Re: [JPP-Devel] Weekly Build Disconintued

2008-03-26 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Done Stefan.
  I addded also this other idea:
   
  We can  group, in Layer menu, similar items in submenu, eg. Change style, 
Copy style and paste style coulg be grouped in a *Style* or *Simbology* submenu 
(possibily together with SLD items).
   
  I picked up this ides from Kosmo 1.2. It seems to me more flexible for 
work,since people don't use so frequently styles items in a project, and make 
Layer menu shorter. 
  On the other hand, if my proposals to have some project/style exchange files 
withn Kosmo will have a resault, this will make more simple for user to 
exchange both software.
   
  Peppe

Stefan Steiniger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
  Peppe,

could you add your GUI improvement proposals (2  3) to the usability 
and translation improvement tracker 
(http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=118054atid=997723) and the 
todo-before-shipping list on the wiki?

thanx,
stefan

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[JPP-Devel] save dataset as / save selected datasets - dialog

2008-03-26 Thread entera
hi all!

here is just a little proposal:
if you add a new layer and want to save it (right-mouse-menu on layer - save 
selected datasets), it would be nice if there would be opened a save-dialog 
(only for new unsaved layers) to store the layer.
i know, you should save it first with the save dataset as-menu, but it would 
be more user-friendly, like the save-dialog in the windows notepad 
(automatically save as-dialog).

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Re: [JPP-Devel] save dataset as / save selected datasets - dialog

2008-03-26 Thread entera
i've totally forgotten my question :-)

is it possible to save the layer with a simple function from a plugin? ( 
layer.saveall() or something like that?)
if you are editing the schema and attributes of a layer, the plugin should save 
the changes, not save by clicking mouse-menu...

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Re: [JPP-Devel] make own extension / plugin dependencies

2008-03-26 Thread entera
ok thanks, i think the blackboard is what i need!

carl

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Re: [JPP-Devel] testing famfam icons for oj toolbar

2008-03-26 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
It looks like the famfam icons are a little smaller. are they
available as SVG? If they are, they could be enlarged slightly.

I personally don't have a problem mixing the famfam icons with
existing icons when a famfam replacement doesn't exist.

The Sunburned Surveyor

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Stefan Steiniger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hei,

 I tried to replace our current toolbar icons with famfam icons.
 my observations:
 . famfam icons seem to be a bit too small sometimes
 . I could not find for all icons an equivalent (e.g. hand and the ruler)

 I am not sure if we are able to create our own by mixing several?

 maybe we can consider graphical improvements in a future version (1.3x)
 any comments?

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Re: [JPP-Devel] save dataset as / save selected datasets - dialog

2008-03-26 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Carl,

You wrote: if you add a new layer and want to save it
(right-mouse-menu on layer - save selected datasets), it would be
nice if there would be opened a save-dialog (only for new unsaved
layers) to store the layer.
i know, you should save it first with the save dataset as-menu, but
it would be more user-friendly, like the save-dialog in the windows
notepad (automatically save as-dialog).

I like it! Have you ever used our FeatureTracker on SourceForge? If
you submit your ideas there, as well as on the mailing list, we won't
loose them.

You wrote: is it possible to save the layer with a simple function
from a plugin? ( layer.saveall() or something like that?)
if you are editing the schema and attributes of a layer, the plugin
should save the changes, not save by clicking mouse-menu...

I'm not sure about this. You must remember that a Layer is really just
a thin wrapper around a source of Feature objects. Ususally this is an
ESRI Shapefile or some other type of file. So when you save changes to
the schema or contents of a Layer you are really trying to modify the
underlying file. An exception to this is they styling of the layer.
The information to style a layer is stored in the project file.

Maybe one of the other programmers can confirm this for me. I haven't
dealt a lot with the styling of layers. I think Paul has done a lot of
work in this area, even making some custom Layer Styles.

Having said all of that, it is possible to listen for changes to a
layer, and you could set up some sort of automatic save in a plug-in.
You'd have to [1] be aware of performance issues. You don't want to
save a layer everytime the user moves a node on a LineString and [2]
remember that you'd need to handle the different file formats you want
to support. Remember: Layers inderectly wrap a file that can be used
to produce Feature objects!

The Sunburned Surveyor



On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:21 AM, Carl Grönniger (entera)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i've totally forgotten my question :-)

 is it possible to save the layer with a simple function from a plugin? (
 layer.saveall() or something like that?)
 if you are editing the schema and attributes of a layer, the plugin should
 save the changes, not save by clicking mouse-menu...

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Re: [JPP-Devel] make own extension / plugin dependencies

2008-03-26 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Carl,

I have designed modifications to OpenJUMP's core that will allow what
you propose. However, they have not been integrated into the nightly
build or thoroughly tested.

You can read more here:

http://openjump.blogspot.com/2007/02/supporting-plug-in-dependency-in.html
http://openjump.blogspot.com/2007/02/supporting-plug-in-dependencies-in.html


If this is something you are intersted in trying out I can produce a
modified nightly build that supports plug-in dependency using my
system. Then you can try it out. If you like it, and the other
programmers have no objections, we can talk about integrating it into
the regular nightly build. (The system would not require changes to
normal plug-in development. I figured I should say that before someone
tried to burn me at the stake.) :]

It would take me a week or two to revisit my code, complete testing,
and produce the build.

The Sunburned Surveyor

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Carl Grönniger (entera)
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[JPP-Devel] [ jump-pilot-Usability and Translation Improvements for OpenJUMP UI-1925858 ] Remove Draw Polygon and Draw Tools from Editing Toolbox

2008-03-26 Thread SourceForge.net
Usability and Translation Improvements for OpenJUMP UI item #1925858, was 
opened at 2008-03-26 00:11
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Summary: Remove Draw Polygon and Draw Tools from Editing Toolbox

Initial Comment:
In the Editing toool box the Draw contrained polygon and draw constrained 
linestring seems to do basically the same thing od original Draw polygon and 
Draw linestring. The usage of  keyboard keys help to work on 
Constrained/Unconstrained mode. The only difference is that original draw 
polygon has an option to draw holes which draw const. pol. doesn't have. But 
now, thanks to Erwan's cut cookie polygon, it is not necessary to have the 
double of the same drawing tools on the toolbox. I propone to eliminate 
original draw polygon and draw linestring to make the toolbox more 
flexible. 


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[JPP-Devel] [ jump-pilot-Usability and Translation Improvements for OpenJUMP UI-1925859 ] Add the Union/Cut tools from Tools menu to Editing Toolbox

2008-03-26 Thread SourceForge.net
Usability and Translation Improvements for OpenJUMP UI item #1925859, was 
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Summary: Add the Union/Cut tools from Tools menu to Editing Toolbox

Initial Comment:
The tools  Union-lines, Union 2 polygons, and Larry's cut polygons could have 
an icon and stay on the Editing toolbox instead on the Tools menu. 

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[JPP-Devel] [ jump-pilot-Usability and Translation Improvements for OpenJUMP UI-1925872 ] Layer menu: group in submenu all Style items

2008-03-26 Thread SourceForge.net
Usability and Translation Improvements for OpenJUMP UI item #1925872, was 
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Summary: Layer menu: group in submenu all Style items

Initial Comment:
We can  group, in Layer menu, similar items in submenu, eg. Change style, Copy 
style and paste style coulg be grouped in a *Style* or *Simbology* submenu 
(possibily together with SLD items)

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Re: [JPP-Devel] save dataset as / save selected datasets - dialog

2008-03-26 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Carl,

I think it is possible, but i am also not sure.
If you start with parsing what happens in the save selected datasets 
function you may find a way. The layer would probably be the currently 
selected one.

You find the corresponding plugin when you use one of the language 
properties files and look for the name of the function. I.e. search for 
the string Save Selected Datasets in the file jump_en.properties to 
obtain the path of the corresponding plugin class.

Stefan

Carl Grönniger (entera) wrote:
 i've totally forgotten my question :-)
  
 is it possible to save the layer with a simple function from a plugin? ( 
 layer.saveall() or something like that?)
 if you are editing the schema and attributes of a layer, the plugin 
 should save the changes, not save by clicking mouse-menu...
  
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[JPP-Devel] Language files

2008-03-26 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
I am working around the Italian Language file to fix the latest modification.
  I am also giving a review to the main (English) Jump.properties files.
   
  1) There are some items which lack of interntionalization (?): ZoomRealtime 
and Paste items to point
   
  2) I wander if it is possible to modify the description of some items:
  a)  Transform layer style into SLD  to Export symbology to SLD file
  b) Import SLD  to   Import symbology from SLD file
   
   
  I think in the nect days I will go on working on Italian files and check 
other Internat/modify on main language file. If you agree with the proposal 2) 
I will try to modify also Spanish, French and Portuguese files. For point 1) I 
probabily need a complete Jump.properties 
   
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Language files

2008-03-26 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Peppe,

Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
 I am working around the Italian Language file to fix the latest 
 modification.
 I am also giving a review to the main (English) Jump.properties files.
  
 1) There are some items which lack of interntionalization (?): 
 ZoomRealtime and Paste items to point
yep.. I saw this as well (there may be some more things open: e.g. some 
checks are left)

  
 2) I wander if it is possible to modify the description of some items:
 a)  Transform layer style into SLD  to Export symbology to SLD file
 b) Import SLD  to   Import symbology from SLD file

no problem. but be aware that you are not changing the key, only the 
translations.
I actually I found the prbeditor quite handsome for the editing of the 
entries. You only need to load all files together. Then it shows you on 
the left the key entry and on the right all translations (I can also 
send a screen shot).

stefan
  
  
 I think in the nect days I will go on working on Italian files and check 
 other Internat/modify on main language file. If you agree with the 
 proposal 2) I will try to modify also Spanish, French and Portuguese 
 files. For point 1) I probabily need a complete Jump.properties
  
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Kosmo and OpenJUMP common area of interests

2008-03-26 Thread SAIG - Listas
Hi to all.

I'll shed a little bit light on the issues from a developer point of 
view (both proposals from Giuseppe and another one that Sunburned 
Surveyor mentioned):

1) Kosmo plug-in model

I'll start with a little bit of history to clarify some ideas:

Kosmo started on August 2005. Our starting seed was the JUMP 1.0 fork 
implemented by the Agiles group (the two starting developers of Kosmo 
were part of the founders of this group). This fork implemented an 
on-demmand framework to the existing JUMP datasource framework. Why 
don't we use the 1.1.2 JUMP version that was already present at that 
date? When we implemented the on-demmand framework on the last version, 
the results that we obtained were worse that those obtained with the 1.0 
fork. So we decided to start with it and added to this version some of 
the improvements that were made to JUMP from the 1.0 to the 1.1.2 
version. As we were advancing in the development of Kosmo, we have added 
some of the improvements made to JUMP and also to OpenJUMP.

The plugin model that Kosmo uses is basically the same: we have added 
some methods to the interfaces and the abstract classes, but they 
haven't been changed heavily. There is no plugín dependency system 
implemented. The extension model have been also improved, but is almost 
the same too.


2) Save as - project file format

I think that a common project file format won't be a good choice: 
currently each application uses its own project saving framework and 
it'll be difficult for each one to change it to a common one. I think 
that a better choice would be to implement a import/export OpenJUMP 
project option in Kosmo and an import/export Kosmo project option in 
OpenJUMP. We share some common objects  (Task, Category, Layer, 
FeatureCollections, DataSourceQuery, JUMP Styles, ...) that can be 
recovered from the project XML file and loaded into each one.


3) SLD Import/Export

Kosmo only supports SLD export so far (the import plugin is planned but 
it's not implemented yet). As Giuseppe says, this format can be used to 
export/import the layer simbology between the two projects, as SLD is a 
standard and it's not binded to a determinate application. Kosmo also 
allows to save its own simbology format because we use some improvements 
that are not present in the SLD standard. But most of the Kosmo 
simbology can be exported to a SLD file without problem. Each 
application could accept the parts of the standard supported, and the 
rest of the file could be ignored. I think the SLD format it's a good 
choice.

Regards,

PD: We've tested the Kosmo SLD export against UDIG 1.1 rc14 and all of 
the tests have succeded. I've also test against the last OpenJump 
nightly build with some sld files generated by Kosmo and the OJ SLD 
import plugin has a problem when reading the color values: it seems to 
read the color value string with a lot of spaces before and after it, 
and the Color.decode() function fails (this could be corrected by 
calling to the method colorString.trim()).

Giuseppe Aruta escribió:
 Hi Antonio,
 let me resume the two i(my) proposal that could be object of this 
 discussion:. Just in order that developers can have an idea (from user 
 point of view).
  
 1) a save as to project file format shared by two software. This 
 format (Jump, Kosmo or other) would not be alterate by saving option. 
 eg. If I create a project in Kosmo with hyperlink or advanced style, 
 when I open this project in OJ (which hasn't hyperlink or advanced 
 style), modify something and save again to the project file, this 
 doesn't alterate Kosmo's functionalities (hyperlink etc.)
  
 2) Possibility that Kosmo and OpenJUMP would save the layer style to 
 the same file type. Actually Kosmo saves to an its own style files 
 (SLS) format and to SLD for web proposal. OpenJUMP doesn't have a save 
 style file but newer Nightly build allows to export/import to SLD.
 The proposal is omologate the two SLD projects to let talk each other 
 (I did a test and OJ doesn't import Kosmo SLD files) not only for web 
 but also to exchange basic layer styles parametres (Colours of line, 
 vertices and polygons, line width - possibily line type and simple 
 poligon fill)
  
 I invite the other OpenJUMP developers to say their idea about.
  
 Best regards
 Peppe
  


 */listas [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* ha scritto:

 Hi Landon, Peppe and everybody.

 You are right Peppe, we were in East Holidays and I too needed to
 talk
 with our main developer team people (really I am not a developer
 and I
 am not able to speak about code, so I need them) :-) .

 I hope this afternoon some information to continue speaking.

 Best regards
 Antonio

 Giuseppe Aruta escribió:
  Hi London,
  I think that the break of comunication in these days regarding
  Kosmo-OpenJUMP common project was due to East holidays. And also
  because Antonio Muñoz probabily needs to talk with other Saig team
  

[JPP-Devel] Updates to OpenJump Printer plugin

2008-03-26 Thread Geoffrey G Roy

To User and Developers

I have just posted a new version of the OpenJump Printer plugin.  It 
contains a number of enhancements:


   * All furniture items can now have their size scaled for printing.
   * Each OpenJump project can have several user-defined printer
 configurations (i.e different paper sizes and furniture items)
 that can be created and retrieved as required.

Usual site: http://www.cadplan.com.au

Please report any problems

thanks

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