Re: [kde] KMail freezes after adding address to addressbook

2012-06-29 Thread Duncan
Renaud (Ron) Olgiati posted on Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:21:27 -0400 as
excerpted:

> On Friday 29 Jun 2012 01:17 my mailbox was graced by a message from
> Duncan who wrote:
>> (It's worth noting that pre-akonadi kmail installs may have some mbox
>> mail folders as well.  Claws-mail can work with these directly using a
>> plugin, but it's much better to convert them to mh as well.  Converting
>> mbox is rather easier, however, than converting maildir.
> 
> In fact, the File menu of Claws-Mail has an "Import Mailbox" item which
> seems to work perfectly, but only takes one folder at a time.
> 
> Is there a utility to convert all folders at one go ?

I think I might have used the import mailbox function for a couple of 
folders, where I had been using mbox previously (most of mine were 
maildir, however, as I preferred that because it's a bit more robust), 
and where I wasn't sure the akonadified maildir conversion had worked 
correctly so I wanted to import the mboxes.

I'd recommend it if you have just a few.

There's a mailMBOX plugin available but I've never tried it and don't 
have it installed, so can't say how well it works.  I do believe it was 
broken for a bit, however, and was temporarily removed from the site 
pending an update to work with newer claws-mail, so clearly, you're 
better off doing a conversion to mh if you can, and not worrying about 
it.  But I'm /guessing/ with the plugin, you could just load your mbox 
folders normally, and then simply copy everything from there to new mh 
folders, backing up the old mbox files just in case, and deleting them.  
That way you never actually write to the mboxes, which being many 
messages in a single file, do make me a bit nervous as if that file gets 
corrupted, you lose WAY more than the single message you'd lose with a 
file-per-message scheme such as maildir or mh.

In the scripts (tools) section on the site, there's also 
"convert_mbox.pl", a perl script for doing the conversion from the 
command line.  That might be easier... or not.  I've not used the mbox 
conversion script but if it's at all like the "kmail-mailbox2claws-
mail.pl" script that I used for my maildir conversions (or the 
vcard2xml.py python script I used to convert the address book from 
akonadi/kmail-exported vcards), it's a bit dated and may need some 
hacking to get it to work.  In which case it'd likely be easier just to 
use the menu entry and do it one at a time... unless you have a LOT of 
mboxs, enough to justify the hacking time if it's needed. 

"The site" is click-linked from the about-box, but in case that's not 
convenient, here's a link:

http://www.claws-mail.org/

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
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and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

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Re: [kde] KMail freezes after adding address to addressbook

2012-06-29 Thread Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
On Thursday 28 Jun 2012 02:14 my mailbox was graced by a message from Duncan 
who wrote:
> OK, there's quite some history to explain here, with a not entirely 
> positive result at the end, so...

My thanks for the clear and complete explanation, which conforts me in my plan 
to migrate to Claws-Mail and get rid of KMail. 
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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prevent you from doing what is right.
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Re: [kde] KMail freezes after adding address to addressbook

2012-06-29 Thread J
Duncan wrote:

>One of them, for people that have an IMAP server available (and at least 
>one person reported installing dovecot specifically for this task, then 
>uninstalling it, so that's an option too), is to upload mail to it, then 
>download it to whatever, including claws if that's what they decide to 
>run.  I thought about doing this and would have if necessary (doing the 
>dovecot thing), but as I've never worked with IMAP and the script was 
>available, it was easier for me to hack that into working again, and use 
>it.

I was the one who did that.  It worked well.  I moved my Maildir to Maildir2
(and a copy in Maildir3 in case something went wrong) then pointed the dovecot
"maildir" to ~/MailDir2 and went from there.  Once it was running, it took all
of about 10 minutes to convert over 10 years of email into claws-mail.  I then
just uninstalled dovecot.  The entire procedure took about 30 minutes, mostly
from my lack of dovecot's configuration.  So I ended up with 2 new items...
knowledge of how to install and configure dovecot, and claw-mail with my 10+
year history of email.

J

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[kde] Qt version of the latest kde version for windows

2012-06-29 Thread Daniel Kreuter
Hello guys,

does someone know which version of Qt is used by the windows version
of KDE 4.8.0??
The problem I have is, I want to use Poppler in my Qt program (Qt
4.8.2), but there seems to be a problem with the QtGui4.dll of my Qt
4.8.2 and Poppler of the KDE Win package.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Greetings

Daniel Kreuter
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Re: [kde] KMail freezes after adding address to addressbook

2012-06-29 Thread Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
On Friday 29 Jun 2012 01:17 my mailbox was graced by a message from Duncan who 
wrote:
> (It's worth noting that pre-akonadi kmail installs may have some mbox 
> mail folders as well.  Claws-mail can work with these directly using a 
> plugin, but it's much better to convert them to mh as well.  Converting 
> mbox is rather easier, however, than converting maildir.

In fact, the File menu of Claws-Mail has an "Import Mailbox" item which seems 
to work perfectly, but only takes one folder at a time.

Is there a utility to convert all folders at one go ?
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
-- 
   If your income doesn't keep up with your outgo,
   then your upkeep will be your downfall.

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Re: [kde] KMail freezes after adding address to addressbook

2012-06-29 Thread John Woodhouse
> From: Scott 
> To: kde@mail.kde.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, 28 June 2012, 22:26
> Subject: Re: [kde] KMail freezes after adding address to addressbook
> 
> 
> These problems are why I subscribed to this list. I thought that I was either 
> missing something in plain sight that was causing me to misuse Kmail or that 
> there was some workaround available to make these issues less problematic. I 
> dumped KDE when 4.0 was shoved in my face by Kubuntu, and I had used Kmail 
> for 
> years before that. I only recently returned to KDE in Fedora and found that 
> Kmail was no longer the stable and reliable mail client that I remembered.
> 
> For some time I used Mutt, but I often get mail with attachments in MS Office 
> formats, and Mutt makes handling those a PITA. I like to compose mail in Vim, 
> and that, at least, still works in Kmail. Maybe I should look into Claws 
> Mail. 
> That would have been a more seamless transition from Mutt than Kmail was.
> -- 
> Scott
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> Kmail was so popular I suspect it will be sorted at some point and the 
> question is when, If that doesn't happen no doubt distro's will switch to 
> something else as an unstable email package isn't a viable proposition for 
> some one who's main interest is making use of a pc. It certainly isn't for 
> enterprise wide solutions. The main aim of some distro's :-) Many of us do 
> their testing for them including me.

On my comments about sources of solutions I was just pointing out that there 
are several sources. I keep track of the 3 I mentioned and have also found what 
is going on in Arch of interest at times. I think I have been on this list for 
about 15 years at least, a distro forum for a similar amount of time and the 
kde forum more recently.

As to the comments about distro's when I started things were very clear. Not so 
these days all seem to be more aggressive with updates and problems some more 
so than others but I suspect that's largely down to KDE4 being so new. The fact 
that it's user base is growing again should help with that aspect. Personally I 
hope once again at some point this lists reaches anything up to 50 emails a 
day. :-) I really don't like gnome or the other desktops.

John
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