Re: A way to disable the long-left mouse click shortcut to enter "Edit Mode" / modifying widgets?

2022-08-14 Thread Koeame
>
> Does a right-click activate edit mode directly or via a context menu?
>
It's just a context menu, my apologies, I should have clarified.

>
> Long-click is the traditional way to bring up the context menu in touch
> interfaces; it would not surprise me if the tablet handles this
> autonomously.
>
 It's not a touchpad for human fingers, it's just a projector tablet that
can only sense the pen that comes with it. No touching involved. The pen's
function behaves like a normal left-mouse click for any pressing I do on it
unless I press the other buttons in the pen (which don't really do
anything, I'd have to keybind it ).

>
> Pen click: you mean like clicking the mouse cursor on an object to "grab"
> it? The touch interfaces I am familiar with use a double tap for that.
>
No.

>
> Alternatively: does the unwanted event still occurs if you move the pen a
> tiny bit before 1s has elapsed?
>
Yes, but it sometimes also doesn't do that, too, so good point. I'd like to
make dots and do it perfectly still on drawing programs like Krita and most
of the time it would trigger the functionality.

>
> Finally: I see there are Linux drivers for at least some models. Did you
> install those?! According to the manual I looked at there are many things
> that can be configured via the driver software. Maybe there is also
> something like a bios (firmware) settings screen you can call up when
> booting the tablet? It might be possible there to increase the required
> long-click duration, or even deactivate the feature altogether.
>
I did. For my current distro I used the .rpm (OpenSUSE) version of the
file, because XP-PEN does provide different compressed packages (.deb,
.tar.gz, and .rpm). The drivers work like a charm and I had no problems
with it.

If you find no suitable solution you can always write to the company (
> serv...@xp-pen.com); I'm guessing you paid enough for this device. Long
> ago I was interested in a non-standard application of a graphics tablet
> with pen pressure and tilt detection, to be used from an SGI workstation. I
> got into contact with a product manager, who was eager and interested to
> help me write my own driver.

I'll talk to them if I've found no luck so far.


Re: A way to disable the long-left mouse click shortcut to enter "Edit Mode" / modifying widgets?

2022-08-14 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Sunday August 14 2022 12:02:59 Koeame wrote:

>Also, if I may ask, why would the Edit Mode long-click be a hardcoded
>gesture that I cannot enable or disable if I can just right click and Enter
>Edit Mode that way, or Alt + D for my keyboard shortcut?

Does a right-click activate edit mode directly or via a context menu?

Long-click is the traditional way to bring up the context menu in touch 
interfaces; it would not surprise me if the tablet handles this autonomously.

Pen click: you mean like clicking the mouse cursor on an object to "grab" it? 
The touch interfaces I am familiar with use a double tap for that.

Alternatively: does the unwanted event still occurs if you move the pen a tiny 
bit before 1s has elapsed?

Finally: I see there are Linux drivers for at least some models. Did you 
install those?! According to the manual I looked at there are many things that 
can be configured via the driver software. Maybe there is also something like a 
bios (firmware) settings screen you can call up when booting the tablet? It 
might be possible there to increase the required long-click duration, or even 
deactivate the feature altogether.

If you find no suitable solution you can always write to the company 
(serv...@xp-pen.com); I'm guessing you paid enough for this device. Long ago I 
was interested in a non-standard application of a graphics tablet with pen 
pressure and tilt detection, to be used from an SGI workstation. I got into 
contact with a product manager, who was eager and interested to help me write 
my own driver.

R.


Re: A way to disable the long-left mouse click shortcut to enter "Edit Mode" / modifying widgets?

2022-08-14 Thread Koeame
Hi,

Yes. It just happens when I hold left-click (which is also my pen click)
for one second and it thinks I want to modify widgets based on that (thus
being, Edit Mode). Krita was only pointed as an example for an app I use
alongside, the Long-click is indiscriminate to any program and it still
happens anytime I happen to press for one second. It's also indiscriminate
whichever distro I use with KDE as its DE. I'll take a look at using xev
and synclient and learning how to use it.

Also, if I may ask, why would the Edit Mode long-click be a hardcoded
gesture that I cannot enable or disable if I can just right click and Enter
Edit Mode that way, or Alt + D for my keyboard shortcut?

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:21 AM René J.V. Bertin 
wrote:

> On Saturday August 13 2022 23:44:11 Koeame wrote:
> >Hi, I've been trying to find a way to disable this feature for about a
> year
> >now, and to no avail. I have a XP-PEN projector tablet, counted as a
> second
> >monitor, and when I press and hold my pen for no more than a second, I
> >trigger the "Edit Mode" functionality. This has been an annoying problem
>
>
> NB: this is something for which you may have to ask on the calligra or
> krita (devel) MLs.
>
> Is long-press the normal trigger for edit mode or if not, what is? Some
> mouse/trackpad drivers (which can be in firmware) have hardcoded gestures
> which you cannot modify. I had a tablet PC where the trackpad has hide or
> shade window(s) coupled to a 2-finger gesture I'm used to making for other
> things. On Linux I was able to avoid that by using xev to determine what
> events were being generated. I don't remember exactly how I used that info
> to solve the issue; either via xmodmap or via KDE's global shortcut
> mechanism. In your case synclient may also offer a solution, or whatever
> equivalent exists for the touchscreen driver.
>
> R.
>


Re: A way to disable the long-left mouse click shortcut to enter "Edit Mode" / modifying widgets?

2022-08-14 Thread Koeame
Hi,

Yes. It just happens when I hold left-click (which is also my pen click)
for one second and it thinks I want to modify widgets based on that (thus
being, Edit Mode). Krita was only pointed as an example for an app I use
alongside, the Long-click is indiscriminate to any program and it still
happens anytime I happen to press for one second. It's also indiscriminate
whichever distro I use with KDE as its DE. I'll take a look at using xev
and synclient and learning how to use it.

Also, if I may ask, why would the Edit Mode long-click be a hardcoded
gesture that I cannot enable or disable if I can just right click and Enter
Edit Mode that way, or Alt + D for my keyboard shortcut?

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:21 AM René J.V. Bertin 
wrote:

> On Saturday August 13 2022 23:44:11 Koeame wrote:
> >Hi, I've been trying to find a way to disable this feature for about a
> year
> >now, and to no avail. I have a XP-PEN projector tablet, counted as a
> second
> >monitor, and when I press and hold my pen for no more than a second, I
> >trigger the "Edit Mode" functionality. This has been an annoying problem
>
>
> NB: this is something for which you may have to ask on the calligra or
> krita (devel) MLs.
>
> Is long-press the normal trigger for edit mode or if not, what is? Some
> mouse/trackpad drivers (which can be in firmware) have hardcoded gestures
> which you cannot modify. I had a tablet PC where the trackpad has hide or
> shade window(s) coupled to a 2-finger gesture I'm used to making for other
> things. On Linux I was able to avoid that by using xev to determine what
> events were being generated. I don't remember exactly how I used that info
> to solve the issue; either via xmodmap or via KDE's global shortcut
> mechanism. In your case synclient may also offer a solution, or whatever
> equivalent exists for the touchscreen driver.
>
> R.
>


Re: A way to disable the long-left mouse click shortcut to enter "Edit Mode" / modifying widgets?

2022-08-14 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Saturday August 13 2022 23:44:11 Koeame wrote:
>Hi, I've been trying to find a way to disable this feature for about a year
>now, and to no avail. I have a XP-PEN projector tablet, counted as a second
>monitor, and when I press and hold my pen for no more than a second, I
>trigger the "Edit Mode" functionality. This has been an annoying problem


NB: this is something for which you may have to ask on the calligra or krita 
(devel) MLs.

Is long-press the normal trigger for edit mode or if not, what is? Some 
mouse/trackpad drivers (which can be in firmware) have hardcoded gestures which 
you cannot modify. I had a tablet PC where the trackpad has hide or shade 
window(s) coupled to a 2-finger gesture I'm used to making for other things. On 
Linux I was able to avoid that by using xev to determine what events were being 
generated. I don't remember exactly how I used that info to solve the issue; 
either via xmodmap or via KDE's global shortcut mechanism. In your case 
synclient may also offer a solution, or whatever equivalent exists for the 
touchscreen driver.

R.