RE: [jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re: [jug- discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Lesiecki Nicholas
I got a TiBook for 3000 with an Airport base station and a Copy of Office
for Mac. Without those the price was like, $2400.

Very sweet.

Cheers,

Nick
--- Jon Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Wow... only $1800 for a maxed out iBook that is in my budget.
 
 Dude I am getting a MAC!
 
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 From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:58 AM
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 You could go with one of the new iBook 14.1, mine is slower and 
 smaller screen, but I love it (you'll love yours too ;-). But, it 
 really depends on how long you plan on keeping it (I have been using 
 mine for over a year). If you plan on keeping it 3+ years and still 
 getting good use out of it I would opt for the Ti if at all possible, 
 if not get the best iBook you can afford (max ram, max hd, best 
 processor, airport, combo drive), looks like about $1800.
 
 -warner
 
 On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 09:41 AM, Rick Hightower wrote:
 
  Okay... I now have a Sony Vaio and it is a 1 1/2 years old and it was 
  not
  top of the line when it was bought. I think it is a Pentium 3. And it 
  has a
  gig of memory. The HD is slow.
 
  How much would a Mac cost that is equivelant or better performance? I 
  need a
  laptop not a desktop. I want OS X (the latest dot 2 I think).
 
  I want to switch, but $3K on a titanium seems a little too much for my
  current budget. Plus there is no way my work will pay for it
 
  Can I just volunteer to be on one of their comercials? :o)
 
  Actually, I think that is how Jon got his. ;o)
 
  Rick Hightower
 
 
 
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  From: Jon Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question
 
 
  The way it works is simeple.  As soon as you buy one a new line will 
  come
  out and yours will be absolete.  But I do love my 800mhz g4, SINGLE
  PROCESSOR (g)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com]
  Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:09 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question
 
  Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's
  (typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop
  and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my 
  guess
  would be either the iBook or Titanium. The next expo is in January 
  (may
  actually be able to make one finally ;-), where they will no doubt
  announce new systems. The new 14.1 iBook was introduced 5/2002, along
  with an updated Titanium as well so it is hard to say exactly when 
  they
  will announce new laptops, it probably won't be in January but you
  never know.
 
  Lawson probably has a better feel for this however.
 
  -warner
 
  On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:
 
  I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts 
  on
  this list.
 
  My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
  portable.
 
  Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
  high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another
  month?
  Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?
 
  Thanks -- Randy
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Art Gramlich
The think with macs is that just after you buy one they will release
something better :-).  As long as the one you get works for what you need,
it's not really a problem. Right Jon?

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On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 08:08 AM, Warner Onstine wrote:

 Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's  
 (typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop  
 and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my  
 guess would be either the iBook or Titanium. The next expo is in  
 January (may actually be able to make one finally ;-), where they will  
 no doubt announce new systems. The new 14.1 iBook was introduced  
 5/2002, along with an updated Titanium as well so it is hard to say  
 exactly when they will announce new laptops, it probably won't be in  
 January but you never know.

Oops, it was actually 1/2002 (they released a minor update to the  
hardware in 5/2002), read the wrong document. Some people are expecting  
g5 announcements at this Macworld, after this article on slashdot:
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/14/ 
158211mode=threadtid=126 .


 Lawson probably has a better feel for this however.

 -warner

 On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:

 I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts on
 this list.

 My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
 portable.

 Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
 high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another  
 month?
 Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?

 Thanks -- Randy





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[jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Randolph S. Kahle
I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts on
this list.

My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
portable.

Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another month?
Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?

Thanks -- Randy





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RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Jon Thomas
The way it works is simeple.  As soon as you buy one a new line will come
out and yours will be absolete.  But I do love my 800mhz g4, SINGLE
PROCESSOR (g)

-Original Message-
From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's 
(typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop 
and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my guess 
would be either the iBook or Titanium. The next expo is in January (may 
actually be able to make one finally ;-), where they will no doubt 
announce new systems. The new 14.1 iBook was introduced 5/2002, along 
with an updated Titanium as well so it is hard to say exactly when they 
will announce new laptops, it probably won't be in January but you 
never know.

Lawson probably has a better feel for this however.

-warner

On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:

 I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts on
 this list.

 My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
 portable.

 Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
 high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another 
 month?
 Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?

 Thanks -- Randy





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RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Randolph S. Kahle
On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 09:33, Jon Thomas wrote:
 The way it works is simeple.  As soon as you buy one a new line will come
 out and yours will be absolete.  But I do love my 800mhz g4, SINGLE
 PROCESSOR (g)
 

If you find that fast enough, then it may be worth getting that now.
This is his first step into the Apple camp. He would be running Jaguar
and wants to do normal office automation stuff, email, photo editing,
etc.

For this use, you think it is fine?

Randy


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[jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Rick Hightower
Okay... I now have a Sony Vaio and it is a 1 1/2 years old and it was not
top of the line when it was bought. I think it is a Pentium 3. And it has a
gig of memory. The HD is slow.

How much would a Mac cost that is equivelant or better performance? I need a
laptop not a desktop. I want OS X (the latest dot 2 I think).

I want to switch, but $3K on a titanium seems a little too much for my
current budget. Plus there is no way my work will pay for it

Can I just volunteer to be on one of their comercials? :o)

Actually, I think that is how Jon got his. ;o)

Rick Hightower



- Original Message -
From: Jon Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question


 The way it works is simeple.  As soon as you buy one a new line will come
 out and yours will be absolete.  But I do love my 800mhz g4, SINGLE
 PROCESSOR (g)

 -Original Message-
 From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

 Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's
 (typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop
 and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my guess
 would be either the iBook or Titanium. The next expo is in January (may
 actually be able to make one finally ;-), where they will no doubt
 announce new systems. The new 14.1 iBook was introduced 5/2002, along
 with an updated Titanium as well so it is hard to say exactly when they
 will announce new laptops, it probably won't be in January but you
 never know.

 Lawson probably has a better feel for this however.

 -warner

 On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:

  I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts on
  this list.
 
  My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
  portable.
 
  Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
  high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another
  month?
  Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?
 
  Thanks -- Randy
 
 
 
 
 
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[jug-discussion] new BrainBench tests

2002-10-18 Thread Rick Hightower



There are two new BrainBench tests: J2EE and EJB 
2.0 CMP.
The EJB 2.0 has a lot of questions on MDB and EJB 
CMP CMR.
I took them last night. The EJB 2.0 test was a 
lot easier than the EJB 1.1 test.

The J2EE test was really hard, and I thought I 
bombed it, but I did okay.



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OfficerLearning Patterns Corp. http://learningpatterns.comDirect: 
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Re: [jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Warner Onstine
You could go with one of the new iBook 14.1, mine is slower and 
smaller screen, but I love it (you'll love yours too ;-). But, it 
really depends on how long you plan on keeping it (I have been using 
mine for over a year). If you plan on keeping it 3+ years and still 
getting good use out of it I would opt for the Ti if at all possible, 
if not get the best iBook you can afford (max ram, max hd, best 
processor, airport, combo drive), looks like about $1800.

-warner

On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 09:41 AM, Rick Hightower wrote:

Okay... I now have a Sony Vaio and it is a 1 1/2 years old and it was 
not
top of the line when it was bought. I think it is a Pentium 3. And it 
has a
gig of memory. The HD is slow.

How much would a Mac cost that is equivelant or better performance? I 
need a
laptop not a desktop. I want OS X (the latest dot 2 I think).

I want to switch, but $3K on a titanium seems a little too much for my
current budget. Plus there is no way my work will pay for it

Can I just volunteer to be on one of their comercials? :o)

Actually, I think that is how Jon got his. ;o)

Rick Hightower



- Original Message -
From: Jon Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question


The way it works is simeple.  As soon as you buy one a new line will 
come
out and yours will be absolete.  But I do love my 800mhz g4, SINGLE
PROCESSOR (g)

-Original Message-
From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's
(typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop
and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my 
guess
would be either the iBook or Titanium. The next expo is in January 
(may
actually be able to make one finally ;-), where they will no doubt
announce new systems. The new 14.1 iBook was introduced 5/2002, along
with an updated Titanium as well so it is hard to say exactly when 
they
will announce new laptops, it probably won't be in January but you
never know.

Lawson probably has a better feel for this however.

-warner

On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:

I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts 
on
this list.

My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
portable.

Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another
month?
Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?

Thanks -- Randy





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RE: [jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Jon Thomas
Expect to pay $4500 to $5000 and you will get all you could want


-Original Message-
From: Rick Hightower [mailto:rhightower;triveratech.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re:
[jug-discussion] Mac question

Okay... I now have a Sony Vaio and it is a 1 1/2 years old and it was not
top of the line when it was bought. I think it is a Pentium 3. And it has a
gig of memory. The HD is slow.

How much would a Mac cost that is equivelant or better performance? I need a
laptop not a desktop. I want OS X (the latest dot 2 I think).

I want to switch, but $3K on a titanium seems a little too much for my
current budget. Plus there is no way my work will pay for it

Can I just volunteer to be on one of their comercials? :o)

Actually, I think that is how Jon got his. ;o)

Rick Hightower



- Original Message -
From: Jon Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question


 The way it works is simeple.  As soon as you buy one a new line will come
 out and yours will be absolete.  But I do love my 800mhz g4, SINGLE
 PROCESSOR (g)

 -Original Message-
 From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

 Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's
 (typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop
 and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my guess
 would be either the iBook or Titanium. The next expo is in January (may
 actually be able to make one finally ;-), where they will no doubt
 announce new systems. The new 14.1 iBook was introduced 5/2002, along
 with an updated Titanium as well so it is hard to say exactly when they
 will announce new laptops, it probably won't be in January but you
 never know.

 Lawson probably has a better feel for this however.

 -warner

 On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:

  I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts on
  this list.
 
  My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
  portable.
 
  Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
  high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another
  month?
  Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?
 
  Thanks -- Randy
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Rick Hightower
Come on that much... really? You are pulling my chain.
Forget it... I'd rather spend that money as a down payment on a sports
car... I am thinking MR2.


Hi... I am Jon... and I am a Java Developer... I switched to Mac.

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Expect to pay $4500 to $5000 and you will get all you could want


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From: Rick Hightower [mailto:rhightower;triveratech.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [jug-discussion] Price to replace my current laptop Re:
[jug-discussion] Mac question

Okay... I now have a Sony Vaio and it is a 1 1/2 years old and it was not
top of the line when it was bought. I think it is a Pentium 3. And it has a
gig of memory. The HD is slow.

How much would a Mac cost that is equivelant or better performance? I need a
laptop not a desktop. I want OS X (the latest dot 2 I think).

I want to switch, but $3K on a titanium seems a little too much for my
current budget. Plus there is no way my work will pay for it

Can I just volunteer to be on one of their comercials? :o)

Actually, I think that is how Jon got his. ;o)

Rick Hightower



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From: Jon Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [jug-discussion] Mac question


 The way it works is simeple.  As soon as you buy one a new line will come
 out and yours will be absolete.  But I do love my 800mhz g4, SINGLE
 PROCESSOR (g)

 -Original Message-
 From: Warner Onstine [mailto:warner;warneronstine.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:09 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

 Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's
 (typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop
 and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my guess
 would be either the iBook or Titanium. The next expo is in January (may
 actually be able to make one finally ;-), where they will no doubt
 announce new systems. The new 14.1 iBook was introduced 5/2002, along
 with an updated Titanium as well so it is hard to say exactly when they
 will announce new laptops, it probably won't be in January but you
 never know.

 Lawson probably has a better feel for this however.

 -warner

 On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:

  I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts on
  this list.
 
  My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
  portable.
 
  Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
  high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another
  month?
  Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?
 
  Thanks -- Randy
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [jug-discussion] Mac question

2002-10-18 Thread Warner Onstine

On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 08:08 AM, Warner Onstine wrote:


Typically they announce new products at the different MacWorld's  
(typically). Another thing that they also do is switch between desktop  
and laptop, since they just announced the new dual g4 desktops my  
guess would be either the iBook or Titanium. The next expo is in  
January (may actually be able to make one finally ;-), where they will  
no doubt announce new systems. The new 14.1 iBook was introduced  
5/2002, along with an updated Titanium as well so it is hard to say  
exactly when they will announce new laptops, it probably won't be in  
January but you never know.

Oops, it was actually 1/2002 (they released a minor update to the  
hardware in 5/2002), read the wrong document. Some people are expecting  
g5 announcements at this Macworld, after this article on slashdot:
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/14/ 
158211mode=threadtid=126 .


Lawson probably has a better feel for this however.

-warner

On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 07:29 AM, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:


I know this is off-topic, but there seem to be a lot of Mac experts on
this list.

My father just sold his IBM portable and wants to switch to a Mac
portable.

Does anyone know about the product cycle from Apple? If he buys a
high-end portable today will they bring out new models in another  
month?
Is there a regular time of the year that Apple introduces products?

Thanks -- Randy





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