Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

[Michael Michaud]

Hi
> Nice map! :)
> so you and Andrei, both impress me with what OJ can actually do.
Yes, very impressive !
Let us know. How much was done with OpenJUMP ?

Michaël
>
> salduos
> stefan
>
> Am 01.04.14 13:18, schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
>> Hi Stefan,
>> there are still people who have to plot map, like me.
>> Recently I had to print again old  GIS projects (geological maps) and I
>> gave a chance to OpenJUMP/Cadplann printer with very nice results.
>> I used embedded OJ geological symbols for point symbols
>> For linear symbols I developed line symbol classes to use as
>> decorations. And for areal symbols I simple used my own patterns with
>> Geof's JumpFillPattern plugin (embedded into OJ PLus).
>>I put a (sample map here:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Programmi%20e%20corsi/sample_maps/Auletta_geo.png/download.
>>
>> It is a low quality derived image from a high PDF export.
>> Best regards
>> Peppe
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-01 18:11 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger > >:
>>
>>  Thanks for the analysis Jukka & Larry. So now my 2 cents:
>>  I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
>>  After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint
>>  in Core, but maybe rename it "Screen Print" or "PDF Print". This way it
>>  may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print
>>  plugin that does a lot more and is for "plotting maps" (do people still
>>  do that? ;).
>>
>>  thanks to the programmers!
>>
>>  cheers,
>>  stefan
>>
>>  Am 01.04.14 09 :46, schrieb Larry Becker:
>>   > Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
>>   > driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for
>>  Cadplan
>>   > to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the "ISA print
>>  driver" now,
>>   > if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver
>>  be put
>>   > in core so that developers can count on it being there.
>>   >
>>   > The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map
>>  "furniture"
>>   > through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
>>   > North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.
>>   >
>>   > I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
>>   > since I was too lazy.  8-)
>>   >
>>   > It may be useful to review this thread
>>   >
>>  
>> 
>>   > from March of last year on the same topic.
>>   >
>>   > regards,
>>   > Larry Becker
>>   >
>>   >
>>   > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
>>   > mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>>  >  >> wrote:
>>   >
>>   > Hi,
>>   >
>>   > __ __
>>   >
>>   > In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is
>>  rather
>>   > an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your
>>  screen
>>   > to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
>>   > quality better than really using print screen or Save view as…
>>   > option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
>>   > possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
>>   > feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF
>>  where each
>>   > map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
>>   > visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
>>   > Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
>>   > feature.
>>   >
>>   > __ __
>>   >
>>   > Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
>>   > features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend,
>>  scale, North
>>   > Arrow etc. 
>>   >
>>   > __ __
>>   >
>>   > The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here
>>  is the
>>   > list of enhancement option it has for those who have not
>>  tried it:
>>   >
>>   > - Remove transparency
>>   >
>>   > - Print page border
>>   >
>>   > - Remove fills from basic style
>>   >
>>   > - Remove fills for color themes
>>   >
>>   > - Adjust line width by percent
>>   >
>>   > - Double raster image resolution
>>   >
>>   > __ __
>>   >
>>   > SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
>>   > nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
>>   > utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to

Re: [JPP-Devel] svn and new features

[Michael Michaud]

Hi Peppe,

thanks for the improvements on attribute panel.
Today I tested the new date format/panel option.

Thanks for the tests


a) I add a date attribute, digit some dates and modify default value: 
The format seems to remain -MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss even if I set to 
other format
b) it is not possible to modify hous/minutes/seconds/milliseconds. The 
values on my computer are set to a 12:00:00.000 standard value 
whatever input I do (and whatever time of the day is). There must be 
something I don't understand.
c) There is an option on Time Panel "-MM-ddThh:mm:ss.sss" which is 
not standardized and it doesn't work (it gives back an "illegal 
pattern Character T" error message)

Yes, yes and yes, there were several bugs which should be fixed now.
Could you please test again ?

d) saving to SHP and open the corresponding DBF file with Libreoffice 
base,  the format is shown as mm/dd/yy format (only date no time), 
googling around I found that this is a pacularity of dBase format. I 
wander if the time field is saved for other file formats of OpenJUMP 
(es postgis)
Yes, OpenJUMP can read/write timestamp to/from postgis. I think it is 
also OK with jml.


Michaël


best regards

Peppe



2014-04-01 8:38 GMT+02:00 Michael Michaud >:


Hi,

Thanks, Ede, for your always relevant advices,

r3914 brings two new features :
- date display in Attribute panel is now customizable and use the
-MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss
format by default (use display tab in options panel to change it)
- null values are now displayed wih a small null icon in attribute
panel
(as in Kosmo) so that
one can differentiate empty string from null values

Michaël


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

[Stefan Steiniger]

Nice map! :)
so you and Andrei, both impress me with what OJ can actually do.

salduos
stefan

Am 01.04.14 13:18, schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
> Hi Stefan,
> there are still people who have to plot map, like me.
> Recently I had to print again old  GIS projects (geological maps) and I
> gave a chance to OpenJUMP/Cadplann printer with very nice results.
> I used embedded OJ geological symbols for point symbols
> For linear symbols I developed line symbol classes to use as
> decorations. And for areal symbols I simple used my own patterns with
> Geof's JumpFillPattern plugin (embedded into OJ PLus).
>   I put a (sample map here:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Programmi%20e%20corsi/sample_maps/Auletta_geo.png/download.
>
> It is a low quality derived image from a high PDF export.
> Best regards
> Peppe
>
>
>
> 2014-04-01 18:11 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger  >:
>
> Thanks for the analysis Jukka & Larry. So now my 2 cents:
> I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
> After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint
> in Core, but maybe rename it "Screen Print" or "PDF Print". This way it
> may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print
> plugin that does a lot more and is for "plotting maps" (do people still
> do that? ;).
>
> thanks to the programmers!
>
> cheers,
> stefan
>
> Am 01.04.14 09 :46, schrieb Larry Becker:
>  > Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
>  > driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for
> Cadplan
>  > to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the "ISA print
> driver" now,
>  > if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver
> be put
>  > in core so that developers can count on it being there.
>  >
>  > The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map
> "furniture"
>  > through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
>  > North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.
>  >
>  > I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
>  > since I was too lazy.  8-)
>  >
>  > It may be useful to review this thread
>  >
> 
> 
>  > from March of last year on the same topic.
>  >
>  > regards,
>  > Larry Becker
>  >
>  >
>  > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
>  > mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>
>  >> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > __ __
>  >
>  > In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is
> rather
>  > an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your
> screen
>  > to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
>  > quality better than really using print screen or Save view as…
>  > option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
>  > possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
>  > feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF
> where each
>  > map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
>  > visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
>  > Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
>  > feature.
>  >
>  > __ __
>  >
>  > Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
>  > features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend,
> scale, North
>  > Arrow etc. 
>  >
>  > __ __
>  >
>  > The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here
> is the
>  > list of enhancement option it has for those who have not
> tried it:
>  >
>  > - Remove transparency
>  >
>  > - Print page border
>  >
>  > - Remove fills from basic style
>  >
>  > - Remove fills for color themes
>  >
>  > - Adjust line width by percent
>  >
>  > - Double raster image resolution
>  >
>  > __ __
>  >
>  > SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
>  > nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
>  > utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to
>  > enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality
> enhancement
>  > options.
>  >
>  > __ __
>  >
>  > -Jukka Rahkonen-
>  >
>  > __ __
>  >
>  > __ __
>  >
>  > Michael Michaud wrote:
>  >
>

Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

[Giuseppe Aruta]

Hi Stefan,
there are still people who have to plot map, like me.
Recently I had to print again old  GIS projects (geological maps) and I
gave a chance to OpenJUMP/Cadplann printer with very nice results.
I used embedded OJ geological symbols for point symbols
For linear symbols I developed line symbol classes to use as decorations.
And for areal symbols I simple used my own patterns with Geof's
JumpFillPattern plugin (embedded into OJ PLus).
 I put a (sample map here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Programmi%20e%20corsi/sample_maps/Auletta_geo.png/download.

It is a low quality derived image from a high PDF export.
Best regards
Peppe



2014-04-01 18:11 GMT+02:00 Stefan Steiniger :

> Thanks for the analysis Jukka & Larry. So now my 2 cents:
> I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
> After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint
> in Core, but maybe rename it "Screen Print" or "PDF Print". This way it
> may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print
> plugin that does a lot more and is for "plotting maps" (do people still
> do that? ;).
>
> thanks to the programmers!
>
> cheers,
> stefan
>
> Am 01.04.14 09:46, schrieb Larry Becker:
> > Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
> > driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for Cadplan
> > to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the "ISA print driver" now,
> > if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver be put
> > in core so that developers can count on it being there.
> >
> > The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map "furniture"
> > through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
> > North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.
> >
> > I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
> > since I was too lazy.  8-)
> >
> > It may be useful to review this thread
> > <
> http://jump-pilot-devel-openjump-develop-and-use.1063199.n5.nabble.com/JPP-Devel-RenderingManager-modes-in-skyjump-td5708408.html#a5708423
> >
> > from March of last year on the same topic.
> >
> > regards,
> > Larry Becker
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
> > mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is rather
> > an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your screen
> > to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
> > quality better than really using print screen or Save view as...
> > option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
> > possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
> > feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF where each
> > map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
> > visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
> > Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
> > feature.
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
> > features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend, scale, North
> > Arrow etc. 
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here is the
> > list of enhancement option it has for those who have not tried
> it:
> >
> > - Remove transparency
> >
> > - Print page border
> >
> > - Remove fills from basic style
> >
> > - Remove fills for color themes
> >
> > - Adjust line width by percent
> >
> > - Double raster image resolution
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
> > nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
> > utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to
> > enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality enhancement
> > options.
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > -Jukka Rahkonen-
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Michael Michaud wrote:
> >
> > __ __
> >
> > Hi Geoff, Matthias
> >
> > Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.
> >
> > As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
> > for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
> > useful way.
> > To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
> > - to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
> > printer features
> > - to make a small survey about how people use them and how
> > they are satisfied with them
> > - to study how they can converge or how they can complete
> > each other in future developments
> >
> > But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
> > either in core or in plus version.
> >
> > Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a compa

Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

[Stefan Steiniger]

Thanks for the analysis Jukka & Larry. So now my 2 cents:
I haven't used SkyPrint but a couple of times Geoffs plugin.
After reading Jukkas and Larry's comment I think we should put SkyPrint 
in Core, but maybe rename it "Screen Print" or "PDF Print". This way it 
may also be clear what is does focus on, in comparison to Cadplans print 
plugin that does a lot more and is for "plotting maps" (do people still 
do that? ;).

thanks to the programmers!

cheers,
stefan

Am 01.04.14 09:46, schrieb Larry Becker:
> Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF)
> driver, and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for Cadplan
> to use the SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the "ISA print driver" now,
> if Geoff is willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver be put
> in core so that developers can count on it being there.
>
> The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map "furniture"
> through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support
> North arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.
>
> I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability,
> since I was too lazy.  8-)
>
> It may be useful to review this thread
> 
> from March of last year on the same topic.
>
> regards,
> Larry Becker
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)
> mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> __ __
>
> In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is rather
> an enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your screen
> to printer. It has some very  good features which makes the print
> quality better than really using print screen or Save view as…
> option of OpenJUMP. These include some style adjustments and a
> possibility to double the raster image resolution.  The unique
> feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF where each
> map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The
> visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
> Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this
> feature.
>
> __ __
>
> Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all
> features that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend, scale, North
> Arrow etc. 
>
> __ __
>
> The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here is the
> list of enhancement option it has for those who have not tried it:
>
> - Remove transparency
>
> - Print page border
>
> - Remove fills from basic style
>
> - Remove fills for color themes
>
> - Adjust line width by percent
>
> - Double raster image resolution
>
> __ __
>
> SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very
> nice format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing
> utility is rather limited. Better long termo option would be to
> enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF layers and quality enhancement
> options.
>
> __ __
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
> __ __
>
> __ __
>
> Michael Michaud wrote:
>
> __ __
>
> Hi Geoff, Matthias
>
> Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.
>
> As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
> for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
> useful way.
> To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
> - to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
> printer features
> - to make a small survey about how people use them and how
> they are satisfied with them
> - to study how they can converge or how they can complete
> each other in future developments
>
> But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
> either in core or in plus version.
>
> Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
> between both plugins ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michaël
> 
>
> Dear All
>
> I would be quite happy to look at adding any required additional
> functionality to my printer plugin if this would add to the
> general OpenJump capability.  Please let me know what might be
> useful.
>
> thanks
>
> Geoff
>
> 
>
> On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 
>
> Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will
> still remain without printing capabilities which I think it
> would deserve. 
>
> But there is already the “Save view as..” option in Core. If
> I think my own printing needs I need very often not only the
> map on a paper but also title, legend in a good place and
> fixed, selecta

Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

[Larry Becker]

Jukka has it right.  I think of it as two parts: a printer (or PDF) driver,
and a screen print utility.  It should be possible for Cadplan to use the
SkyPrint driver, just as it uses the "ISA print driver" now, if Geoff is
willing.  I would recommend that the SkyPrint driver be put in core so that
developers can count on it being there.

The only (minor) difficulty I see is the printing of the map "furniture"
through iText.  As I recall, I had to put in special code to support North
arrows and scale bars in SkyJUMP.

I want to thank Mattias for his good work in porting the capability, since
I was too lazy.  8-)

It may be useful to review this
threadfrom
March of last year on the same topic.

regards,
Larry Becker


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) <
jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>
>
> In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is rather an
> enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your screen to
> printer.  It has some very  good features which makes the print quality
> better than really using print screen or Save view as... option of OpenJUMP.
> These include some style adjustments and a possibility to double the raster
> image resolution.  The unique feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out
> layered PDF where each map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF
> layer. The visibility of layers can be controlled with the layer tool of
> Acrobat Reader. I am not sure if any other viewer support this feature.
>
>
>
> Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all features
> that printed maps tend to have: Title, legend, scale, North Arrow etc.
>
>
>
> The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here is the list of
> enhancement option it has for those who have not tried it:
>
> - Remove transparency
>
> - Print page border
>
> - Remove fills from basic style
>
> - Remove fills for color themes
>
> - Adjust line width by percent
>
> - Double raster image resolution
>
>
>
> SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very nice
> format for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing utility is
> rather limited. Better long termo option would be to enhance the Cadplan
> printer with PDF layers and quality enhancement options.
>
>
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael Michaud wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Geoff, Matthias
>
> Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.
>
> As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
> for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
> useful way.
> To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
> - to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
> printer features
> - to make a small survey about how people use them and how
> they are satisfied with them
> - to study how they can converge or how they can complete
> each other in future developments
>
> But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
> either in core or in plus version.
>
> Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
> between both plugins ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michaël
>
>
> Dear All
>
> I would be quite happy to look at adding any required additional
> functionality to my printer plugin if this would add to the general
> OpenJump capability.  Please let me know what might be useful.
>
> thanks
>
> Geoff
>
>  On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>
>
> Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will still remain
> without printing capabilities which I think it would deserve.
>
> But there is already the "Save view as.." option in Core. If I think my
> own printing needs I need very often not only the map on a paper but also
> title, legend in a good place and fixed, selectable scale. Having these
> features brings the core printer pretty close to Cadplan printer plugin so
> perhaps OJ Core will live without printing options.
>
> For me title and legend and more frequently needed options than layered
> PDF which is the biggest gig in Skyprint.  Perhaps it could be possible to
> add layering into Cadplan printer which also seems to be able to write PDF
> files with iText.
>
>
>
> I have a small wish for the SkyPrint plugin: it could have a dropdown menu
> for selecting the most common paper sizes for PDF dimensions.
>
>
>
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>
>
>
> *Lähettäjä:* Giuseppe Aruta 
> [mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it]
>
> *Lähetetty:* 18. maaliskuuta 2014 11:05
> *Vastaanottaja:* OpenJump develop and use
> *Aihe:* Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE
>
>
>
> I am in favour of Ede's proposal.
>
> Peppe
>
>
>
> 2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 :
>
> On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then absolutely into
> core. The jar is only about 40 kb and makes it possible to
> > Not q

Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

[Rahkonen Jukka (Tike)]

Hi,

In my opinion SkyPrint is not really a printer plugin.  It is rather an 
enhanced PrintScreen utility that sends the map from your screen to printer.  
It has some very  good features which makes the print quality better than 
really using print screen or Save view as... option of OpenJUMP. These include 
some style adjustments and a possibility to double the raster image resolution. 
 The unique feature in SkyPrint is that it can write out layered PDF where each 
map layer from OpenJUMP is written as a separate PDF layer. The visibility of 
layers can be controlled with the layer tool of Acrobat Reader. I am not sure 
if any other viewer support this feature.

Why I would call it PrintScreen utility is that it is missing all features that 
printed maps tend to have: Title, legend, scale, North Arrow etc.

The SkyPrint UI shows the advanced features it has but here is the list of 
enhancement option it has for those who have not tried it:
- Remove transparency
- Print page border
- Remove fills from basic style
- Remove fills for color themes
- Adjust line width by percent
- Double raster image resolution

SkyPrint creates very good quality prints and layered PDF is very nice format 
for many purposes but SkyPrint as the only printing utility is rather limited. 
Better long termo option would be to enhance the Cadplan printer with PDF 
layers and quality enhancement options.

-Jukka Rahkonen-


Michael Michaud wrote:

Hi Geoff, Matthias

Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.

As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
useful way.
To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
- to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
printer features
- to make a small survey about how people use them and how
they are satisfied with them
- to study how they can converge or how they can complete
each other in future developments

But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
either in core or in plus version.

Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
between both plugins ?

Best regards,

Michaël

Dear All

I would be quite happy to look at adding any required additional functionality 
to my printer plugin if this would add to the general OpenJump capability.  
Please let me know what might be useful.

thanks

Geoff

On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:
Hi,

Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will still remain without 
printing capabilities which I think it would deserve.
But there is already the "Save view as.." option in Core. If I think my own 
printing needs I need very often not only the map on a paper but also title, 
legend in a good place and fixed, selectable scale. Having these features 
brings the core printer pretty close to Cadplan printer plugin so perhaps OJ 
Core will live without printing options.
For me title and legend and more frequently needed options than layered PDF 
which is the biggest gig in Skyprint.  Perhaps it could be possible to add 
layering into Cadplan printer which also seems to be able to write PDF files 
with iText.

I have a small wish for the SkyPrint plugin: it could have a dropdown menu for 
selecting the most common paper sizes for PDF dimensions.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Lähettäjä: Giuseppe Aruta [mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it]
Lähetetty: 18. maaliskuuta 2014 11:05
Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

I am in favour of Ede's proposal.
Peppe

2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>>:
On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then absolutely into core. 
>> The jar is only about 40 kb and makes it possible to
> Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib folder too ;-)
ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me then.

>>> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would we rather 
>>> have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?
>> We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and SkyPrint +
>> Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
>
> I am undecided, but Printing should be a core feature. However, what
> Matthias proposed maybe best as Geoffs Printing is a bit heavier and
> people should know by now that the goodies come with PLUS (hopefully).
i'd suggest

File->Print->Printer (Cadplan)
 Printer (SkyPrint)

as to differentiate the two. trying to describe the difference would be to 
difficult in a short menu item's text.
this can easily be done with the new install mechanism. default-plugins.xml can 
override the install setting of any extension. the string would go into OJ 
language files then.

>> wrt. to the integration.
>>
>> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would we rather 
>> have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?
> We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and SkyPrint +
> Geoff's plugin in the 

Re: [JPP-Devel] svn and new features

[Giuseppe Aruta]

Hi Michael,
thanks for the improvements on attribute panel.
Today I tested the new date format/panel option.
a) I add a date attribute, digit some dates and modify default value: The
format seems to remain -MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss  even if I set to other
format
b) it is not possible to modify hous/minutes/seconds/milliseconds. The
values on my computer are set to a 12:00:00.000 standard value whatever
input I do (and whatever time of the day is). There must be something I
don't understand.
c) There is an option on Time Panel "-MM-ddThh:mm:ss.sss" which is not
standardized and it doesn't work (it gives back an "illegal pattern
Character T" error message)
d) saving to SHP and open the corresponding DBF file with Libreoffice
base,  the format is shown as mm/dd/yy format (only date no time), googling
around I found that this is a pacularity of dBase format. I wander if the
time field is saved for other file formats of OpenJUMP (es postgis)

best regards

Peppe



2014-04-01 8:38 GMT+02:00 Michael Michaud :

> Hi,
>
> Thanks, Ede, for your always relevant advices,
>
> r3914 brings two new features :
> - date display in Attribute panel is now customizable and use the
> -MM-dd hh:mm:ss.sss
> format by default (use display tab in options panel to change it)
> - null values are now displayed wih a small null icon in attribute panel
> (as in Kosmo) so that
> one can differentiate empty string from null values
>
> Michaël
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

[Michael Michaud]

Hi Geoff, Matthias

Thanks a lot for the offer Geoff.

As I'm not a daily user of printing features, my main concern
for now is to rationalize developpements and to develop in a
useful way.
To help heading in that direction, may advice would be
- to make a detailed comparison of skyprinter and cadplan
printer features
- to make a small survey about how people use them and how
they are satisfied with them
- to study how they can converge or how they can complete
each other in future developments

But the first step is probably to make skyprinter available,
either in core or in plus version.

Matthias, what do you think ? Is there already a comparison
between both plugins ?

Best regards,

Michaël



Dear All

I would be quite happy to look at adding any required additional 
functionality to my printer plugin if this would add to the general 
OpenJump capability.  Please let me know what might be useful.


thanks

Geoff


On 18/03/2014 18:02, Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) wrote:


Hi,

Let SkyPrint be in the Plus then. However, then Core will still 
remain without printing capabilities which I think it would deserve.


But there is already the "Save view as.." option in Core. If I think 
my own printing needs I need very often not only the map on a paper 
but also title, legend in a good place and fixed, selectable scale. 
Having these features brings the core printer pretty close to Cadplan 
printer plugin so perhaps OJ Core will live without printing options.


For me title and legend and more frequently needed options than 
layered PDF which is the biggest gig in Skyprint.  Perhaps it could 
be possible to add layering into Cadplan printer which also seems to 
be able to write PDF files with iText.


I have a small wish for the SkyPrint plugin: it could have a dropdown 
menu for selecting the most common paper sizes for PDF dimensions.


-Jukka Rahkonen-

*Lähettäjä:*Giuseppe Aruta [mailto:giuseppe_ar...@yahoo.it]
*Lähetetty:* 18. maaliskuuta 2014 11:05
*Vastaanottaja:* OpenJump develop and use
*Aihe:* Re: [JPP-Devel] Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

I am in favour of Ede's proposal.

Peppe

2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 >:


On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then absolutely 
into core. The jar is only about 40 kb and makes it possible to

> Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib folder too ;-)

ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me then.


>>> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would 
we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?


>> We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and 
SkyPrint +

>> Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
>
> I am undecided, but Printing should be a core feature. However, what
> Matthias proposed maybe best as Geoffs Printing is a bit heavier and
> people should know by now that the goodies come with PLUS (hopefully).

i'd suggest

File->Print->Printer (Cadplan)
 Printer (SkyPrint)

as to differentiate the two. trying to describe the difference would 
be to difficult in a short menu item's text.
this can easily be done with the new install mechanism. 
default-plugins.xml can override the install setting of any 
extension. the string would go into OJ language files then.



>> wrt. to the integration.
>>
>> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would we 
rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?


> We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and 
SkyPrint +

> Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
>>

>> Matthias: you might wanna read the old thread on what we "negotiated"

>> 
http://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/mailman/jump-pilot-devel/thread/5288BF32.3060408%40web.de/#msg31648034

> I read it yesterday again. To get the SkyPrinter run from lib/ext we
> need the itext jar in the lib path. Ede, should i move the
> itext-2.1.7.jar from lib/plus into lib/ and copy
> SkyPrinterPlugIn-1.0.0.jar to the SVN into lib/ext or do you do that
> during release build

for PLUS this is handled easily. everything in trunk/lib/plus/ is 
simply copied into lib/ext/ during the PLUS release build. so, after 
Jukka or others "approved" the extension you might simply


- add documentation to etc/readme.txt (section Licensing/PLUS), read 
other entries there to get an idea of the needed information
- commit the needed jar to lib/plus/ & it will be included in the 
next PLUS build


as you volunteered (kind of) now for the extension's maintenance ;) 
please also generate a proper extension release for sf.net 
 files, instead of only a jar.

that would be a zip file, containing

ReadMe.txt - with chapters
 Installation - which file to copy where
 Licenses - name, files, component
lib files - needed support jars, extension jar
license files (txt,pdf...) for the components above, download them 
from the net


and upload it for users wanting to use the extension with a barebone 
CORE OJ onl