Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi, I agree, the new feature is totally in line with the most of OpenJUMP: simple, useful, and works fine. -Jukka- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Hi Michaël, I tested it. It works fine: simple and useful. And the name is self explaining. thanks Peppe 2015-04-18 9:50 GMT+02:00 Michaël Michaud m.michael.mich...@orange.frmailto:m.michael.mich...@orange.fr: Hi all, I just added a new Snapping policy Snap on LineString being edited. I had to make some choices : - I added it as a separate option - the option is active for vertex snapping only (it can be added for line snapping too, but IMHO, it is not very useful) - the option is active for linestring edition only (I found that activating such a feature for polygon is dangerous as it tends to create polygons with self-intersection) Please try (r4401+) and report, Michaël Le 09/04/2015 13:47, Uwe Dalluege a écrit : Hi, sorry, I think Jukka is right! It works with three points. I made a wrong test! Sorry again! Uwe Am 09.04.2015tel:09.04.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Uwe Dalluege: Hi Jukka, I think this does not work. When you draw a triangle with LineString you will get an quadrangle when you close the linesegment. It is not so easy for me to teach new users why OJ can not catch the first point. But you posted some solutions I can teach. Thank you again. Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015tel:09.04.2015 um 13:16 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, Found one more option: To draw a linestring, select it and use Right click menu Convert selected geometries – Close open line segments. Attach tool to EZ Buttons and usage will be rather simple. Selecting the line is an extra step, though. -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Hi Jukka, right. A couple of years ago I had to work on CAD datas using a GIS, that's why I developed those CAD Extensions. For a regular GIS user maybe Ede's implementation to convert geometries is enough. On the other hand I feel we should consider to rewrite the editing toolboox, to make it more simple and flexible. For instance grouping drawing and constrained drawing tools into a single one. And maybe adding new functionalities, like closing linestring . Peppe 2015-04-09 9:23 GMT+02:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fimailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fimailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi: Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExtension/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015tel:09.04.2015 tel:09.04.2015tel:09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi Michaël, I tested it. It works fine: simple and useful. And the name is self explaining. thanks Peppe 2015-04-18 9:50 GMT+02:00 Michaël Michaud m.michael.mich...@orange.fr: Hi all, I just added a new Snapping policy Snap on LineString being edited. I had to make some choices : - I added it as a separate option - the option is active for vertex snapping only (it can be added for line snapping too, but IMHO, it is not very useful) - the option is active for linestring edition only (I found that activating such a feature for polygon is dangerous as it tends to create polygons with self-intersection) Please try (r4401+) and report, Michaël Le 09/04/2015 13:47, Uwe Dalluege a écrit : Hi, sorry, I think Jukka is right! It works with three points. I made a wrong test! Sorry again! Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Uwe Dalluege: Hi Jukka, I think this does not work. When you draw a triangle with LineString you will get an quadrangle when you close the linesegment. It is not so easy for me to teach new users why OJ can not catch the first point. But you posted some solutions I can teach. Thank you again. Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 13:16 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, Found one more option: To draw a linestring, select it and use Right click menu Convert selected geometries – Close open line segments. Attach tool to EZ Buttons and usage will be rather simple. Selecting the line is an extra step, though. -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Hi Jukka, right. A couple of years ago I had to work on CAD datas using a GIS, that's why I developed those CAD Extensions. For a regular GIS user maybe Ede's implementation to convert geometries is enough. On the other hand I feel we should consider to rewrite the editing toolboox, to make it more simple and flexible. For instance grouping drawing and constrained drawing tools into a single one. And maybe adding new functionalities, like closing linestring . Peppe 2015-04-09 9:23 GMT+02:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi: Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExtension/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 tel:09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp -
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi all, I just added a new Snapping policy Snap on LineString being edited. I had to make some choices : - I added it as a separate option - the option is active for vertex snapping only (it can be added for line snapping too, but IMHO, it is not very useful) - the option is active for linestring edition only (I found that activating such a feature for polygon is dangerous as it tends to create polygons with self-intersection) Please try (r4401+) and report, Michaël Le 09/04/2015 13:47, Uwe Dalluege a écrit : Hi, sorry, I think Jukka is right! It works with three points. I made a wrong test! Sorry again! Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Uwe Dalluege: Hi Jukka, I think this does not work. When you draw a triangle with LineString you will get an quadrangle when you close the linesegment. It is not so easy for me to teach new users why OJ can not catch the first point. But you posted some solutions I can teach. Thank you again. Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 13:16 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, Found one more option: To draw a linestring, select it and use Right click menu Convert selected geometries – Close open line segments. Attach tool to EZ Buttons and usage will be rather simple. Selecting the line is an extra step, though. -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Hi Jukka, right. A couple of years ago I had to work on CAD datas using a GIS, that's why I developed those CAD Extensions. For a regular GIS user maybe Ede's implementation to convert geometries is enough. On the other hand I feel we should consider to rewrite the editing toolboox, to make it more simple and flexible. For instance grouping drawing and constrained drawing tools into a single one. And maybe adding new functionalities, like closing linestring . Peppe 2015-04-09 9:23 GMT+02:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi: Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExtension/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 tel:09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi Jukka, I think this does not work. When you draw a triangle with LineString you will get an quadrangle when you close the linesegment. It is not so easy for me to teach new users why OJ can not catch the first point. But you posted some solutions I can teach. Thank you again. Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 13:16 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, Found one more option: To draw a linestring, select it and use Right click menu Convert selected geometries – Close open line segments. Attach tool to EZ Buttons and usage will be rather simple. Selecting the line is an extra step, though. -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Hi Jukka, right. A couple of years ago I had to work on CAD datas using a GIS, that's why I developed those CAD Extensions. For a regular GIS user maybe Ede's implementation to convert geometries is enough. On the other hand I feel we should consider to rewrite the editing toolboox, to make it more simple and flexible. For instance grouping drawing and constrained drawing tools into a single one. And maybe adding new functionalities, like closing linestring . Peppe 2015-04-09 9:23 GMT+02:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi: Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExtension/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 tel:09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi Jukka, right. A couple of years ago I had to work on CAD datas using a GIS, that's why I developed those CAD Extensions. For a regular GIS user maybe Ede's implementation to convert geometries is enough. On the other hand I feel we should consider to rewrite the editing toolboox, to make it more simple and flexible. For instance grouping drawing and constrained drawing tools into a single one. And maybe adding new functionalities, like closing linestring . Peppe 2015-04-09 9:23 GMT+02:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi: Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExtension/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExtension/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi, Found one more option: To draw a linestring, select it and use Right click menu Convert selected geometries – Close open line segments. Attach tool to EZ Buttons and usage will be rather simple. Selecting the line is an extra step, though. -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Hi Jukka, right. A couple of years ago I had to work on CAD datas using a GIS, that's why I developed those CAD Extensions. For a regular GIS user maybe Ede's implementation to convert geometries is enough. On the other hand I feel we should consider to rewrite the editing toolboox, to make it more simple and flexible. For instance grouping drawing and constrained drawing tools into a single one. And maybe adding new functionalities, like closing linestring . Peppe 2015-04-09 9:23 GMT+02:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fimailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi: Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExtension/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015tel:09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi, Works for me. Draw an arrow A-B-C. Use the Close linestring tool and it comes a triangle with points A-B-C-A. -Jukka- -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Uwe Dalluege [mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de] Lähetetty: 9. huhtikuuta 2015 14:28 Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString Hi Jukka, I think this does not work. When you draw a triangle with LineString you will get an quadrangle when you close the linesegment. It is not so easy for me to teach new users why OJ can not catch the first point. But you posted some solutions I can teach. Thank you again. Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 13:16 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, Found one more option: To draw a linestring, select it and use Right click menu Convert selected geometries - Close open line segments. Attach tool to EZ Buttons and usage will be rather simple. Selecting the line is an extra step, though. -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Hi Jukka, right. A couple of years ago I had to work on CAD datas using a GIS, that's why I developed those CAD Extensions. For a regular GIS user maybe Ede's implementation to convert geometries is enough. On the other hand I feel we should consider to rewrite the editing toolboox, to make it more simple and flexible. For instance grouping drawing and constrained drawing tools into a single one. And maybe adding new functionalities, like closing linestring . Peppe 2015-04-09 9:23 GMT+02:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi: Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExte nsion/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 tel:09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi, sorry, I think Jukka is right! It works with three points. I made a wrong test! Sorry again! Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Uwe Dalluege: Hi Jukka, I think this does not work. When you draw a triangle with LineString you will get an quadrangle when you close the linesegment. It is not so easy for me to teach new users why OJ can not catch the first point. But you posted some solutions I can teach. Thank you again. Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 13:16 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, Found one more option: To draw a linestring, select it and use Right click menu Convert selected geometries – Close open line segments. Attach tool to EZ Buttons and usage will be rather simple. Selecting the line is an extra step, though. -Jukka Rahkonen- Giuseppe Aruta wrote: Hi Jukka, right. A couple of years ago I had to work on CAD datas using a GIS, that's why I developed those CAD Extensions. For a regular GIS user maybe Ede's implementation to convert geometries is enough. On the other hand I feel we should consider to rewrite the editing toolboox, to make it more simple and flexible. For instance grouping drawing and constrained drawing tools into a single one. And maybe adding new functionalities, like closing linestring . Peppe 2015-04-09 9:23 GMT+02:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML) jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi mailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi: Hi Uwe, I would guess that such use case was not on the list of features when the original JUMP was developed or since that. However, I can see that you are not the first one with that wish and Peppe has made such a tool to his CAD extension. The name of the tool in Draw closed linestring. Download the extension from https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/PlugIn/CADExtension/ and drop it into lib\ext. New tools are added into the standard edit tool box. -Jukka- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 tel:09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi, thank you for the tips. Is there a reason why OJ can not catch the first point directly? Regards Uwe Am 09.04.2015 um 06:46 schrieb Rahkonen Jukka (MML): Hi, The trick is that when you are drawing a new feature the new vertices do not snap to the newly added vertices of that non-finalized geometry. There are workarounds: - digitize first a point and snap the start and end points of the line into it - digitize a polygon and convert it into linestring or linearring later. If you really need a geometry that is LINEARRING in WKT (not just LINESTRING with the same start and end point) you must either draw a polygon and use geometry converter, or draw a line and convert it by editing the WKT from LINESTRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) into LINEARRING ( 666 435, 714 307, 590 344, 666 435 ) -Jukka Rahkonen- Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi, Matthias Scholz wrote: Hi Uwe, yes there is a small trick, if we talk about the same problem. 1) go to Customize - Options - Snap/Grid - Snap to vertices and select the right snapping tolerance for your needs. 2) draw the draw the linestring 3) through the snap funktion you can easy draw the last point on the first one :-) It is not that easy. The newly added vertices which belong to the red drawing line are not snap-able before the geometry is finalized. I usually digitize a separate point feature first for snapping and delete it later, or draw a polygon and convert it into line afterwards. I do not even think that it is a bug to not to snap into the vertices which belong to the drawing. Only occasion when it would be useful is precisely this case and it might indeed be good if the first vertex of the linestring that is under construction would be snap-able. However, the vertices in the middle of the drawing line should not be, IMHO. In theory (OGC SimpleFeature) a closed Linestring is a Linestring with the same start- and endpoint. If you have done this with the snapping function OJ handels this two point as one point during a movement. And a Linearring is a special case of a Linearring. You can read this in the JTS documentation: http://tsusiatsoftware.net/jts/javadoc/com/vividsolutions/jts/geom/LineString.html http://tsusiatsoftware.net/jts/javadoc/com/vividsolutions/jts/geom/LineString.html Or take a look in the OGC document https://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=829 on page 2-1 figure 2.1 and chapter 2.1.6 at page 2-5. Here you can read that a closed Linestring a Linearring is. With both (closed) geometries you cannot made a area computation! This is in OJ only with a Polygon possible. Don't know why It is still just a line even it makes a loop and lines do not have area, just length. Regards Matthias Hi Uwe, 1) draw a polygon 2) select the item 3) right click -Convert select geometies/layers to-LinearRing (or Linestring) Peppe 2015-04-08 15:21 GMT+02:00 Uwe Dalluege uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi Uwe, 1) draw a polygon 2) select the item 3) right click -Convert select geometies/layers to-LinearRing (or Linestring) Peppe 2015-04-08 15:21 GMT+02:00 Uwe Dalluege uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
[JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
On 08.04.2015 15:21, Uwe Dalluege wrote: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe not sure you can. you will always draw either a Polygon, LineString or Points. you can however draw a Polygon or Line and use the plugin Convert Selected/Layer available in Tools-Edit Geometry or mapview context menu to 1. add a closing Line Segment (not needed for Polygons) 2. convert to LinearRing ..ede -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Draw a closed LineString
Hi Uwe, yes there is a small trick, if we talk about the same problem. 1) go to Customize - Options - Snap/Grid - Snap to vertices and select the right snapping tolerance for your needs. 2) draw the draw the linestring 3) through the snap funktion you can easy draw the last point on the first one :-) In theory (OGC SimpleFeature) a closed Linestring is a Linestring with the same start- and endpoint. If you have done this with the snapping function OJ handels this two point as one point during a movement. And a Linearring is a special case of a Linearring. You can read this in the JTS documentation: http://tsusiatsoftware.net/jts/javadoc/com/vividsolutions/jts/geom/LineString.html http://tsusiatsoftware.net/jts/javadoc/com/vividsolutions/jts/geom/LineString.html Or take a look in the OGC document https://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=829 on page 2-1 figure 2.1 and chapter 2.1.6 at page 2-5. Here you can read that a closed Linestring a Linearring is. With both (closed) geometries you cannot made a area computation! This is in OJ only with a Polygon possible. Don't know why Regards Matthias Hi Uwe, 1) draw a polygon 2) select the item 3) right click -Convert select geometies/layers to-LinearRing (or Linestring) Peppe 2015-04-08 15:21 GMT+02:00 Uwe Dalluege uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de mailto:uwe.dallu...@hcu-hamburg.de: Hi, how can I draw a closed LineString (LinearRing)? When I try to catch the first point of the LineString with the last point of the same LineString OpenJUMP does not catch the first point. Is there a trick? Regards Uwe -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel