
 totally disrupted my workflow.


 Every change breaks someones workflow:
 http://xkcd.com/1172/


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Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-14 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014, Eric Ladner wrote:


Along this same vein, I have always wondered if it was possible to set
defaults on a preset.  For example, when you click bridge, it shows the
dialog, which is fine, and I don't really mind clicking on ok, but it
would be really nice if the dialog defaulted to bridge=yes and layer=1 (the
most common, IMO - four clicks to set, otherwise).

Is that possible as a local configuration?


I already said in last mail, that this works perfectly fine and even there 
is a presets there for these purposes:

https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Presets/OneClick

It already contains your example. Simply install and use it instead of the 
normal bridge preset.


The normal dialogs with the selection boxes are somewhat more restricted. 
The default values for these are not applied always to not destroy 
previous tag-sets. Full defaults are usually only reachable when applied 
to empty ways/nodes.


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Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-13 Thread Paul Hartmann

On 13.09.2014 10:01, Jo wrote:

Hi,

I created some presets and added toolbar buttons for them to smoothen my
workflow. I downloaded the latest version of JOSM and now a confirmation
dialog appears each and every time.


You may have to modify your one-click presets and remove all elements 
except 'key'. See https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/10499 and 
reopen/discuss if needed.



This is extremely annoying. The buttons
on my toolbar for those presets were really convenient, but pressing OK a
hundreds of times a day is going to take away my willingness to keep
contributing.


There is no reason to get so worked up at this point. If we ignore 
regressions despite reports and don't fix them for the tested version, 
then you may unleash your anger...


Paul

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Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-13 Thread Malcolm Herring
There is a conflict here. There are circumstances where a confirmation 
dialog is wanted by the preset author - this is when there are label 
and/or link that are required to be displayed.


Maybe a solution is to auto-detect this situation - if there are only 
key elements, then the tags are set without confirmation, but if there 
are also label or link elements, then a confirmation is required. 
Maybe also in the item header, a confirm=yes/no/auto parameter might 
be useful.


See http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/10499


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Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-13 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014, Malcolm Herring wrote:

There is a conflict here. There are circumstances where a confirmation dialog 
is wanted by the preset author - this is when there are label and/or link 
that are required to be displayed.


Maybe a solution is to auto-detect this situation - if there are only key 
elements, then the tags are set without confirmation, but if there are also 
label or link elements, then a confirmation is required. Maybe also in 
the item header, a confirm=yes/no/auto parameter might be useful.


See http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/10499


There is no need for any confirm tag. It's very simply: If the preset 
contains anything to display, then it is displayed. If not, then not.


The regression fix in above bug simply is that labels and links erroneous
have been detected as nothing. This is fixed now again as it was before.

One-Click presets are there since 4 years using this method:
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Presets/OneClick

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Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-13 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014, Jo wrote:


I created some presets and added toolbar buttons for them to smoothen my
workflow. I downloaded the latest version of JOSM and now a confirmation
dialog appears each and every time. This is extremely annoying. The buttons
on my toolbar for those presets were really convenient, but pressing OK a
hundreds of times a day is going to take away my willingness to keep
contributing.


You should consider revising the tone you use in writing your mails.

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Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-13 Thread Jo
OK, sorry for the tone. Simply wanted to convey it was rather annoying and
totally disrupted my workflow.

I prepare data with tags that will be removed automatically upon upload,
created a MAPCSS style which makes them clearly visible and a preset to
take away those tags, as in a todo list. I'm adding thousands of bus stops,
but I want to vet each and every one of them to make sure they are in the
right place.

Thanks for all the good work on JOSM.

Jo

2014-09-13 11:57 GMT+02:00 Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de:

 On Sat, 13 Sep 2014, Jo wrote:

  I created some presets and added toolbar buttons for them to smoothen my
 workflow. I downloaded the latest version of JOSM and now a confirmation
 dialog appears each and every time. This is extremely annoying. The
 buttons
 on my toolbar for those presets were really convenient, but pressing OK a
 hundreds of times a day is going to take away my willingness to keep
 contributing.


 You should consider revising the tone you use in writing your mails.


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Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-13 Thread Eric Ladner
Along this same vein, I have always wondered if it was possible to set
defaults on a preset.  For example, when you click bridge, it shows the
dialog, which is fine, and I don't really mind clicking on ok, but it
would be really nice if the dialog defaulted to bridge=yes and layer=1 (the
most common, IMO - four clicks to set, otherwise).

Is that possible as a local configuration?

Thanks,

Eric

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, sorry for the tone. Simply wanted to convey it was rather annoying and
 totally disrupted my workflow.

 I prepare data with tags that will be removed automatically upon upload,
 created a MAPCSS style which makes them clearly visible and a preset to
 take away those tags, as in a todo list. I'm adding thousands of bus stops,
 but I want to vet each and every one of them to make sure they are in the
 right place.

 Thanks for all the good work on JOSM.

 Jo

 2014-09-13 11:57 GMT+02:00 Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de:

  On Sat, 13 Sep 2014, Jo wrote:
 
   I created some presets and added toolbar buttons for them to smoothen my
  workflow. I downloaded the latest version of JOSM and now a confirmation
  dialog appears each and every time. This is extremely annoying. The
  buttons
  on my toolbar for those presets were really convenient, but pressing OK
 a
  hundreds of times a day is going to take away my willingness to keep
  contributing.
 
 
  You should consider revising the tone you use in writing your mails.
 
 
  Ciao
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Re: [josm-dev] new confirmation dialog for presets

2014-09-13 Thread Vincent Privat
2014-09-13 13:11 GMT+02:00 Jo winfi...@gmail.com:

 OK, sorry for the tone. Simply wanted to convey it was rather annoying and
 totally disrupted my workflow.


Every change breaks someones workflow:
http://xkcd.com/1172/
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