[ann] WebWork 1.0 released

2002-03-22 Thread Rickard

Short version:
WebWork 1.0 has been released. If you're into building web apps in Java
you need to check it out. End of story. Go here and download ASAP:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/webwork

Slighly longer version:
I'm proud to announce the release of WebWork 1.0! WebWork is a HMVC web
application framework in Java, developed as Open Source (BSD license)
and designed to help create dynamic websites using minimal effort and
maximum flexibility. It's architecture is easy to learn and understand,
yet has features that allow for complex applications to be built.

One of the main features is it's total separation between the controller
and view aspects of an application, thus allowing for a multitude of
view technologies to be utilized. Out of the box WebWork has support for
JSP (and comes with an extensive tag library that covers most needs),
XSLT, and the template engine Velocity. Adding support for more such
tools is very easy (the Velocity integration was done in hours),
allowing you to have maximum flexibility with regard to how you
structure your application.

You also get to choose whether you want to use a Model-1 or Model-2
approach to building applications, although we'd recommend using both as
is described in our comprehensive documentation that includes reference
sheets (for the tag library and expression language) and many useful
tipstricks sections.

WebWork comes with a comprehensive set of examples that are both used to
test the functionality of the framework, as well as showcase how it can
be used. Many examples are conversions from other frameworks (such as
Struts) so that you can see firsthand how WebWork differs from the rest
of the crowd.

One of the most important tasks when working with frameworks like this
is the configuration step, which is where Java classes are mapped to
logical names (used for invocation) and where the connection between
controller and view (such as a JSP or Velocity template) is made. This
configuration can be done manually, but to ease this process there is an
XDoclet extension available (through the XDoclet project, see
http://xdoclet.sourceforge.net) that will allow you to specify all such
configuration directly in your Java code using custom WebWork-specific
JavaDoc tags.
XDoclet is also used to generate HTML documentation of your application,
which helps to serve as a
communication channel between the Java developer and web designer (if
those roles are separated into
several team members).

There are a multitude of other unique and interesting features that we
are very excited about, but we'd encourage you to download and find out
about those yourself. So get it now from:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=14797

Documentation can be found in the download, or online at:
http://213.203.18.31/

We encourage you to try WebWork together with the wonderful SiteMesh
(http://www.opensymphony.com) and XDoclet tools, a combination which can
give you an amazing productivity and clean application architeture.

This is an OpenSource project, developed using an open development
process, and is hosted by SourceForge. If you have any questions we
recommend the user mailing list, and if you have suggestions for
improvements we're all ears on the development mailing list, both of
which can be found on the project homepage at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/webwork

If you are attending JavaOne this year, then you might want to stop by
our WebWork developer meeting on Wednesday March 27, 6.30pm at Fourth
street Bar  Deli (across from the Metreon). See ya there :-)

/Rickard Öberg, WebWork project manager

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Re: [ann] WebWork 1.0 released

2002-03-22 Thread Rickard Öberg

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:26:40 -0500, M. Simms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why would this be better than STRUTS which has taken about 10 man years of
effort and the expertise of many heavyweights to build and debug ?

Somehow the above argument is not quite logical. The amount of man years or expertise 
of heavyweights means nothing if the basic foundation is bad.

But sure, if you want to play that game WW has approximately 10 man years of effort 
put into it as well (10 registered developers, plus patch submissions from about 10 
more, 1 year of development), and being a lead developer on both JBoss and XDoclet I 
wouldn't consider myself lightweight exactly.

But this is a nonsensical argument. I would encourage you download it and take a look 
at the examples and documentation before passing any swift judgments. You might 
actually like it ;-)

/Rickard

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Re: [ann] WebWork 1.0 released

2002-03-22 Thread Rickard Öberg

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:09:14 -0600, Haseltine, Celeste

I have not seen WebWork, but to answer your question, Struts is a very heavy
framework in that the Jakarta tag libraries are very tightly integrated into
the MVC architecture portion of Struts.  For those of us who use JSP tag
libraries that either come with our Servlet containers, or choose to use
other tag libraries than those bundled with Struts, then Struts is not a
good option.  Since I prefer to use the tag libraries that come bundled with
my JSP/Servlet container, I need a stand alone MVC architecture, that I
can integrate my servlet containers tag libraries into.  If WebWork is such
a stand alone MVC architecture, then it is one I would consider using over
Struts.

I certainly think you'd be able to use MVC given the above. The main point of 
integration between the WebWork servlet dispatcher (if you choose the Model-2 mode 
that is) is the value stack that holds the objects that can be rendered in the view 
(e.g. JSP). You can access this stack from the request object directly, or bind the 
action that was executed to a request attribute by wrapping your code with the 
following:
webwork:property value=. id=action

.. your JSP code goes here. The attribute action holds the action object:
%=((MyAction)request.getAttribute(action)).getFoo()%

/webwork:property

Is that good enough?

We certainly do recommend that you use the provided tag library to access the data, 
but if you want to use your own tags there's a multitude of ways to accomplish that, 
depending on your particular scenario.

/Rickard

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Re: [ann] WebWork 1.0 released

2002-03-22 Thread Rickard Öberg

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:32:47 -0500, M. Simms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I certainly will !
I was just testing to see how passionate you guys were about this
effort
and you passed the test.
I was not going to waste my time if there was little or no response.

LOL, good one ;-) Well, I most certainly wouldn't want you to waste time, and it is my 
firm belief that this isn't once of those.

A lightweight STRUTs is certainly an excellent idea...and whose time has
come.

Amen to that!

(Why didn't Sun think of that ?)

Because lightweight sun is an oxymoron?

;-)

/Rickard

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JSP as a resource

2000-11-16 Thread Rickard Öberg

I have a servlet that wants to output the result of a JSP page, but the
JSP is not available as a regular page but as a resource in the JAR of
the servlet (which resides in /WEB-INF/lib).

Is it possible for the servlet to retrieve the contents of the packaged
JSP page, and somehow send it to JSP for compilation and output the
result. Or do I have to unpackage the page so that it is available the
usual way?

/Rickard

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jsp:include and path info

2000-11-11 Thread Rickard Oberg

Hi!

I am fiddling with a Model-2 framework (yeah, yet another one). It is going
well except for one thing. I have decided to give the action name as extra
path info to the servlet, like this (where "action" has been mapped to my
dispatcher servlet):
/servlet/action/DoStuff?foo=bar
i.e. invoke DoStuff action with foo parameter set to bar. So far so good.

However, in the JSP that is delegated to after DoStuff execution I have a
jsp:include that can either point to another action or to another plain jsp,
like this:
jsp:include page="/servlet/action/OtherStuff" flush="true"/
or simply:
jsp:include page="somepage.jsp" flush="true"/

However, it seems like this is invoked with the servlet set to
"/servlet/action" and the path info to "DoStuff", i.e. the original info.

So, is it possible to call subpages like this? How do I do to get the right
path info propagated?

Or, do I have to change to a parameter based scheme:
/servlet/action?action=DoStuff

This works, but is uglier...

Any ideas?

regards,
  Rickard

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