Re: [j-nsp] Junos 10.4R8 on MX (PR 701928)

2012-01-24 Thread Daniel Verlouw
Hi,

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 08:25, Daniel Roesen d...@cluenet.de wrote:
 Daniel (waiting for over a year now for a 10.4 without major bugs...)

same here...

Am I the only one who finds it extremely annoying and disturbing that
critical bugs get *introduced* this far down into an E-EOL train!?
And where's the technical bulletin that alerts all of us?
Interesting that j-nsp is a better source of information than
JTAC...

BR, Daniel (2)
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Re: [j-nsp] packet based on jseries

2012-01-24 Thread Phil Mayers
pkc mls pkc_...@yahoo.fr wrote:

Hi all,

Could anyone indicate the latest junos version that supports packet 
based on J series ?
(the last I can find is 9.6).

Is there a reason why there was no recent junos that can run packet
based ?

thanks.

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You can force packet based on newer junos globally per address family, or 
selectively with an interface firewall filter. It works fine. Don't have a link 
right now but you should find it via Google.

why the move to flow based, who knows. It has been discussed to death on the 
list. See the archives.
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[j-nsp] Frame loss during Ethernet test

2012-01-24 Thread Gökhan Gümüş
Dear all,

One of our customer complaining a small amount of frame loss on their
service.
I see that lost packets when i compare input and output statistics on the
interface.
We are terminating service with ccc configuration.
At remote end, we have a hardware loop and customer connects its tester to
A-end sends traffic.
When we run the test for 2-3 mins, we have no frame loss but at longer test
we start to see 10-20 frame loss.
Frames are lost when our PE puts sent test traffic into corrresponding LSP
but there is no issue in our LSP.

I do not know the exact principle of these testers but i checked all the
possible reasons which may cause frame loss
Delay, errors on the line, oversubscription, etc...None of them is an issue
during test.

Is there anybody who has such an experience with Ethernet testers?

Thanks and regards,
Gokhan
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Re: [j-nsp] packet based on jseries

2012-01-24 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2012/1/23 pkc mls pkc_...@yahoo.fr

 Hi all,

 Could anyone indicate the latest junos version that supports packet based
 on J series ?
 (the last I can find is 9.6).

 Is there a reason why there was no recent junos that can run packet based ?

 thanks.


Hi,

You can activate packet based routing on recent Junos SRX/J-Series devices :

http://juniper.cluepon.net/Enabling_packet_based_forwarding

Pierre-Yves
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 10.4R8 on MX (PR 701928)

2012-01-24 Thread Paul Stewart
We recently decided it's time to upgrade from 10.0R3.10 and kind of
wondering now where to go as JTAC recommends 10.4R8 we've been running
10.0R3.10 on several boxes now for about 2 years and only recently got
bitten by a bug (which we understand and know how to work around *now*).   I
gotta a feeling we're going to be sitting on 10.0R3.10 for a while longer ;)

Paul


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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 10.4R8 on MX (PR 701928)

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 03:20:44PM +, OBrien, Will wrote:
 It's been recommended to go to r7.5 for now if I want to stick with 10.4.
 
 Thoughts? 

10.4R6 showstopper:
PR/676729 - occasional lock-up of traffic from/to controlplane (e.g. LACP)
on 16x10GE MPC PFEs.
(and a lot other serious problems)

10.4R7 showstopper:
PR/695895 - AE loadbalancing broken after member link flap when using
minimum-links feature

So neither R7 nor R6 usable for us.

Best regards,
Daniel (waiting for over a year now for a 10.4 without major bugs...)

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Re: [j-nsp] NSM API resources with SRX

2012-01-24 Thread Pavel Lunin

 Have a question about SPACE, Is it better to manage SRXes with space? Have
 not tried space yet.

Last time we checked (May-June 2011) it was very very very raw. Too many
bugs, too much of nonworking features etc.

E. g. IPSec point-and-click configuration (which was the main goal of the
project) just didn't work at all because the browser code was broken, some
buttons which you needed to press, were randomly disabled.The idea of
preprovisioned config, which can be stored on a usb flash together with a
desired software image and plugged into an out-of-box remote SRX is also
very cute, but it didn't work.

Most of things we tested were related to Security and Campus designer
modules (or however it's called, I forgot).

And, of course. Don't even try to run in on a VM with less than 8 Gigs of
RAM. No joke, this is a minimum requirement even if you only want to test
it with two devices in a lab. Otherwise be ready to wait until it swaps
everything. Java rules.

But, I must say, the overall idea and many things looked cute. If they ever
make it work, it'll become a lovely product :)
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Re: [j-nsp] Frame loss during Ethernet test

2012-01-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-24 11:03 +0100), Gökhan Gümüş wrote:

 We are terminating service with ccc configuration.

 At remote end, we have a hardware loop and customer connects its tester to
 A-end sends traffic.
 When we run the test for 2-3 mins, we have no frame loss but at longer test
 we start to see 10-20 frame loss.

 Frames are lost when our PE puts sent test traffic into corrresponding LSP
 but there is no issue in our LSP.

I guess this is ethernet over MPLS, point-to-point service then? You're not
explicitly stating it though, but I'm working on that assumption.

One possible cause for this is, that customer is doing wire-rate traffic
and your access to customer is same capacity as your backbone. Backbone
needs considerably more overhead (another set of MAC addresses, at least
two labels) so wire rate at customer port would be excessive rate in core,
if this is the case, you should see latency starting to increase linearly
right from the start and then eventually when buffers are exhausted packet
drops.

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Re: [j-nsp] Frame loss during Ethernet test

2012-01-24 Thread Tim Jackson
This isn't running on an MPC carded MX running 10.2 code is it?

There was a bug that bit us that had some random small bits of frame
loss on CCC circuits on MX80 on 10.2.. I can't recall the bug ID, but
it was fixed in 10.4R6.. If I remember right, check your logs and
you'll see some parity errors scrolling through when there is frame
loss.

--
Tim

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:03 AM, Gökhan Gümüş ggu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 One of our customer complaining a small amount of frame loss on their
 service.
 I see that lost packets when i compare input and output statistics on the
 interface.
 We are terminating service with ccc configuration.
 At remote end, we have a hardware loop and customer connects its tester to
 A-end sends traffic.
 When we run the test for 2-3 mins, we have no frame loss but at longer test
 we start to see 10-20 frame loss.
 Frames are lost when our PE puts sent test traffic into corrresponding LSP
 but there is no issue in our LSP.

 I do not know the exact principle of these testers but i checked all the
 possible reasons which may cause frame loss
 Delay, errors on the line, oversubscription, etc...None of them is an issue
 during test.

 Is there anybody who has such an experience with Ethernet testers?

 Thanks and regards,
 Gokhan
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[j-nsp] JN0-522 (JNCIA-FWV)

2012-01-24 Thread Cláudio Duarte
Dear Gentlemen

Recently I got a spot in a Company, but I have a deadline of 30 days to get
the certification JN0-522(JNCIA-FWV)
I would like to know what is the path and recomendations to achieve that
goal.
I'm already reading the books and documentations found in the Internet.

Thanks very much.
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Re: [j-nsp] JN0-522 (JNCIA-FWV)

2012-01-24 Thread Paul Stewart
FastTrack on the Juniper site should help a lot...

Paul


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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:25 AM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] JN0-522 (JNCIA-FWV)

Dear Gentlemen

Recently I got a spot in a Company, but I have a deadline of 30 days to get
the certification JN0-522(JNCIA-FWV) I would like to know what is the path
and recomendations to achieve that goal.
I'm already reading the books and documentations found in the Internet.

Thanks very much.
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[j-nsp] GRE packet fragmentation on j-series

2012-01-24 Thread Lukasz Martyniak
Hi all 

I have some problem with gre tunnels. I need to fragment packages in tunnel. I 
run gre between two jseries (junos 10.4R6) and lunch MPLS on it. The problem 
looks like that packages with MTU above 1476 are not fragmented/reassembled and 
are dropped.


interfaces gr-0/0/0 
unit 10 {
clear-dont-fragment-bit;
description Tulne to r1-lab;
tunnel {
source 10.200.0.1;
destination 10.200.0.2;
allow-fragmentation;
path-mtu-discovery;
}
family inet {
mtu 1500;
address 100.100.100.1/30;
}
family mpls {
}
}

Have someone have similar problem ? is there a simple way to fix this ?

Best Lukasz 
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 10.4R8 on MX (PR 701928)

2012-01-24 Thread Paul Goyette
Just to be a little bit more specific...

All of the following are I-chip based, and are affected by 
this issue:

DPC
ADPC
MS-DPC
MX-DPC

The MPC is not I-chip based and is not affected.

The PR synopsis has been updated.

Again, sorry for any confusion that this has caused.


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Goyette
 Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:58 AM
 To: 'Daniel Hilj'; bas
 Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Junos 10.4R8 on MX (PR 701928)
 
 I have confirmed that this affects only DPC, and the PR Synopsis
 has been updated accordingly.
 
 Sorry for the confusion.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-
  boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Hilj
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:21 AM
  To: bas
  Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 10.4R8 on MX (PR 701928)
 
  Hi,
 
  This is what you see if you use their beta PR search engine.
 
 
 
  JUNOS Problem Report
 
  Number  PR701928
  Title   MPC may restart with backtrace in ia_wpkt_next() routine
  Release Note
  Introduced in Junos software version 10.4R8, a DPC may restart
  unexpectedly with the following error messages:
   [Oct 25 04:21:08.749 LOG: Err] ia_wpkt_next : pkt_ring[937] has a
  packet 0x421fea20
 
 
  SeverityCritical
  Status  Closed
  Last Modified   2012-01-23 06:40:04 PST
  Affected-Releases   10.4R8
  Resolved In
  Product MX-series
  Functional Area software
  Problem
  This is a critical defect which effects only DPC, and not MPC.
  Customers with DPC is discourage using Junos 10.4R8, 10.4S8(A), and
  10.4S8(B).
 
 
 
 
 
 
  23 jan 2012 kl. 16:16 skrev bas
  kilo...@gmail.commailto:kilo...@gmail.com:
 
  Hi,
 
  On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Daniel Hilj
  daniel.h...@ipnett.semailto:daniel.h...@ipnett.se wrote:
 
  This is a critical defect which effects only DPC, and not MPC.
  Customers with DPC is discourage using Junos 10.4R8, 10.4S8(A), and
  10.4S8(B).
 
  Strange, I see:
 
  ---
  SYNOPSISMPC may restart with backtrace in ia_wpkt_next() routine
  RELEASE NOTEIntroduced in Junos software version 10.4R8, a DPC
 may
  restart unexpectedly [snip]
  ---
 
  So the Synopsis mentions MPC..
 
  Bas
 
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Re: [j-nsp] Junos 10.4R8 on MX (PR 701928)

2012-01-24 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Daniel Verlouw dan...@shunoshu.net [2012-01-24 10:13]:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 08:25, Daniel Roesen d...@cluenet.de wrote:
  Daniel (waiting for over a year now for a 10.4 without major bugs...)
 
 same here...
 
 Am I the only one who finds it extremely annoying and disturbing that
 critical bugs get *introduced* this far down into an E-EOL train!?
 And where's the technical bulletin that alerts all of us?
 Interesting that j-nsp is a better source of information than
 JTAC...

Hi,

we're told that beginning with 11.4 the release process was changed to
better prevent these things. At the moment we're testing 11.2 because
we need MC-LAG and other features which are more mature in 11.2 as
they are in 10.4. That will force us to change to 11.4 in the near
future as 11.2 support will end in August.

Regards

Sebastian

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[j-nsp] QinQ between Cisco/Juniper with layer2-tunneling and VPLS

2012-01-24 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
Hi,

has anyone working QinQ between Cisco and Juniper running over VPLS
and with working layer2-tunneling? We have a setup like this:

EX4200 -- QinQ -- MX === VPLS === MX -- QinQ -- Cisco

We see that on both ends of the QinQ tunnel CTP/STP/LLDP Pakets are
encapsulated but on the other side nothing gets decapsulated.

Regards

sebastian

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Re: [j-nsp] QinQ between Cisco/Juniper with layer2-tunneling and VPLS

2012-01-24 Thread Chris Kawchuk
1. EX4200 - I assume this following:

ethernet-switching-options {
 dot1q-tunneling {
 ether-type 0x8100;
 }
}

vlans {
 My-QinQ-VLAN {
vlan-id 1000;
dot1q-tunneling {
layer2-protocol-tunneling {
all;
}
}
 }
}


2. Note that the EX4200's re-write the MAC Address when using QinQ (i.e. STP 
MAC 01:80:c2:00:00:00 becomes PVST+ MAC 01:00:0c:cc:cc:cd, for example). Ensure 
you are un-translating the MAC address at the far end MX or at the Cisco; else 
you end up with a regular RSTP Packet with the wrong Destination MAC Address.

3. Alternatively, POP the outer Tag on Ingress at the MX; and do the MAC 
destination re-write there (i.e. change it back to normal) before shoving it 
into the VPLS.

- Chris.




On 2012-01-25, at 8:23 AM, Sebastian Wiesinger wrote:

 Hi,
 
 has anyone working QinQ between Cisco and Juniper running over VPLS
 and with working layer2-tunneling? We have a setup like this:
 
 EX4200 -- QinQ -- MX === VPLS === MX -- QinQ -- Cisco
 
 We see that on both ends of the QinQ tunnel CTP/STP/LLDP Pakets are
 encapsulated but on the other side nothing gets decapsulated.
 
 Regards
 
 sebastian
 
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Re: [j-nsp] QinQ between Cisco/Juniper with layer2-tunneling and VPLS

2012-01-24 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Chris Kawchuk juniperd...@gmail.com [2012-01-24 22:54]:
 2. Note that the EX4200's re-write the MAC Address when using QinQ
 (i.e. STP MAC 01:80:c2:00:00:00 becomes PVST+ MAC 01:00:0c:cc:cc:cd,
 for example). Ensure you are un-translating the MAC address at the
 far end MX or at the Cisco; else you end up with a regular RSTP
 Packet with the wrong Destination MAC Address.

Hi,

the Cisco should be decapsulating it (layer2-tunneling is active on
both ends) but it seems no packets are arriving to be decapsulated.

Regards,

Sebastian

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Re: [j-nsp] GRE packet fragmentation on j-series

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Arseniev
My understanding is that GRE fragmentation should occur if egress interface 
MTU is  GRE pkt size.
For GRE reassembly, you need IDP policy, this means high memory SRX model. 
IDP license is not needed.

Rgds
Alex

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From: Lukasz Martyniak lmartyn...@man.szczecin.pl

To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: [j-nsp] GRE packet fragmentation on j-series



Hi all

I have some problem with gre tunnels. I need to fragment packages in 
tunnel. I run gre between two jseries (junos 10.4R6) and lunch MPLS on it. 
The problem looks like that packages with MTU above 1476 are not 
fragmented/reassembled and are dropped.



interfaces gr-0/0/0
unit 10 {
   clear-dont-fragment-bit;
   description Tulne to r1-lab;
   tunnel {
   source 10.200.0.1;
   destination 10.200.0.2;
   allow-fragmentation;
   path-mtu-discovery;
   }
   family inet {
   mtu 1500;
   address 100.100.100.1/30;
   }
   family mpls {
   }
}

Have someone have similar problem ? is there a simple way to fix this ?

Best Lukasz
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[j-nsp] Does MS-PIC (Type2 MultiServices 400) work in MX-FPC2?

2012-01-24 Thread Chuck Anderson
Is it possible to reuse a Type2 MS-PIC in an MX-FPC2?  Or is upgrading
to the MS-DPC the only option?  This would be used for stateful
firewall and perhaps some NAT.

Thanks.
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Re: [j-nsp] QinQ between Cisco/Juniper with layer2-tunneling and VPLS

2012-01-24 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Chris Kawchuk juniperd...@gmail.com [2012-01-25 00:10]:
 Heh, then it's a different problem altogether. =)
 
 In your VPLS config, do you have any vlan-id settings set in the
 routing-instance? It's a long shot, else I have no idea why she
 ain't passing traffic...

I have vlan-id all set in the instance and use outer-tag/inner-tag
configuration on the interface unit. It's passing traffic just not the
tunnel'd stuff.

Regards

Sebastian

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Re: [j-nsp] QinQ between Cisco/Juniper with layer2-tunneling and VPLS

2012-01-24 Thread Payam Chychi

On 12-01-24 03:14 PM, Sebastian Wiesinger wrote:

* Chris Kawchukjuniperd...@gmail.com  [2012-01-25 00:10]:

Heh, then it's a different problem altogether. =)

In your VPLS config, do you have any vlan-id settings set in the
routing-instance? It's a long shot, else I have no idea why she
ain't passing traffic...

I have vlan-id all set in the instance and use outer-tag/inner-tag
configuration on the interface unit. It's passing traffic just not the
tunnel'd stuff.

Regards

Sebastian


hey Sebastian,
when doing a cisco to juniper youll have to (i could be wrong here... ) 
manually add pop/push for input/output vlan maps on the juniper side 
under the unit


example:
input-vlan-map pop;
output-vlan-map push;


also on the cisco side make sure you are ignoring encapsulation mismatch 
and mtu mismatch


example:
ignore-encapsulation-mismatch;
ignore-mtu-mismatch;


hope this helps
-Payam

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