[JPP-Devel] Help needed from english native speakers

2007-06-14 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi,

I'd like to add one or two plugins in the Tools/Analysis menu :
- the first one will use a user-defined attribute to union all features 
in a layer having the same attribute value (that's what is done by the 
dissolve script send by Hisaji a few days ago).
- the second one (or maybe an option of the first one) will merge 
linestring with linemerger instead of unioning (union produce 
multi-linestrings,  linemerger really merge linestrings).

I finished the first part and called it UnionByAttributePlugIn, but I'd 
like that name to be confirmed by one of you english speakers.

Thanks

Michaël



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Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJump speed improvements

2007-06-14 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi Larry,

1 - Sounds good,
2 - Please, could you explain the need to save one task file per layer. 
Isn't one task file enough to save all your selected layers as one 
project. Otherwise, the idea to save a bunch of selected file as one zip 
file sounds quite good.
4 & 6 : Sounds good
5 : Sounds good

Thank you very much to help getting OpenJUMP in sync with SkyJUMP

Michaël

Larry Becker a écrit :

>Thanks to Michaël for implementing the SkyJUMP rendering
>optimizations.  Thanks to his efforts, the nightly build of OJ now
>gets identical redraw benchmark times with SkyJUMP.  :-)
>
>There is still one more area where I think improvements are needed.
>SkyJUMP still opens tasks with many layers (100+) four times faster
>than OpenJump.  Unfortunately, OpenProjectPlugIn is one of the most
>heavily modified classes in SkyJUMP so it might be hard to find the
>specific mod that gave the speed increase (if it was just one).  It
>might be easier to just incorporate all of the mods if everyone agrees
>they are useful.
>
>I'll try to list all of the OpenProjectPlugIn-related SkyJUMP enhancements 
>here:
>
>1. When opening a task or loading datasets, the task monitor dialog
>will now display a cancel button which will stop loading the layers.
>This can be important when you suddenly realize that you opened a task
>larger than memory.
>
>2. The open source personal geodatabase: Added a Create Archive
>feature to the right-click layer tree menu. This will archive all
>selected layers to a zip archive. This archive can then be used to
>transport or back up your project and opened using the new Merge
>Task/Archive menu item on the File menu. When opened in this manner,
>any changes to the layers will be saved to the archive with Save
>Selected Datasets.In order to preserve style information, each
>layer file is accompanied by a task file with the same name as the
>layer file.  This is referred to as a Layer Task.  There may be other
>details involved with this feature if anyone is interested.
>
>4.  Added support for "deferred loading" of layers. When loading a
>task file (.jmp) that contains  layers that are not set to visible,
>loading of the layer into memory is deferred until the layer is set to
>visible.  If many of your layers are only used occasionally, this can
>speed up task loading tremendously.  Note that until made visible, the
>layer behaves like a new empty layer.
>
>5.  Support for Layer Reload. Added a right-click Layer Tree option
>that allows reloading the selected datasets.  This allows you to
>revert your geometry changes without reloading the entire task.  Style
>changes are unaffected.  FID numbers are preserved.  Any open
>attribute views are also refreshed.
>
>6. Related to Deferred Layer Loading:  Modified Open Task so that even
>if layers are not visible (i.e loaded), it will still check to see if
>their path is valid, and prompt to locate it if not. This prevents
>being surprised several months later after you have forgotten where
>the file is.
>
>Comments?
>
>Larry Becker
>  
>


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[JPP-Devel] Java GIS Cooperation

2007-06-14 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I have responded to Jody Garnett's recent post on cooperation among
the members of the open source Java GIS community on my OpenJUMP blog.
Some of you might be interested in reading it since I touch on some
topics that we have discussed on this mailing list recently.

http://openjump.blogspot.com/

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Survey of plugin use and users

2007-06-14 Thread Geoffrey G Roy
To Developers:

The Plugin Survey is now up and running - a small number of changes to 
collect some more data so it can be used by both users and developers.  
I will leave it up for a couple of months, or so, or until the rate of 
responses falls away.

I would encourage developers to complete one form per plugin - so we can 
get a full record of plugins that are out there.

It is available from:

http://www.cadplan.com.au/jump_survey.html

I am also posting a notice on the Users list.

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Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJump speed improvements

2007-06-14 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Larry,

Number 1 sounds good.
Number 4 sounds really good.
Number 5 sounds good.
Number 6 sounds good.

I'm a little nervous about Number 2. It sounds like a really nifty
feature, but I am wondering if we will confuse the user by adding what
seems to be input/output to a context menu in the Layer View. I'm also
not sure how If I understand the difference between a task and a Layer
Task. If we are saving layers and styling information, aren't we
really just saving a project file? Why not just zip the project file?
I'm sure you have you reasons, I just don't "get" them quite yet.

Maybe some of the other developers will comment on Number 2.

I want to echo Stefan's thanks to both Larry Becker and Michael Michaud.

The Sunburned Surveyor

On 6/14/07, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hei Larry
>
> >Comments?
> >
> >
> not really  - except for (2) .. we need to get sure that all necessary
> classes are transfered as well.
>
> For the rest it would turn out to preserve the old i18n-strings (fastest
> way may be to make a copy from the old file and copy by hand) and create
> some new ones for the new functions. Probably we could do it.. if you want.
>
> btw... i am not sure about (6) .. there has been also something in OJ
> that prompts for the path if the file path is invalid (means i dont know
> how much in sync OJ and SkyJump is on that point).
>
> thanx for your contributions :o)
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] OpenJump speed improvements

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Larry

>Comments?
>  
>
not really  - except for (2) .. we need to get sure that all necessary 
classes are transfered as well.

For the rest it would turn out to preserve the old i18n-strings (fastest 
way may be to make a copy from the old file and copy by hand) and create 
some new ones for the new functions. Probably we could do it.. if you want.

btw... i am not sure about (6) .. there has been also something in OJ 
that prompts for the path if the file path is invalid (means i dont know 
how much in sync OJ and SkyJump is on that point).

thanx for your contributions :o)

stefan

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[JPP-Devel] OpenJump speed improvements

2007-06-14 Thread Larry Becker
Thanks to Michaël for implementing the SkyJUMP rendering
optimizations.  Thanks to his efforts, the nightly build of OJ now
gets identical redraw benchmark times with SkyJUMP.  :-)

There is still one more area where I think improvements are needed.
SkyJUMP still opens tasks with many layers (100+) four times faster
than OpenJump.  Unfortunately, OpenProjectPlugIn is one of the most
heavily modified classes in SkyJUMP so it might be hard to find the
specific mod that gave the speed increase (if it was just one).  It
might be easier to just incorporate all of the mods if everyone agrees
they are useful.

I'll try to list all of the OpenProjectPlugIn-related SkyJUMP enhancements here:

1. When opening a task or loading datasets, the task monitor dialog
will now display a cancel button which will stop loading the layers.
This can be important when you suddenly realize that you opened a task
larger than memory.

2. The open source personal geodatabase: Added a Create Archive
feature to the right-click layer tree menu. This will archive all
selected layers to a zip archive. This archive can then be used to
transport or back up your project and opened using the new Merge
Task/Archive menu item on the File menu. When opened in this manner,
any changes to the layers will be saved to the archive with Save
Selected Datasets.In order to preserve style information, each
layer file is accompanied by a task file with the same name as the
layer file.  This is referred to as a Layer Task.  There may be other
details involved with this feature if anyone is interested.

4.  Added support for "deferred loading" of layers. When loading a
task file (.jmp) that contains  layers that are not set to visible,
loading of the layer into memory is deferred until the layer is set to
visible.  If many of your layers are only used occasionally, this can
speed up task loading tremendously.  Note that until made visible, the
layer behaves like a new empty layer.

5.  Support for Layer Reload. Added a right-click Layer Tree option
that allows reloading the selected datasets.  This allows you to
revert your geometry changes without reloading the entire task.  Style
changes are unaffected.  FID numbers are preserved.  Any open
attribute views are also refreshed.

6. Related to Deferred Layer Loading:  Modified Open Task so that even
if layers are not visible (i.e loaded), it will still check to see if
their path is valid, and prompt to locate it if not. This prevents
being surprised several months later after you have forgotten where
the file is.

Comments?

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Suggestion for survey of plugin use and users

2007-06-14 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thanks for the offer Geoff. We will see how the survey goes.

SS

On 6/13/07, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear SS
>
> If the survey is widely contributed to, then I would expect we would get
> a good view of what plugins are being used and thus could easily form
> the basis for a catalogue.  I am quite happy to help with this.
>
> Geoff
>
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> > Guiseppe,
> >
> > I think that this would be totally awesome. If none of the other
> > developers object, I say we go for it. (I don't know how they would
> > respond.)
> >
> > By the way Guiseppe, if you think you would be interested in some more
> > work with plug-ins I could use some help setting up a plug-in catalog.
> > This would just be a simple list of information about the different
> > plug-ins for JUMP.
> >
> > Let me know.
> >
> > The Sunburned Surveyor
> >
> > P.S. - I am currently sidetracked with setting up the Subversion
> > repository at the JPP for OpenJUMP. When this is done I will work on
> > that documentation template for you!
> >
> >
> > On 6/13/07, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> To Developers
> >>
> >> It has occurred to me that some knowledge of the usage of various Jump
> >> plugins might be of interest in identifying a need to improve existing
> >> plugins, creating new plugins or simply knowing who is using what; and
> >> perhaps what plugins might migrate into the core if they are widely used.
> >>
> >> I am prepared to conduct the survey and collate the results - if there
> >> is some interest.
> >>
> >> I have prepared a prototype collection form at:
> >>
> >> http://www.cadplan.com.au/jump_survey.html
> >>
> >> that will post the data to me.
> >>
> >> I would appreciate any comments, and perhaps feedback on the survey form
> >> (extra fields, layout,  etc) before opening this form to users.
> >>
> >> Geoff
> >>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Update on JPP Subversion Migration

2007-06-14 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thanks Andreas.

I will see if I can use the file you created to perform the conversion
over my lunch break and after work today.

I appreciate your help with this.

The Sunburned Surveyor

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>
> Hi,
>
> > > mhm .. i guess the dump is as large as the sum written in the download
> > > section: ca 120MB
>
> bzip2ed it's just 74MB ;-)
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Update on JPP Subversion Migration

2007-06-14 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Andreas Schmitz wrote:

Hi,

> > mhm .. i guess the dump is as large as the sum written in the download 
> > section: ca 120MB

bzip2ed it's just 74MB ;-)

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Update on JPP Subversion Migration

2007-06-14 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Stefan Steiniger wrote:

Hi,

> mhm .. i guess the dump is as large as the sum written in the download 
> section: ca 120MB

> >If you could create the svndump file for me it would save some time. I
> >can handle the process from there.
> >
> >I'm not sure how big the svndump file will be. Hopefully small enough
> >to e-mail? If not we can probably put it up on my comany FTP site.

I created a svndump.bz2 and copied it in the home directory of the
project (/home/groups/j/ju/jump-pilot on shell.sf.net).

You'll find the migration page under Admin -> subversion, then click on
"migrate" under "Migration Instructions".

You should be able to start the process from there (you just have to
give the name of the file, svndump.bz2 in the first field). Leave the
second field blank, and check the checkbox to clean the repos before the
process (I don't know what will happen importing into an already filled
repository).

I guess importing could take a while on the sourceforge servers...

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Update on JPP Subversion Migration

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Steiniger
mhm .. i guess the dump is as large as the sum written in the download 
section: ca 120MB


Sunburned Surveyor wrote:

>Andreas,
>
>If you could create the svndump file for me it would save some time. I
>can handle the process from there.
>
>I'm not sure how big the svndump file will be. Hopefully small enough
>to e-mail? If not we can probably put it up on my comany FTP site.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Landon
>
>On 6/14/07, Andreas Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hmm. This is proving to be a real pain in the rear end.
>>>
>>>Alright. I can start over and try and do the conversion, but it will
>>>take me a few more days.
>>>
>>>I think at some point we need to do a freeze on the commits to the CVS
>>>so I am sure that everything is captured in the conversion process. We
>>>don't need to do this yet because it will probably take me a day or
>>>two to get the tools set up and figure out what the heck I am doing.
>>>  
>>>
>>If you'd like, I can create the svndump file for you and upload it to
>>the project directory. All you'll have to do then is start the
>>conversion process via the sourceforge migration page.
>>
>>Best regards, Andreas
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Update on JPP Subversion Migration

2007-06-14 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Andreas,

If you could create the svndump file for me it would save some time. I
can handle the process from there.

I'm not sure how big the svndump file will be. Hopefully small enough
to e-mail? If not we can probably put it up on my comany FTP site.

Thanks for your help.

Landon

On 6/14/07, Andreas Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Hmm. This is proving to be a real pain in the rear end.
> >
> > Alright. I can start over and try and do the conversion, but it will
> > take me a few more days.
> >
> > I think at some point we need to do a freeze on the commits to the CVS
> > so I am sure that everything is captured in the conversion process. We
> > don't need to do this yet because it will probably take me a day or
> > two to get the tools set up and figure out what the heck I am doing.
>
> If you'd like, I can create the svndump file for you and upload it to
> the project directory. All you'll have to do then is start the
> conversion process via the sourceforge migration page.
>
> Best regards, Andreas
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Suggestion for survey of plugin use and users (Giuseppe)

2007-06-14 Thread Geoffrey G Roy
Dear (the real) Giuseppe

I have added a link to the OpenJUMP home page as well as a new field for 
participants to add references to documentation on the development of 
plugins - I though that would be a good idea.

Geoff

Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
> --- Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ha scritto:
>
>   
>> I typed Guiseppe when I meant Geoff. (Both names
>> start with "g".)
>>
>> Sorry about that guys.
>>
>> SS
>> 
>
> Don't warry about it.  Anyhow may name is Giuseppe and
> not Guiseppe, which sounds in Italian like a "playmate
> french name". 
>
>
> I think that Geof's prototype collection form could
> have a link on Openjump web page for Openjump users
> who never subscribe the mailing-list but follow the
> project
>
>
> @Geoff
> I found these interesting documents about develop Jump
> plugins. they both are in portuguese but it is easy to
> understand. You can give a look. If you have problems
> to understand portuguase, let me know.
> Probabily Ezequias R. da Rocha knows better who are
> the authors of those documents
>
> 1)
> http://www.archive.org/download/Proposing_Plugins_to_OpenJUMP_1/PluginsEmprel1.pdf
> 2)
> http://www.archive.org/download/Proposing_Plugins_to_OpenJUMP_2/PluginsEmprel2.pdf
>
> @SS
> I finished other submenu functions help file. I wrote
> them in Openwriter as I lost the SCRIBUS files you
> send about the help. Would you please to send me
> again? 
> I follow with interest about the "JPP subversion
> migration", Does any changes affect  the way to instal
> plugins?
> Thanks
>
> Regarding your idea: "...I could use some help setting
>  up a plug-in catalog. This would just be a simple
> list of information about the different plug-ins for
> JUMP. Let me know".
> It seems a good idea!
>
> Giuseppe Aruta
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Suggestion for survey of plugin use and users (Giuseppe)

2007-06-14 Thread Giuseppe Aruta

--- Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ha scritto:

> I typed Guiseppe when I meant Geoff. (Both names
> start with "g".)
> 
> Sorry about that guys.
> 
> SS

Don't warry about it.  Anyhow may name is Giuseppe and
not Guiseppe, which sounds in Italian like a "playmate
french name". 


I think that Geof's prototype collection form could
have a link on Openjump web page for Openjump users
who never subscribe the mailing-list but follow the
project


@Geoff
I found these interesting documents about develop Jump
plugins. they both are in portuguese but it is easy to
understand. You can give a look. If you have problems
to understand portuguase, let me know.
Probabily Ezequias R. da Rocha knows better who are
the authors of those documents

1)
http://www.archive.org/download/Proposing_Plugins_to_OpenJUMP_1/PluginsEmprel1.pdf
2)
http://www.archive.org/download/Proposing_Plugins_to_OpenJUMP_2/PluginsEmprel2.pdf

@SS
I finished other submenu functions help file. I wrote
them in Openwriter as I lost the SCRIBUS files you
send about the help. Would you please to send me
again? 
I follow with interest about the "JPP subversion
migration", Does any changes affect  the way to instal
plugins?
Thanks

Regarding your idea: "...I could use some help setting
 up a plug-in catalog. This would just be a simple
list of information about the different plug-ins for
JUMP. Let me know".
It seems a good idea!

Giuseppe Aruta


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Update on JPP Subversion Migration

2007-06-14 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Sunburned Surveyor wrote:

Hi,

> Hmm. This is proving to be a real pain in the rear end.
> 
> Alright. I can start over and try and do the conversion, but it will
> take me a few more days.
> 
> I think at some point we need to do a freeze on the commits to the CVS
> so I am sure that everything is captured in the conversion process. We
> don't need to do this yet because it will probably take me a day or
> two to get the tools set up and figure out what the heck I am doing.

If you'd like, I can create the svndump file for you and upload it to
the project directory. All you'll have to do then is start the
conversion process via the sourceforge migration page.

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Fwd: Update on JPP Subversion Migration

2007-06-14 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Hello,

On Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007, Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> I'm afraid I was already well into the process of setting up the SVN
> when I read the helpful e-mails in this thread. :[
> 
> I have made a stab at setting up the SVN for OpenJUMP at the JPP, and
> it *may* be ready for use.
> 
> I made a "trunk" and "branches" folders under the "openjump" folder. I
> then created a branch of "trunk" in the "branches/stable" folder. This
> included the scripts, installers, etc., not just the "trunk/src"
> folder. This will allow us to version all elements of the release, not
> just the source code. I can change this if it is not acceptable.

I really had not the time to follow this subject. Apologize
if this has already been noted.

However, from my short glimpse I see that you do not
simply convert CVS repository to SVN repository.

I strongly suggest you apply the tool "cvs2svn".
Then you do not loose history, do not have to take care
for "trunk" and the other standard directories etc.

On Linux typically this will do the job:
cvs2svn --no-default-eol --fs-type=fsfs -s openjump-svn openjump-cvs-directory

Best

Jan

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