Re: conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:49 AM Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Developers will love this, the ability to spin up k8s in multi-node mode
on a laptop is fantastic!
I wonder if it's worth providing a page of instructions for the sysctl
changes built-in to conjure-up?
Currently within the UI the user is able to press 'r' and display the
spells readme which would have that information in there.
We should aim to have the thing we socialize be one command ("conjure-up
canonical-kubernetes") and not a URL to a page with instructions.
Ideally, conjure-up would be able to detect the status of the machine,
tell the user how to adjust, and block until these changes have been
actioned (or do them for the user with approval).
We've talked about this before and I've created an issue to track
https://github.com/conjure-up/conjure-up/issues/507 . Ultimately, we don't
want to have to make any modifications to the user's host system to get big
software deployed within localhost cloud type.
Either one of these suggestions is doable and I'll keep the bug updated
with what we come up with.
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Re: conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
Wait, wouldn't this require juju to have an "mesos" provider, so juju can request lxc containers from mesos? I've heard something like this mentioned at the Summit, will this become a reality? [that would be awesome!] We want support for Docker containers because: - A lot devs we work with create their prototypes in docker - There are a bunch of useful docker containers with stuff that isn't charmed yet We want Kubernetes because: - Auto scaling - Auto failure recovery - It has a future beyond Docker - The Charms are officially supported by Canonical (hence Kubernetes > Mesos) 2016-11-18 10:41 GMT+01:00 Tom Barber : > What you want Merlijn is LXC on Apache Mesos so you can provision a Mesos > cluster on MAAS and then provision Juju Charms into LXC on the infinitely > scalable cluster! Docker is cool but until it releases the proper > orchestration stuff, it comes a poor second to deploying workloads with > Juju ;) > > That's not a slight at the great work Adam, Chuck and co are doing, but > feedback I got from people at the Pentaho User meetup last weekend and > ApacheCon this week who all get 'stuck' with Docker once the convenience > factor has gone away. Anyway, I digress Amazing getting proper Docker > running on LXD as well. > > Tom > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Mark Shuttleworth > wrote: > >> On 18/11/16 09:29, Merlijn Sebrechts wrote: >> > Awesome! Does this mean that running a Kubernetes cluster in LXD >> > containers on physical MAAS machines will also work? >> >> Hehe, good question :) >> >> You would need to do some very careful network jiggling to line things >> up across a cluster, but it would be possible. And we'll make it >> out-of-the-box easy over the next six months. >> >> Mark >> >> -- >> Juju mailing list >> Juju@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm >> an/listinfo/juju >> > > > > -- > Tom Barber > CTO Spicule LTD > t...@spicule.co.uk > > http://spicule.co.uk > > GB: +44(0)5603641316 > US: +18448141689 > > > -- Juju mailing list Juju@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju
Re: conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
What you want Merlijn is LXC on Apache Mesos so you can provision a Mesos cluster on MAAS and then provision Juju Charms into LXC on the infinitely scalable cluster! Docker is cool but until it releases the proper orchestration stuff, it comes a poor second to deploying workloads with Juju ;) That's not a slight at the great work Adam, Chuck and co are doing, but feedback I got from people at the Pentaho User meetup last weekend and ApacheCon this week who all get 'stuck' with Docker once the convenience factor has gone away. Anyway, I digress Amazing getting proper Docker running on LXD as well. Tom On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > On 18/11/16 09:29, Merlijn Sebrechts wrote: > > Awesome! Does this mean that running a Kubernetes cluster in LXD > > containers on physical MAAS machines will also work? > > Hehe, good question :) > > You would need to do some very careful network jiggling to line things > up across a cluster, but it would be possible. And we'll make it > out-of-the-box easy over the next six months. > > Mark > > -- > Juju mailing list > Juju@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/juju > -- Tom Barber CTO Spicule LTD t...@spicule.co.uk http://spicule.co.uk GB: +44(0)5603641316 US: +18448141689 -- Juju mailing list Juju@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju
Re: conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
On 18/11/16 09:29, Merlijn Sebrechts wrote: > Awesome! Does this mean that running a Kubernetes cluster in LXD > containers on physical MAAS machines will also work? Hehe, good question :) You would need to do some very careful network jiggling to line things up across a cluster, but it would be possible. And we'll make it out-of-the-box easy over the next six months. Mark -- Juju mailing list Juju@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju
Re: conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
Awesome! Does this mean that running a Kubernetes cluster in LXD containers on physical MAAS machines will also work? 2016-11-18 0:51 GMT+01:00 Adam Stokes : > Just pulled in changes to support deploying The Canonical Distribution of > Kubernetes on the localhost cloud type. > > I've blogged about it here: > > http://blog.astokes.org/conjure-up-canonical-kubernetes-under-lxd-today/ > > Please give it a shot deploy some workloads on it and let us know how it > goes. > > -- > Juju mailing list > Juju@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/juju > > -- Juju mailing list Juju@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju
Re: conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
Developers will love this, the ability to spin up k8s in multi-node mode
on a laptop is fantastic!
I wonder if it's worth providing a page of instructions for the sysctl
changes built-in to conjure-up?
We should aim to have the thing we socialize be one command ("conjure-up
canonical-kubernetes") and not a URL to a page with instructions.
Ideally, conjure-up would be able to detect the status of the machine,
tell the user how to adjust, and block until these changes have been
actioned (or do them for the user with approval).
Thoughts?
Mark
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Re: conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Charles Butler wrote: > This deserves a ton of fanfare. Let's celebrate this win by circulating this > like crazy. > > I've already retweeted this evening and plan on following up again tomorrow > during normal business hours. Great work Stokes on completing this > herculean task. The ~containers team, appreciates the effort that went into > this, and the collaboration across our teams. Indeed, OpenStack, Kubernetes, or Hadoop-Spark Cluster . . . on your laptop. . . in machine containers . . . multi-node . . . same as in the cloud. . . Developers Rejoice! -Antonio > > Go team! > > > > Charles Butler - Juju Charmer > Come see the future of modeling your datacenter: http://jujucharms.com > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Adam Stokes > wrote: >> >> Just pulled in changes to support deploying The Canonical Distribution of >> Kubernetes on the localhost cloud type. >> >> I've blogged about it here: >> >> http://blog.astokes.org/conjure-up-canonical-kubernetes-under-lxd-today/ >> >> Please give it a shot deploy some workloads on it and let us know how it >> goes. > > > > -- > Juju mailing list > Juju@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju > -- Antonio Rosales Ecosystem Engineering Canonical -- Juju mailing list Juju@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju
Re: conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
This deserves a ton of fanfare. Let's celebrate this win by circulating this like crazy. I've already retweeted this evening and plan on following up again tomorrow during normal business hours. Great work Stokes on completing this herculean task. The ~containers team, appreciates the effort that went into this, and the collaboration across our teams. Go team! Charles Butler - Juju Charmer Come see the future of modeling your datacenter: http://jujucharms.com On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Adam Stokes wrote: > Just pulled in changes to support deploying The Canonical Distribution of > Kubernetes on the localhost cloud type. > > I've blogged about it here: > > http://blog.astokes.org/conjure-up-canonical-kubernetes-under-lxd-today/ > > Please give it a shot deploy some workloads on it and let us know how it > goes. > -- Juju mailing list Juju@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju
conjure-up Canonical Kubernetes in LXD
Just pulled in changes to support deploying The Canonical Distribution of Kubernetes on the localhost cloud type. I've blogged about it here: http://blog.astokes.org/conjure-up-canonical-kubernetes-under-lxd-today/ Please give it a shot deploy some workloads on it and let us know how it goes. -- Juju mailing list Juju@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju
