Re: [jquery-dev] Re: Will the live() method be improved in 1.4?

2009-11-07 Thread John Resig
I've already landed the commits - looks great - thanks! (I'll close
the ticket once my network stops flaking out.)

--John



On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Robert Katić robert.ka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I opened a ticket: http://dev.jquery.com/ticket/5470
 with link on commit.

 Commit also includes context inside liveHandler (it is a too small
 change to make a separate commit).

 Component is unfiled. Please tell me if I made mistakes opening this
 ticket.

 On Nov 6, 3:01 pm, John Resig jere...@gmail.com wrote:
  1. Calling closest, context argument still is not used.
  I was unable to find the proper ticket. Would I open one?

  2. Storing how much a parent is close to an element with data API is
  an big overhead. An jQuery.lastCloser or something similar would be
  enough. Also it would speed up sorting inside liveHandler with
  somethin like this:

  ...
        elems.push({ elem: elem, fn: fn, closer: jQuery.lastCloser });
  
   elems.sort(function( a, b ) {
     return a.closer - b.closer;
   });

 I'd appreciate tickets/patches for both of these - they both sound
 like great additions.

 --John

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Re: [jquery-dev] Re: Will the live() method be improved in 1.4?

2009-11-05 Thread Robert Katić
Meyer, delegate was my first candidate too but I was worry that it  
was overused :). Seams that I was wrong. Will update it with  
delegate ASAP.

--Robert

On 6. stu. 2009., at 02:42, Justin Meyer justinbme...@gmail.com wrote:

 How about $(#something).delegate(.thing,click, func).

 It almost makes too much sense :).

 On Nov 5, 6:31 pm, Robert Katić robert.ka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder why there would be an $.live with document as the only
 interesting context.

 Something like

   $(document).zombi(selector, type, ...)

 would be more flexible (I know, zombi is not nice, but I have no
 inspirations about a more suitable name).

 To avoid to repeat selector on multiple bindings, I suggest something
 like:

   $(document).make(selector)
 .zombi(type, ...)
 .zombi(type, ...)

 An possible implementation of that:http://gist.github.com/227508

 Maybe this is only a silly idea for majority of users (now), but I am
 really of idea that this have even more sense then the current
 $.fn.live.

 On Nov 5, 2:44 am, xwisdom xwis...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hello,

 Just wondering if version 1.4 will include improvements to live()
 events.

 See example here:http://www.zachleat.com/web/2009/05/08/ 
 performance-caveat-with-jquery...

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Re: [jquery-dev] Re: Will the live() method be improved in 1.4?

2009-11-05 Thread John Resig
 Also, @robert, my solution supports the following notation, similar to
 yours but using the familiar jQuery syntax (before/after DOMReady):
 $.live(#mySelector, click, fn1)
  .live(#mySelector, mouseover, fn2)
  ...;

I understand the logic behind you wanting a $.live method (for the
edge cases where, presumably, you have hundreds or thousands of
elements that you're trying to match - and you don't want to run the
initial selector). Although there's a lot that I don't like about it:
 - You are now passing in a selector to a non $(...) or .foo() method.
This goes against all the conventions that the library has - when you
interact with DOM elements, stay within the jQuery set.
 - The only case where this matters is in a fringe case (namely, only
when you use both a complicated selector AND run it in IE  8, since
all other browsers are using querySelectorAll) - but the existence of
the method in jQuery would remove the need to ever use the one method
that everyone should use.
 - Presumably since you're in a situation where you're really caring
about performance - then why are you using .live to begin with?
Shouldn't you be binding lower in the document? This is why the
closest method was added, to make tasks like this even easier.

I would simply recommend: If you're in a situation where you're
starting with a critical number of elements on your page, enough to
ruin your pages' overall performance, then you should use a basic form
of event delegation, like so:

$(#someRootTable).click(function(e){
  $(e.target).closest(td.foo).each(function(){
// Your code goes here.
  });
});

Which is really what you should be doing anyway (live method or not).

--John

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Re: [jquery-dev] Re: Will the live() method be improved in 1.4?

2009-11-05 Thread Nik Pasaran
What about something like this:

$.live = function(selector, type, callback) {
$.fn.live.call({ selector: selector }, type, callback);
}


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:13 AM, xwisdom xwis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi John,

 Thanks for the quick feedback

 IMO, I think it would be handy to have something like $.live as I can
 see where it would be of great benefit when working with a lot of
 elements.

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Re: [jquery-dev] Re: Will the live() method be improved in 1.4?

2009-11-05 Thread Robert Katić
$(#someRootTable).delegate(td.foo, click, function(e){
// Your code goes here.
});

Would be easer and safer because the event will be handlet only by  
td.foo elements inside #someRootTable.

--Robert

On 6. stu. 2009., at 04:56, John Resig jere...@gmail.com wrote:

 $(#someRootTable).click(function(e){
  $(e.target).closest(td.foo).each(function(){
// Your code goes here.
  });
 });

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Re: [jquery-dev] Re: Will the live() method be improved in 1.4?

2009-11-05 Thread John Resig
If you want to limit, just do this (using the nightlies):

$(#someRootTable).click(function(e){
  $(e.target).closest(td.foo, this).each(function(){
 // Your code goes here.
  });
});

Still pretty simple and requires no additional functionality. I may
just write this up as an example and add it to the live and closest
docs.

--John



On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Robert Katić robert.ka...@gmail.com wrote:
 $(#someRootTable).delegate(td.foo, click, function(e){
    // Your code goes here.
 });
 Would be easer and safer because the event will be handlet only by td.foo
 elements inside #someRootTable.

 --Robert
 On 6. stu. 2009., at 04:56, John Resig jere...@gmail.com wrote:

 $(#someRootTable).click(function(e){
  $(e.target).closest(td.foo).each(function(){
    // Your code goes here.
  });
 });

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Re: [jquery-dev] Re: Will the live() method be improved in 1.4?

2009-11-05 Thread Robert Katić
I suppose you will need an return false; too at the end of the  
handler...

--Robert

On 6. stu. 2009., at 05:29, John Resig jere...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you want to limit, just do this (using the nightlies):

 $(#someRootTable).click(function(e){
  $(e.target).closest(td.foo, this).each(function(){
 // Your code goes here.
  });
 });

 Still pretty simple and requires no additional functionality. I may
 just write this up as an example and add it to the live and closest
 docs.

 --John



 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Robert Katić robert.ka...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 $(#someRootTable).delegate(td.foo, click, function(e){
// Your code goes here.
 });
 Would be easer and safer because the event will be handlet only by  
 td.foo
 elements inside #someRootTable.

 --Robert
 On 6. stu. 2009., at 04:56, John Resig jere...@gmail.com wrote:

 $(#someRootTable).click(function(e){
  $(e.target).closest(td.foo).each(function(){
// Your code goes here.
  });
 });

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Re: [jquery-dev] Re: Will the live() method be improved in 1.4?

2009-11-05 Thread Robert Katić
No you will not. My Mistake

--Robert

On 6. stu. 2009., at 05:29, John Resig jere...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you want to limit, just do this (using the nightlies):

 $(#someRootTable).click(function(e){
  $(e.target).closest(td.foo, this).each(function(){
 // Your code goes here.
  });
 });

 Still pretty simple and requires no additional functionality. I may
 just write this up as an example and add it to the live and closest
 docs.

 --John



 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Robert Katić robert.ka...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 $(#someRootTable).delegate(td.foo, click, function(e){
// Your code goes here.
 });
 Would be easer and safer because the event will be handlet only by  
 td.foo
 elements inside #someRootTable.

 --Robert
 On 6. stu. 2009., at 04:56, John Resig jere...@gmail.com wrote:

 $(#someRootTable).click(function(e){
  $(e.target).closest(td.foo).each(function(){
// Your code goes here.
  });
 });

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