Re: [kaffe] Current status of sh3/linux
Hi again, And when I use CC=sh3-linux-gcc NM=sh3-linux-nm AR=sh3-linux-ar \ ../kaffe-snap-04/configure \ --host=sh-linux --build=i686-linux \ --with-staticbin --with-staticlib --with-staticvm --disable-shared \ --enable-pure-java-math \ --disable-sound --without-x --disable-native-awt which, implicityly use pthreads. I got error compiling: TestScript: line -45: 21459 Segmentation fault \ /proj/kaffe/kaffe-snap-04-sh3-linux-sssi/kaffe/kaffe/kaffe-bin -ss 512k -noverify at.dms.kjc.Main -classpath ".:@JAVAX_CRYPTO_JAR@:@GNU_CRYPTO_JAR@:@JAVAX_SECURITY_JAR@:../../../kaffe-snap-04/test/regression:compile_time:.:::/proj/kaffe/kaffe-snap-04/libraries/javalib/kjc.jar:::" -d . ../../../kaffe-snap-04/test/regression/HelloWorldApp.java FAIL: HelloWorldApp.java My kernel is 2.4.13, and sh3 with little endian. Kiyo ___ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] current status?
Hallo Michael, --- Michael Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michael Franz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > How long ago was that? I have a pull from cvs > > that is > > > 2 weeks old and I don't think it works on any > > classes. > > > > There have been major changes to Kaffe in the last > > two weeks. > OK. What has changed in the last 2 weeks that > requites me to have automake? I've patched libltdl in order to fix libtool on amiga and netbsd, and that in turns seemed to have summoned the curse of automake upon anyone using the CVS HEAD. I hope that Jim's latest patch fixed that. It doesn't occur with distribution tarballs generated using make dist, for example, so a workaround if you can't install the latest auto* tools and libtool somewhere on your system would be to create a tarball on a system with the latest autotools. Given that Jim is going to release 1.1.0 today, you might as well just use that when it comes out ;) cheers, dalibor topic __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] current status?
--- Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Franz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > How long ago was that? I have a pull from cvs > that is > > 2 weeks old and I don't think it works on any > classes. > > There have been major changes to Kaffe in the last > two weeks. OK. What has changed in the last 2 weeks that requites me to have automake? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] current status?
Michael Franz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > How long ago was that? I have a pull from cvs that is > 2 weeks old and I don't think it works on any classes. There have been major changes to Kaffe in the last two weeks. -- Greg Wooledge | "Truth belongs to everybody." [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- The Red Hot Chili Peppers http://wooledge.org/~greg/ | pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [kaffe] current status?
> I recently upgraded my iBook and tried in on Mac OS > X 10.2 / PowerPC. > The head of CVS compiled staticly (dynamic linking > hasn't been fixed for > Mac OS X). It did complain about needing automake > in the libltdl > directoy - I'm going to try to fix that today. It > was able to run > "Hello World", but was unable to run kjc (our javac, > needed to recompile > the class libs). I imagine that Linux/PPC would > have similar results. > How long ago was that? I have a pull from cvs that is 2 weeks old and I don't think it works on any classes. It fails 95% of the tests. I have been trying to debug through it, but I am having problems with using gdb (prefer a GUI). I think there is something wrong with the class loader or the threading, but now idea what is the problem. Michael __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] current status?
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:45:46PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 10:37, Andrew Mermell wrote: > > I see that kaffe was included in Redhat 6 but is no longer being distributed > > by them as of RH7.3. From your perspective, why did they do that and what are > > the implications for a redhat user? > > I'm not surprised that they dropped it. Even though Kaffe has been > around since 1997, the project was quite fragmented, and the Java > compatibility was quite lacking. So it has been quite frustrating to > use previous versions of it. I think the 1.1.0 release will be quite a > bit nicer, even though it's just doing to be a "development" release, as > the whole project seems to be gaining some momentum which it didn't have > in the past -- thanks to the hard work of the volunteer developers and > the free Java community. I think the lack of new release for a very long time was one of the reason, another one was the amount of bugs/obsolescence as Java evolved, the third one is the use of the gjc compiler when trying to use the small apps where kaffe was used. I am happy seeing kaffe being actively maintained again, I can't make any promises w.r.t. reinclusion in Red Hat (I'm a Red Hat employee), but my understanding is that if kaffe gets good enough to run non-trivial applications and users of those applications care about running a free JVM, kaffe may be reintroduced. I think this boils down to Kaffe getting Java users outside the embedded system segment, if the project tries to get there and succeeds then it will naturally finds it place back in the Linux (not only Red Hat) systems. I understand that Kaffe will look more attractive to users of embedded systems, maybe the project needs to decide if getting back on general pupose OSes is really a primary target, maybe my perception is just wrong too :-) It was interesting to see the JBoss attempt, I think if Kaffe manage to get robust and complete enough for such applications then it would have a bright future. Another point is the possibility to reuse the work done on the Mono project about JIT'ing apparently they are getting good performances (considering the age of the project), making the economy of scale by reusing another code generator may have a strong impact, they are starting to run Java apps too, this should be investigated IMHO :-) Good luck ! Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | libxml Gnome XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ http://veillard.com/ | ___ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] current status?
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 10:37, Andrew Mermell wrote: > Hello, > Could someone please give me a brief idea of what's happening with kaffe at > this point? Is it in much use on the PowerPC? I recently upgraded my iBook and tried in on Mac OS X 10.2 / PowerPC. The head of CVS compiled staticly (dynamic linking hasn't been fixed for Mac OS X). It did complain about needing automake in the libltdl directoy - I'm going to try to fix that today. It was able to run "Hello World", but was unable to run kjc (our javac, needed to recompile the class libs). I imagine that Linux/PPC would have similar results. > I see that kaffe was included in Redhat 6 but is no longer being distributed > by them as of RH7.3. From your perspective, why did they do that and what are > the implications for a redhat user? I'm not surprised that they dropped it. Even though Kaffe has been around since 1997, the project was quite fragmented, and the Java compatibility was quite lacking. So it has been quite frustrating to use previous versions of it. I think the 1.1.0 release will be quite a bit nicer, even though it's just doing to be a "development" release, as the whole project seems to be gaining some momentum which it didn't have in the past -- thanks to the hard work of the volunteer developers and the free Java community. Cheers, - Jim ___ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] current status?
Hi Andy, --- Andrew Mermell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > Could someone please give me a brief idea of what's happening with kaffe at > this point? Is it in much use on the PowerPC? we've just frozen the code for the first developement branch release, 1.1.0, coming on sunday. recent java apps running with kaffe include freenet, nice, jetty and jython ... it supports java sound, jaxp, regexps, a modern class loading implementation and has a ton of ports. ;) some people have used it on powerpc in embedded settings, there are ports to darwin, linux, machten, aix and netbsd, and there is a powerpc jitter in JanosVM that could be merged in if someone volunteers. I don't think that we have anyone working on the powerpc ports at the moment, so if you can help out, you're more than welcome. I'm not aware of any usage statsics for kaffe, but I'd assume it's 'market share' on darwin and linux should be way below the offerings from ports of sun's implementation, since it doesn't have the feature set of JDK 1.2 yet ... but that's being worked on, in part through cooperation with the GNU Classpath project, in part through cooperation with other sources. > I see that kaffe was included in Redhat 6 but is no longer being distributed > by them as of RH7.3. From your perspective, why did they do that and what > are > the implications for a redhat user? I assume that RedHat decided to concentrate on making its own gcj better instead of supporting several virtual machine/class library/compiler implementations. I can't really speculate about the implications for a RedHat user, since I'm not using RedHat myself. Since kaffe is developing at a rather quick pace, many of our regular mailing list contributors seem to keep up with the developement using anonymous CVS. The developement release series could be an opportunity for distributors to catch up more quickly with the lastest progress. We'll see if they really do it. On the other hand, the code in the CVS is quite useable most of the time ;) cheers, dalibor topic __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe