Re: How should we present KDE Plasma desktop sessions to users?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

I second that. I want a system that actually works.

Em sex., 23 de out. de 2020 às 14:50,  escreveu:

> On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 17:53:48 +0200
> Adrien Glauser  wrote:
>
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA512
> >
> > Hi again,
> >
> > If no one on this list is available for discussing the topic quoted
> > below, would you guys be so kind as to point me to the right people?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Adrien
> >
> > Le jeudi 22 octobre 2020 à 22:53 +0200, Adrien Glauser a écrit :
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am part of a group of volunteers helping our distribution update
> > > the user documentation, with the goal  of improving the learning
> > > experience for new users.
> > >
> > > Now we all know Plasma has made tremendous progress with the wayland
> > > and xwayland sessions . Unfortunately, as far as our support channels
> > > are concerned, these improvements might not be readily enjoyable for
> > > Nvidia users -- which is not surprising after all, as the meme says.
> > > (Here I am talking about people who installed the proprietary driver,
> > > typically for a laptop with both an Intel integrated and Nvidia
> > > dedicated GPU. In this email I am talking about this category of
> > > users, and about no other category).
> > >
> > > Thus we want to make recommendations to our new users, whether fresh
> > > switchers from the non-Linux world, or Linux users coming from the
> > > GNOME world, where full wayland sessions are working OK for most
> > > including the category I am talking about.
> > >
> > > To make this assumption very clear: We feel like purely descriptive
> > > information is not enough, because users are owed clear disclaimers
> > > and warning signs when there is a live possibility that their sub
> > > menus will be glitching and logoff process freezing. For us it's not
> > > just about QA, it's also about basic respect for people who accepted
> > > to get out their comfort zone to step into the Linux world.
> > >
> > > Bearing in mind this context, I am asking you the following: What is
> > > the most honest and accurate thing to say to these users? Should we
> > > either:
> > >
> > > a) Recommend the xorg session (because it's the most stable), and
> > > make
> > > no other recommendation? (saying for example that the QA testing
> > > around
> > > the other two is lacking, or something along these lines?)
> > >
> > > b) Recommend the xorg session, and recommend against the xwayland and
> > > wayland? (saying what I believe to be true, that is, that the other
> > > two
> > > sessions make it impossible for them to experience Plasma as it is
> > > meant to be)
> > >
> > > c)  Recommend all sessions in the sense that, contrary to my belief
> > > and
> > > knowledge, there actually is first-hand QA data supporting the idea
> > > that all three sessions are OK for these users?
> > >
> > > I am putting this out with an open mind, so please correct me if I am
> > > not portraying Plasma UX accurately. I am just trying to work with
> > > the
> > > evidence I have, and to use it as best as I can for our users.
> > >
> > > Also if you wonder why I am not writing to the Promo team at KDE
> > > don't
> > > wonder anymore: I have, and they acknowledge that this issue is a
> > > little bit off their department.
> > >
> > > Cheers and thanks for reading,
> > >
> > > Adrien
>
> If you're aiming at new users I guess they would
> have an even stricter expectation than I do and
> I'm neither guru nor novice. From my perspective
> anything that isn't bulletproof belongs in development,
> period. I came to Linux because I want to be able
> to do some cLi and customization and for the implied
> security of open-sorce far from Redmond, I definitely
> didn't do so to become a developper.
>
>
>
>

Re: [kde] screen energy saving stopped

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

I'm facing the same problem in Kubuntu 14.04 with KDE 4.14.13, the screen
saver and energy saving both stopped working a few weeks ago. I can still
turn off the monitors manually, using xset dpms force off. I can also start
the screen saver manually, but neither one work automatically anymore.
Tried:

xset s on
xset +dpms
xset dpms 0 0 3600

No luck. Eventually the screen saver and energy saving start working
automatically again out of nothing, but soon they stop working again. If
you find a solution, please post here.


[]'s
Marcelo

2016-07-18 14:03 GMT-03:00 Jerome Yuzyk :

> [KDE 4.14.7 on Fedora 20]
>
> On my desktop machine I have "Screen Energy Saving" set to turn my monitor
> off after 90 minutes of inactivity.
>
> It stopped working the other day and now the monitor doesn't turn off.
>
> What can I do to re-enable it?
>
>
>
> ___
> This message is from the kde mailing list.
> Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
> Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
> More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] Can't configure stylus buttons

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Thank you, I'll try that as soon as I have some spare time and will post
the results here later.

[]'s
Marcelo

2016-05-19 5:08 GMT-03:00 Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>:

> Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Mon, 16 May 2016 17:22:17 -0300 as
> excerpted:
>
> > I'm running Kubuntu 14.04 (KDE backports PPA enabled) and KDE 4.14.13 on
> > two computers, a desktop and a notebook.
> >
> > When I connect a wacom Intuos Pro tablet to the desktop, I can't
> > configure the stylus buttons. They both always perform left-clicks, no
> > matter what function I assign to them using the Input Devices applet in
> > System Settings. Everything else works fine, including pressure
> > sensitivity and express buttons setup. If I stop the wacom tablet
> > daemon, I can use the tablet as if it was a mouse and the stylus buttons
> > act as middle-click and right-click, but then I lose pressure
> > sensitivity and express buttons customization, among other things.
> >
> > However, when I plug the same tablet to the notebook, everything works
> > fine, including the stylus buttons. I can't find a difference in
> > software versions or configurations between the desktop and the
> > notebook.
> >
> > Any idea on what is going on here, or on how to debug this?
>
>
> The way I go about finding the problem in similar cases here may be
> somewhat laborious, but it does tend to work.  It's a process called
> bisection, and has been popularized of late by the git bisect command,
> which semi-automates the same process to help developers and advanced
> users willing to build their own copies of the software from git sources
> track down bugs to an individual commit when you know an earlier version
> worked and a new version doesn't, and want to find precisely which commit
> between the two triggered the problem.
>
> In the context of your posted problem, what you do first on the non-
> working machine is configure a new user, and see if the problem appears
> for a new user, without any customized user config at all.
>
> Alternatively, while logged in as a different user or as root, move your
> normal user's home dir elsewhere for backup, and recreate it, empty.
>
> Assuming the problem is gone with a new user or empty home dir, you know
> the problem must be in the configuration stored in some file in the home
> dir.  The question is then to figure out which one.  That's where the
> bisect process starts.
>
> Taking into account dotfiles and dirs (those starting with a dot, like
> ~/.config/ and ~/.bashrc, normally not displayed in file managers and the
> like, but likely where the config file of interest is, since most config
> files are in fact either dotfiles themselves or located in dotdirs), move
> half of your user's directories and files elsewhere, leaving the other
> half.
>
> Now login as that user and see if the problem persists.  If it does, the
> problem must be in the half that's there.  If it doesn't, it must be in
> the half you moved.
>
> Now use the same method to recursively split the bad half in half again
> and again, testing at each split, until you find the bad directory, and
> eventually the bad file within the directory.  Of course as the bad half
> gets smaller and after you've eliminated any personal files you need to
> keep and it's only config files left, at some point you may decide you've
> done enough testing and can simply redo whatever customized config you'd
> lose by deleting the remaining files.  Or you can continue on until you
> have a specific file.
>
> When you have the bad file its name will give you a clue as to where the
> problem is at the application level at least, and assuming it's a text
> file, you can open it and see how big it is.  If it's only a few lines
> the problem may be obvious at that point.  If it's large, you can either
> continue with the bisect using a text editor now instead of a file
> manager or mv commands, or decide you can lose and redo whatever config
> it contained, and simply delete the file.
>
>
> Of course if the new-user or empty home dir test still reproduces the
> problem, then you know it's a difference in either what's actually
> installed on the system, or in the system configs themselves.  That's
> useful information as well, altho you can't really use bisect to solve
> the problem then, since critical system functionality is involved.  But
> at that point, since you know it's a system level issue, you can post to
> your distro's lists or forums with the information you know upto that
> point, including the fact that it can't be in your user config as you
> tried an empty config and the problem was still there, which will give
> people a head start on he

[kde] Can't configure stylus buttons

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Hello,

I'm running Kubuntu 14.04 (KDE backports PPA enabled) and KDE 4.14.13 on two 
computers, a desktop and a notebook.

When I connect a wacom Intuos Pro tablet to the desktop, I can't configure the 
stylus 
buttons. They both always perform left-clicks, no matter what function I assign 
to them 
using the Input Devices applet in System Settings. Everything else works fine, 
including 
pressure sensitivity and express buttons setup. If I stop the wacom tablet 
daemon, I can use 
the tablet as if it was a mouse and the stylus buttons act as middle-click and 
right-click, but 
then I lose pressure sensitivity and express buttons customization, among other 
things.

However, when I plug the same tablet to the notebook, everything works fine, 
including the 
stylus buttons. I can't find a difference in software versions or 
configurations between the 
desktop and the notebook.

Any idea on what is going on here, or on how to debug this?

Thanks,

Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] Can't resize, move or remove some widgets

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em sábado, 21 de março de 2015, às 07:45:44, Duncan escreveu:

 Tho with luck it was simply something like a migration issue from an
 earlier version of the file, originally created with an earlier version
 of kde, and starting fresh means you'll be starting with the new format
 this time and thus won't have the migration possibly triggering the same
 issue, again.  I know there have been a few of that sort of migration
 issues in the past.  While a fix for them is certainly nice, at least
 once the problem is fixed on a particular user's config, it shouldn't
 happen again. =:^/

Unfortunately not... They were all working in this same KDE version, same 
install, until I got a new HiDPI monitor. KDE does not know yet how to deal 
with HiDPI monitors very well, so my old setup became a little messy. Then I 
did a lot of resizing and repositioning of the plasmoids trying to get a more 
pleasant desktop despite the poor HiDPI handling by KDE (they were all 
behaving normally then). After some logouts and logins, two plasmoids became 
permanently locked as I described.
When I have the time, I'll try first creating a new activity as you suggested 
and, if this is not enough, I will reset my plasma configuration... However, 
it is indeed heavily customized and it will take some time to get it back the 
way it is now. So I'm procrastinating it a little, I don't have the time to do 
this right now.

Thanks,

Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] Can't resize, move or remove some widgets

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Duncan,

Em sexta-feira, 20 de março de 2015, às 03:51:01, Duncan escreveu:
 First, please be aware that not everyone enjoys noise like the following,
 due to your posting in both HTML and plain text.  HTML enabled clients
 are a security vulnerability that not everyone chooses to risk, and
 often, the regulars most likely to have good answers are also the ones
 you're offending by posting such noise.  If it's worth reading, it's
 worth reading in plain text only, so please, don't post the HTML.  (Left-
 angle  changed to right-angle  to ensure that it shows up on HTML
 enabled clients).
 (...)

Thank you for your suggestions, I'll try them. Unfortunately, the easy one did 
not work. As you had guessed, the Remove command in the context menu is only 
available for those plasmoids that are behaving normally. The problematic ones 
do not present this command.
Sorry for the multipart message, I didn't realize I was not sending plain text 
only messages. Hope it is ok now.

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

[kde] Can't resize, move or remove some widgets

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Hello, people,
 
I have several widgets on my desktop: nextwallpaper, yawp, stockquote (three 
instances of this one) and a network monitor. Suddenly, two of them, yawp and 
one of the stockquote instances, stopped showing that lateral setup tab which 
allows you to move, resize or remove the widget from the desktop. Widgets are 
unlocked and, except for these two, all of them show the tab when I hover the 
mouse over them, including the other two instances of stockquote.
I would like to remove and re-add the problematic widgets to see if they go 
back to normal behavior, but can't find a way to remove them. Other than not 
displaying the setup tab, both widgets are working fine.
Any idea on how to solve this?
I'm running KDE 4.14.1 on Kubuntu 14.10.
 
Thank you,
 
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] Meaning of 2nd number in: folder name (4 + 346)?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em segunda-feira, 06 de outubro de 2014, às 14:31:23, Randy Kramer escreveu:
 I've done a little bit of googling, but haven't searched the archives of
 this list.  Will somebody tell me what the second number is in
 parentheses behind the name of a folder in the Folder List?
 
 For example, I see a folder named gui that looks like:
 
 gui (4 + 346)
 
 I know the first number is the number of unread emails, but I have no
 clue as to the second number.  Sometimes (as in this case), that
 number is higher than the number of emaiils in the folder.
 
 I am using (I recently upgraded to) wheezy (debian 4.6.0), with kde
 4.8.4 and kmail 1.13.7.
 
 Thanks!
 Randy Kramer

It is the number of unread mails in its subfolders. This will only be shown if 
a folder is colapsed and has subfolders with unread mail in them. If you 
expand it, each subfolder will display its own number of unread mails, the sum 
of which will be the second number that was previously displayed for their 
parent folder.

[]'s
Marcelo

___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] K menu submenu on a panel

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em terça-feira, 18 de junho de 2013, às 10:29:30, Stephen Dowdy escreveu:
 but another thing... as a folder view, i don't see any way to change
 the icon (it's a generic sheet of paper with ?. might be a way
 programmatically/manual editing, but context Folder View Settings
 doesn't show me any way to change it.  That limits its usefulness.
 
 I would Definitely really love to have some type of dock or
 telescoping list of icons or Icon Group (a containment widget
 that held icons that would unroll on mouse-over) type plasmoid
 widget that i could use like a favorites or just to organize my
 own set of applications.  Trying to fabricate some type of kde-menu
 hierarchy and making a folder-view to it might have been doable if
 the panel icon for that could be changed.
 
 i was hoping the Shelf plasmoid would be this, but it doesn't seem
 very workable, either.

Try the cairo-dock package. It is not a KDE application, but it works fine 
with KDE and is highly customizable. It can show a tray with icons and/or 
groups of icons and there are many presentation options available, including 
the telescopic list of icons you mentioned. You can set it to hide 
automatically or not, among many, many, many other options.

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] Kwin shortcuts not working

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em domingo, 10 de março de 2013, às 11:55:46, Dotan Cohen escreveu:
 Alt-F4 (close window) and Alt-F2 are no longer working on a Kubuntu
 12.10 install. No KDE configuration settings had been changed around
 the time that the shortcuts broke, and I can see that Alt-F4 is still
 configured as the close window shortcut in System Settings.
 Furthermore, some custom shortcuts such as show analogue clock widget
 (calandar) on Alt-Space still do work.
 
 What might be the issue, or how should I start troubleshooting?

Sorry I can't help you troubleshoot your problem, I have no idea what might be 
the issue. However, I'm also running Kubuntu 12.10 and all my shortcuts are 
working as they should, including ALT-F4 and ALT-F2, so it is not a general 
problem with Kubuntu 12.10.

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em sexta-feira, 26 de outubro de 2012, às 09:31:23, Duncan escreveu:
 Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:42:13 -0300 as
 
 excerpted:
  Em quinta-feira, 25 de outubro de 2012, às 05:29:18, Duncan escreveu:
  Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:03:34 -0300:
   How do I make KDE use the bluetooth headset?
  
  There's a lot of levels at which this question could be asked...

(...)

Thanks very much for your help, I'll dig in the things you suggested. If I 
find a solution, I'll post it here.

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em quinta-feira, 25 de outubro de 2012, às 05:29:18, Duncan escreveu:
 Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:03:34 -0300 as
 
 excerpted:
  I have a bluetooth headset which I can use perfectly well with my
  Android devices, but can't make it work with KDE.
  The KDE bluetooth application sees the headset, pears and connects to
  it,
  but the sound is still sent to the speakers even when the headset is
  connected. No sound is heard through the headset, only through the
  speakers.
  KMix and SystemSettings does not seem to have any option to direct the
  sound to the headset.
  When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system
  (and the speakers are automatically turned off).
  How do I make KDE use the bluetooth headset?
 
 There's a lot of levels at which this question could be asked... and
 answered.  Unfortunately, you don't provide a lot of hints as to what
 level your actual intent was, except the conflicting hints of (1) asking
 about kde on a kde list, which suggests you know the actual hardware
 (computer side, it's obvious the bluetooth headset is working) and system
 drivers level is working and it's just kde-based-apps that aren't
 working, vs (2) you compare to a fully integrated hardware/software
 system normally sold as such, android-based devices (the phone/tablet/
 whatever normally comes with android), indicating you're treating it as a
 single unitary whole, to kde, just a GUI desktop layer on top of...

I just mentioned the android devices to make it clear that the headset is 
working fine and that I have a software problem that I think is in KDE, hence 
I ask in the KDE list.

 normally Linux, but it could be MS Windows or one of the BSDs, and if
 it's Linux it could be any one of a huge variety of distros, current or
 old version, on current or old hardware, and further, you mention nothing
 at all about the distro/platform you're on or whether it works in non-kde
 apps on the kde desktop, or whether it works on other desktops (gnome,
 unity, xfce, MS Windows), again suggesting you're considering it a single
 monolithic whole, which it definitely is *NOT*.

I don't have any of those other desktops / operating system installed, just 
Linux + KDE. And the headset does not work for any application I run on this 
desktop. 

 (...)

 Simple first:  If non-kde apps and non-kde desktops are already working,
 and all you need is to get kde working...
 
 Then you need to look in kde's system settings (which are more kde
 settings than system settings, the kde3 name kcontrol thus being a more
 accurate name, but they decided to unhelpfully confuse things in kde4 and
 call it something it's pretty much not, system settings), under hardware,
 multimedia, phonon, and adjust the priority of the bluetooth sound device
 accordingly for the desired category (or for everything).

The bluetooth headset does not appear there. Only the internal soundcard is 
listed. Anyway, I would expect KDE would have a more automated solution for 
directing sound to a connected headset than having to manually change the 
order in which phonon should use the available devices for each possible 
application category every time I connect and disconnect the headset...

 If you don't see any bluetooth sound devices in that list, then it's
 probably not a kde problem, but a system/platform problem.  That's really
 out of scope for this list, but I'm guessing it's what you're seeing.

I don't think so, since the headset appears in KDE's bluetooth application and 
in SystemSettings - Network and connectivity - Bluetooth. Besides, I can 
pair and connect the headset successfully there.

 Assuming you're running kde on some sort of Linux distro (or FreeBSD or
 whatever), you're probably best off finding the lists/forums/irc-channels
 for that distro/bsd and asking there.

I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 x86_64.

 (...)
 
 Add any information you have about other bluetooth devices (say
 keyboards, or for that matter your android devices, paired over bluetooth)
 you have and whether they work fine over bluetooth with the computer, or
 not.

I have a bluetooth keyboard + mouse kit (just one dongle for the two devices). 
They work perfectly. But this is another thing, because they do not use the 
bluetooth adapter embedded in the desktop, but their own provided bluetooth 
dongle, which doesn't require any configuration and works even before the OS 
is loaded. I don't think KDE or even the kernel know that these are bluetooth 
devices. I think the keyboard and mouse are presented to the system as regular 
USB devices.
However, I can send files from the KDE desktop to my android devices using the 
embedded bluetooth adapter.

 Also mention whether /any/ apps, not just kde apps, play sound to the
 bluetooth headset or not.  The common Firefox browser is gtk-based
 (Chrome/Chromium aren't kde based either, neither is Opera, all of which
 are browsers), for instance, so if it works with the bluetooth

Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em quinta-feira, 25 de outubro de 2012, às 07:56:16, Renaud  Olgiati escreveu:
 On Wednesday 24 Oct 2012 21:03 my mailbox was graced by a message from
 Marcelo
 Magno T. Sales who wrote:
  When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system
  (and  the speakers are automatically turned off).
 
 Completely different: when you plug in a wired headset, the changeover from
 loudspeakers to headset is a hardware thing, not KDE; plugging in the
 headset jack actually moves a mechanical switch to turn off the speakers.
 

I know, I just expected KDE would do the same thing for the bluetooth headset 
when it is connected. That's what any user would expect, I think. 
Obviously, it can't be done by hardware in this case, since bluetooth pairing 
and connecting are software processes.

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em quinta-feira, 25 de outubro de 2012, às 18:51:18, Dmitry Ashkadov escreveu:
 25.10.2012 04:03, Marcelo Magno T. Sales пишет:
  Hello,
  
  I have a bluetooth headset which I can use perfectly well with my Android
  devices, but can't make it work with KDE.
  The KDE bluetooth application sees the headset, pears and connects to it,
  but the sound is still sent to the speakers even when the headset is
  connected. No sound is heard through the headset, only through the
  speakers.
  KMix and SystemSettings does not seem to have any option to direct the
  sound to the headset.
  When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system
  (and
  the speakers are automatically turned off).
  How do I make KDE use the bluetooth headset?
  
  Thanks,
 
 If you system have pulseaudio installed and it support of bluez, you can
 use kmix hidden functionality: you can click on kmix icon, open mixer (i
 don't know how it is in English), open playback tab (not a playback
 devices) and .. right click on stream you want to play using
 bluetooth... You also can set in KDE sound settings (phonon settings)
 priority of devices. If you set bluetooth headset first then the sound
 will go to bluetooth automatically when it is connected.
 
 For example, some images:
 
 1. kmix can show available devices (and bluetooth too):
 http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_devices.png
 2. you can switch devices for each streams:
 http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_streams.png
 3. you can change devices priorities in phonon settings:
 http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_priorities.png
 4. you can set bluetooth profile:
 http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/bluetooth_set.png

Thank you very much, your screenshots are very clarifying.
So it seems my problem is that the headset is not available as an audio device 
for phonon, despite it can be paired and connected using the KDE's bluetooth 
app.
Any idea on how can I debug this?

Thanks,

Marcelo

___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

[kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Hello,

I have a bluetooth headset which I can use perfectly well with my Android 
devices, but can't make it work with KDE.
The KDE bluetooth application sees the headset, pears and connects to it, but 
the sound is still sent to the speakers even when the headset is connected. No 
sound is heard through the headset, only through the speakers.
KMix and SystemSettings does not seem to have any option to direct the sound 
to the headset.
When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system (and 
the speakers are automatically turned off).
How do I make KDE use the bluetooth headset?

Thanks,

Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] QtCurve customizations do not apply to GTK applications after update to 4.9.1

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em domingo, 16 de setembro de 2012, às 05:48:57, Duncan escreveu:
 Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:05:13 -0300 as
 
 excerpted:
  I've just updated KDE to 4.9.1 and now GTK applications do not look like
  KDE applications anymore.
  I use QtCurve with a number of customizations and have configured it to
  be used for GTK applications in System Settings - Appearance - GTK
  Appearance. Before the update, the GTK applications displayed menus,
  widgets, buttons, etc. just like the ones in KDE applications, with all
  the customizations I had applied to QtCurve.
  However, after the update, GTK applications look like they are using
  Oxygen. I think that is the default appearance of QtCurve and that my
  customizations are being ignored for GTK applications.
  Any hint on how to make GTK applications look like KDE applications
  again (other than removing my QtCurve customizations to make KDE
  applications use the oxygen-like style, of course :) )
 
 I don't use qtcurve, but I've had the same thing happen occasionally to
 my kde color options, where I've checked the checkbox that applies the
 same colors to non-kde apps (tho AFAIK all it applies them to is gtk-
 based apps, and to non-kde qt apps of course, I know it doesn't seem to
 apply them to generic X apps or to tk based apps).

Unfortunately, this did not solve the problem in this case. Indeed, it's a 
little more subtle: QtCurve's default appearance is an oxygen-like style. 
However, it can be customized in almost any way you can imagine. I prefer to 
use a style more acqua-like. GTK applications *are* using QtCurve, but with 
its default oxygen-like style instead of my customized acqua-like style. 
Therefore, GTK applications look completely alien in my desktop KDE. This also 
happens if I set up QtCurve to use any of its provided preset settings. Right 
now, the only way I'm able to make GTK and KDE applications look the same with 
QtCurve is using its default oxygen-like appearance.
I've filled a bug about this in Ubuntu's launchpad.

Thanks for your help,

Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

[kde] QtCurve customizations do not apply to GTK applications after update to 4.9.1

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Hello,

I've just updated KDE to 4.9.1 and now GTK applications do not look like KDE 
applications anymore.
I use QtCurve with a number of customizations and have configured it to be 
used for GTK applications in System Settings - Appearance - GTK Appearance. 
Before the update, the GTK applications displayed menus, widgets, buttons, 
etc. just like the ones in KDE applications, with all the customizations I had 
applied to QtCurve.
However, after the update, GTK applications look like they are using Oxygen. I 
think that is the default appearance of QtCurve and that my customizations are 
being ignored for GTK applications.
Any hint on how to make GTK applications look like KDE applications again 
(other than removing my QtCurve customizations to make KDE applications use 
the oxygen-like style, of course :) )

Thanks,

Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] How to setup dual monitor in kde?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em sábado, 26 de maio de 2012, às 19:01:40, dE . escreveu:
 On 05/25/12 01:05, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
  2012/5/24 Stef Bons...@bononline.nl:
  On 05/24/2012 07:22 PM, Nowardev-Team wrote:
  NB THE bash script must be executable  to do that just do
  
  chmod +x your_name_bashscript_for_xrandr
  
  *to see your aviable options you can just type on konsole
  
  
  xrandr
  *
  
  No,
  
  it's just possible using the display settings in the settings. Select
  Display and Monitor, select
  Multiple Monitors, and there you are.
  
  It works very good.
  
  Stef
  
  It works, but after a reboot KDE forgets what had been configured and
  goes back to clone mode again.
  Even if you Save as default in System Settings, the configuration is
  lost after a reboot.
  Is there a way to make it stick?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Marcelo
  ___
  This message is from the kde mailing list.
  Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
  Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
  More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
 
 This's not reproducible in my case, which version of KDE are you running?
 ___

Hello,

I'm running 4.8.2, Ubuntu packages. However, since yesterday, the 
configuration saved as default in System Settings began to stick. Now I can 
logout and login again and the monitors configuration stays as I had left it.
I didn't do anything different, there were no updates... Don't know why it 
works now (not complaining, not complaining at all! :) )
However, right after this began to work, this other problem showed up:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300642

It seems I can never have KDE working 100%. Every time I fix a problem, 
another one shows up. Even so, KDE is still better than the available 
alternatives. At least KDE ends up doing what I want after some hard work. But 
Gnome and Unity don't, no matter how hard I try :)

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

[kde] How to setup a wacom tablet and/or a touchscreen in a two monitors configuration?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Hello,

I don't know if this problem can be solved within KDE or if it must be solved 
somewhere in xorg configuration. If anyone can give me directions on what 
exactly should I look for, I will be grateful.
I use two monitors with 1920x1080 resolution, one above the other, and the 
desktop is extended across them. My desktop, therefore, has a 1920x2160 
resolution.
The lower monitor has a touchscreen and the upper monitor has not. However, 
right now I'm not able to use the touchscreen properly because X interprets 
the touches as if the touchscreen area was over both monitors. For example, if 
I touch the middle of the lower monitor (which should be around coordinate 
[960,1620]), X thinks I've clicked the middle of the entire desktop (around 
coordinate [960,1080], i.e., the mouse cursor goes to the top of the lower 
monitor / bottom of the upper monitor). If I touch the top of the lower 
monitor, the top of the desktop is clicked insted (i.e., the top of the upper 
monitor).
How can I configure KDE or X so they know that the touchscreen covers only the 
lower monitor? 

Similar problem occurs with a wacom digitizing tablet. I would like the tablet 
area would correspond to just one of the monitors, not the entire desktop. How 
can I setup this?

Thanks,

Marcelo___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] How to setup dual monitor in kde?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

2012/5/24 Stef Bon s...@bononline.nl:
 On 05/24/2012 07:22 PM, Nowardev-Team wrote:
 NB THE bash script must be executable  to do that just do

 chmod +x your_name_bashscript_for_xrandr

 *to see your aviable options you can just type on konsole


 xrandr
 *

 No,

 it's just possible using the display settings in the settings. Select
 Display and Monitor, select
 Multiple Monitors, and there you are.

 It works very good.

 Stef

It works, but after a reboot KDE forgets what had been configured and
goes back to clone mode again.
Even if you Save as default in System Settings, the configuration is
lost after a reboot.
Is there a way to make it stick?

Thanks,

Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

Re: [kde] How to setup dual monitor in kde?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

2012/5/24 Nowardev-Team nowar...@gmail.com:
 i guess you should use xrandr

 if you can enable your monitor with xrandr you can create a   a bash script
 like this

 #!/bin/bash
 xrandr ...your option
 xrandr ...another option

 after you did  save this on ~/.kde/Autostart/

 so everytime you load kde it will load your script  you can do this stuff
 from systemsettings here

 http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-gp1841


Thanks, but I'm looking for a way to accomplish this using the GUI,
for a user who lacks the skills to set it up using scripts, CLI or
editing configuration files.

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

[kde] Re: No sound in Kubuntu 11.04

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Hi, Duncan

Em domingo 22 maio 2011, Duncan escreveu:
 Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Sun, 22 May 2011 13:42:25 -0300 as
 
 excerpted:
  Every time I boot my VAIO VPCF111FB, the sound starts working ok in
  KDE. After some time it is running (sometimes hours, sometimes
  days), audio stops working in KDE. KDE notifications don't produce
  any sound and KDE applications do not either.
  
  Also, when I go to SystemSettings - Multimedia after the sound
  stops working, I get a messaging informing that KDE has detected
  that one or more internal sound devices were removed (?!)
 
 Disappearing sound devices is a somewhat common problem with the
 phonon- xine backend. I had it here, and I've seen others posting
 similar issues.
 
 Check the phonon settings in kcontrol (systemsettings, it's not
 systemsettings for the most part but user-specific kde settings, so I
 continue to use the more accurate kde3 term), and if it's set to the
 phonon-xine backend, try a different one, perhaps phonon-vlc (which
 you might have to install, first).
 
 Switching to the phonon-vlc backend here completely solved my
 problem, and at least one other person reported that it did for them
 too, after I recommended that they try it.  (OTOH, it didn't seem to
 help for someone else.  Maybe they had other problems too.)
 
 FWIW, for some months (I'm not doing so currently as it took too much
 time) I was following the kde-planet sindicated feed, and during that
 time, probably about a year ago, one of the phonon authors posted an
 article to his blog saying that while phonon-xine was the earliest
 stable backend and thus has been the default on many distributions,
 xine turned out not to be as flexible as they needed, so that
 backend was deprecated and not getting a lot of new work done to it.
  He recommended the vlc backend as the one then taking the lead.
 
 FWIW, there's also phonon-gstreamer, which might be most compatible
 with a gnome-based distro, and may be some others as well.  But the
 xine backend seems to be the most common, despite its issues,
 probably because it was the first usably stable backend, and the vlc
 backend is the one that blog recommended people switch to in the
 future, and the one that cured the disappearing device issues the
 xine backend was giving me.

Thanks for your reply. I have the phonon-gstreamer backend installed, 
but will try phonon-vlc as you have suggested. After a few days I'll 
post the results (got to give some time to be sure sound will not fail 
again, sometimes it lasts for a few days before failing).

Thanks,

Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

[kde] No sound in Kubuntu 11.04

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Hello,

Every time I boot my VAIO VPCF111FB, the sound starts working ok in KDE. 
After some time it is running (sometimes hours, sometimes days), audio 
stops working in KDE. KDE notifications don't produce any sound and KDE 
applications do not either. However, non-KDE applications like mplayer 
continue producing sounds normally. The problem is solved temporarily 
with a reboot.
Also, when I go to SystemSettings - Multimedia after the sound stops 
working, I get a messaging informing that KDE has detected that one or 
more internal sound devices were removed (?!) and asking if KDE can 
permanently forget about them. The supposedly removed devices are:
Capture: HDA Intel (ALC275 Analog)
Output: HDA Intel (ALC275 Analog)
Output: HDA Intel (ALC275 Analog) #1

After a reboot, the devices magically hurry back inside the notebook and 
start working again. 

Before Natty I was running Lucid in this very computer with no sound 
issues at all.
This happens after a clean Kubuntu 11.04 amd64 install and also happens 
if I first install Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 and add kubuntu-desktop later.
Since Jaunty, I have always installed first Ubuntu and later added 
kubuntu-desktop, because I used to have similar sound problems when 
installing Kubuntu directly (with other computers, before I've bought 
this one) that seam to be solved this way. But now with Natty, the 
problems persist even if I install Ubuntu first.
Any idea of what may be causing this? I hate having to reboot the 
computer every now and then.

Thanks,

Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

[kde] Re: Copy in KMail picks up HTML formatting

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em quarta-feira 02 março 2011, John Layt escreveu:
 On Wednesday 02 March 2011 02:51:08 John Phillips wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Running KMail 1.13.5 on Ubuntu 10.04.
  
  Ctrl C (copy) of part of an email picks up also the HTML
  formatting;  even when I copy an address and paste it into a
  filter.
  
  Never seen this happen elsewhere;  how do I just copy the plain
  text?
  
  ___
  This message is from the kde mailing list.
  Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
  Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
  More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
 
 This was fixed in the 4.4.10 release.

I don't think so. I'm running 4.5.3 and this bug is still here. I know 
this is the fixed release informed in the bug, but it's not fixed yet. 
Maybe it's because KDE PIM is not in sync with the rest of KDE?

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

[kde] Re: Copy in KMail picks up HTML formatting

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em quarta-feira 02 março 2011, Hans Muecke escreveu:
 Am Dienstag, 1. März 2011, um 20:51:08 schrieb John Phillips:
  Hi,
  
  Running KMail 1.13.5 on Ubuntu 10.04.
  
  Ctrl C (copy) of part of an email picks up also the HTML
  formatting;  even when I copy an address and paste it into a
  filter.
  
  Never seen this happen elsewhere;  how do I just copy the plain
  text?
 
 On my end (Ubuntu 10.04LTS, KDE 4.4.5) I noticed this too. As a
 workaround I unchecked prefer html over plain text under folder
 for those folders I usually coppy text from.

I have noticed that this bug only affects text copied from the message 
viewer window / panel. So, other workarounds include typing V to show 
the source and copying from there, or clicking reply and copying from 
the composer window.

[]'s
Marcelo
___
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.