Re: [JPP-Devel] Cannot open old project file

2012-01-11 Thread Michaël Michaud

Hi Larry,

Nice to hear from you,
Skyjump has still nice features which have not yet been integrated into 
OpenJUMP,

We miss you... ;o)

Michaël

Le 10/01/2012 23:28, Larry Becker a écrit :

Hi Jukka,

  I haven't posted for a while, but I'm still listening.  Your post 
reminded me that OJ still doesn't have one of my favorite features in 
SkyJUMP: the layer file.  These are basically project files per 
layer.  They are created when you use the Archive Selected Datasets 
menu option.  It creates a zip file containing all of the selected 
layers (using their current file format) along with a project file 
(with the jmp extension) that has the same filename as each archived 
layer .  The zip file can then be used to deliver data along with 
associated style information to others without any file path 
problems.  The recipient of the archive can choose to open it directly 
and work on it in-place (all changes will be written back into the zip 
file), or extract it and Merge the selected layer project files into 
their current project.


This feature has been in use at ISA for many years and we consider it 
essential to using JUMP to work on projects with multiple people 
editing at the same time.


regards,

Larry Becker
ISA

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rahkonen Jukka 
jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote:


Hi,

New OJ does not open my old project files which I have created in
2009. It is not a problem because I have the corresponding
OpenJUMP version in the same zip file. Big advantage from a small
footprint. I still wonder what has  changed and how the old
project files could be edited to be usasable with a fresh OJ.

It would be nice to be able to save the project file to that
datasource path would be relational to JUMP_HOME or something.
That would make it possible to deliver data, project, styles and
software all together - unzip and launch and you are ready to work
in one minute. You cannot do that with ArcGIS but I guess it might
be possible to do with OpenJUMP.  It is already possible if
operation system gives USB disk the same volume letter in the
lottery but that is not always the case and users without admin
rights cannot change volume letters at least on Windows.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cannot open old project file

2012-01-11 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Hi Larry,
nice to hear from you on the list. I found other interesting tools to be 
adapted from Skyjump to OJ. And did it on my fankestein (freank-stein!) 
versions of OpenJUMP.
Some were adopted (like Copy/Paste Style tools). Other are waiting to .. better 
times.
I hope you come back on the list one day and give other good best lessons on 
java/jts programming!!

Peppe




 Da: Michaël Michaud michael.mich...@free.fr
A: OpenJump develop and use jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
Inviato: Mercoledì 11 Gennaio 2012 20:30
Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] Cannot open old project file
 

Hi Larry,

Nice to hear from you,
Skyjump has still nice features which have not yet been integrated
into OpenJUMP,
We miss you... ;o)

Michaël

Le 10/01/2012 23:28, Larry Becker a écrit : 
Hi Jukka,

  I haven't posted for a while, but I'm still listening.  Your
  post reminded me that OJ still doesn't have one of my favorite
  features in SkyJUMP: the layer file.  These are basically project
  files per layer.  They are created when you use the Archive
  Selected Datasets menu option.  It creates a zip file containing
  all of the selected layers (using their current file format) along
  with a project file (with the jmp extension) that has the same
  filename as each archived layer .  The zip file can then be used
  to deliver data along with associated style information to others
  without any file path problems.  The recipient of the archive can
  choose to open it directly and work on it in-place (all changes
  will be written back into the zip file), or extract it and Merge
  the selected layer project files into their current project.

This feature has been in use at ISA for many years and we consider
  it essential to using JUMP to work on projects with multiple
  people editing at the same time.

regards,

Larry Becker
ISA


On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rahkonen Jukka jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi 
wrote:

Hi,

New OJ does not open my old project files which I have created
  in 2009. It is not a problem because I have the corresponding
  OpenJUMP version in the same zip file. Big advantage from a
  small footprint. I still wonder what has  changed and how the
  old project files could be edited to be usasable with a fresh
  OJ.

It would be nice to be able to save the project file to that
  datasource path would be relational to JUMP_HOME or something.
  That would make it possible to deliver data, project, styles
  and software all together - unzip and launch and you are ready
  to work in one minute. You cannot do that with ArcGIS but I
  guess it might be possible to do with OpenJUMP.  It is already
  possible if operation system gives USB disk the same volume
  letter in the lottery but that is not always the case and
  users without admin rights cannot change volume letters at
  least on Windows.

-Jukka Rahkonen-
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[JPP-Devel] Cannot open old project file

2012-01-10 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi,

New OJ does not open my old project files which I have created in 2009. It is 
not a problem because I have the corresponding OpenJUMP version in the same zip 
file. Big advantage from a small footprint. I still wonder what has  changed 
and how the old project files could be edited to be usasable with a fresh OJ.

It would be nice to be able to save the project file to that datasource path 
would be relational to JUMP_HOME or something. That would make it possible to 
deliver data, project, styles and software all together - unzip and launch and 
you are ready to work in one minute. You cannot do that with ArcGIS but I guess 
it might be possible to do with OpenJUMP.  It is already possible if operation 
system gives USB disk the same volume letter in the lottery but that is not 
always the case and users without admin rights cannot change volume letters at 
least on Windows.

-Jukka Rahkonen-
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cannot open old project file

2012-01-10 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi,
 Hi,

 New OJ does not open my old project files which I have created in 2009. It is 
 not a problem because I have the corresponding OpenJUMP version in the same 
 zip file. Big advantage from a small footprint. I still wonder what has  
 changed and how the old project files could be edited to be usasable with a 
 fresh OJ.
Have you got error messages ? Is it just a matter of unrecognized paths 
or some incompatible change.
Anyway, this would be interesting to gather old projects and to aks 
benjamin how he would include
a unit test to keep sure new version don't break the compatibility :o)

 It would be nice to be able to save the project file to that datasource path 
 would be relational to JUMP_HOME or something. That would make it possible to 
 deliver data, project, styles and software all together - unzip and launch 
 and you are ready to work in one minute. You cannot do that with ArcGIS but I 
 guess it might be possible to do with OpenJUMP.  It is already possible if 
 operation system gives USB disk the same volume letter in the lottery but 
 that is not always the case and users without admin rights cannot change 
 volume letters at least on Windows.
Have you ever try update project from cadplan (I think I did not).
Maybe a plugin to re-locate a project is a good alternative to an option 
to record project with relative paths.

Michaël

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cannot open old project file

2012-01-10 Thread Larry Becker
Hi Jukka,

  I haven't posted for a while, but I'm still listening.  Your post
reminded me that OJ still doesn't have one of my favorite features in
SkyJUMP: the layer file.  These are basically project files per layer.
They are created when you use the Archive Selected Datasets menu option.
It creates a zip file containing all of the selected layers (using their
current file format) along with a project file (with the jmp extension)
that has the same filename as each archived layer .  The zip file can then
be used to deliver data along with associated style information to others
without any file path problems.  The recipient of the archive can choose to
open it directly and work on it in-place (all changes will be written back
into the zip file), or extract it and Merge the selected layer project
files into their current project.

This feature has been in use at ISA for many years and we consider it
essential to using JUMP to work on projects with multiple people editing at
the same time.

regards,

Larry Becker
ISA

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rahkonen Jukka
jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fiwrote:

 Hi,

 New OJ does not open my old project files which I have created in 2009. It
 is not a problem because I have the corresponding OpenJUMP version in the
 same zip file. Big advantage from a small footprint. I still wonder what
 has  changed and how the old project files could be edited to be usasable
 with a fresh OJ.

 It would be nice to be able to save the project file to that datasource
 path would be relational to JUMP_HOME or something. That would make it
 possible to deliver data, project, styles and software all together - unzip
 and launch and you are ready to work in one minute. You cannot do that with
 ArcGIS but I guess it might be possible to do with OpenJUMP.  It is already
 possible if operation system gives USB disk the same volume letter in the
 lottery but that is not always the case and users without admin rights
 cannot change volume letters at least on Windows.

 -Jukka Rahkonen-

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Re: [JPP-Devel] Cannot open old project file

2012-01-10 Thread Benjamin Gudehus
 New OJ does not open my old project files which I have created in 2009. It
 is not a problem because I have the corresponding OpenJUMP version in the
 same zip file. Big advantage from a small footprint. I still wonder what
 has  changed and how the old project files could be edited to be usasable
 with a fresh OJ.
 Have you got error messages ? Is it just a matter of unrecognized paths or
 some incompatible change.
 Anyway, this would be interesting to gather old projects and to aks benjamin
 how he would include
 a unit test to keep sure new version don't break the compatibility :o) 


The test enviroment contains already a function to open files
(TestTools.openFile()). I would first look what exceptions will throw when
a project could not be loaded. We also could make some assertions on the
Task object. That would be the easy part.

If this would not fullfill sufficient needs we'll need to test some methods
directly.

2012/1/10 Larry Becker becker.la...@gmail.com

 I haven't posted for a while, but I'm still listening.  Your post reminded
 me that OJ still doesn't have one of my favorite features in SkyJUMP: the
 layer file.  These are basically project files per layer.  They are created
 when you use the Archive Selected Datasets menu option.  It creates a zip
 file containing all of the selected layers (using their current file
 format) along with a project file (with the jmp extension) that has the
 same filename as each archived layer .  The zip file can then be used to
 deliver data along with associated style information to others without any
 file path problems.  The recipient of the archive can choose to open it
 directly and work on it in-place (all changes will be written back into the
 zip file), or extract it and Merge the selected layer project files into
 their current project.


I also thought about the problems with absolute paths. Maybe we could add
both
a relative path and an absolute path to the project file. The file on the
relative path
would tried first and when not found the file on the absolute path would
tried to load.
This would also keep compatibility to older versions of OpenJUMP.
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