Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
-Original Message- From: kde [mailto:kde-boun...@mail.kde.org] On Behalf Of Duncan Sent: 13 May 2015 05:46 To: k...@postbox.kde.org Subject: Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar Felix Miata posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 12:13:40 -0400 as excerpted: Gunther Clasen composed on 2015-05-12 15:46 (UTC+0100): I'm using kde 4.3.4 btw. I see according to distrowatch.com CentOS 6.6 was released with 4.3.4 only last October. That's puzzling. 4.3.4 is now more than five years old, rather new at its release, when KDE4 was quite buggy and lacking many KDE3 features. Likely grouping was broken or missing in 4.3.4. Try some distro with any more recent KDE4 version, or upgrading your KDE4 to something non-ancient. Indeed. I've argued all along that 4.2 was still alpha quality, 4.3 beta, (late) 4.4 rc, and (late) 4.5 /finally/ made it to reasonable release quality. (Late 4.6 was reasonably stable except for kdepim, but they continued supporting kdepim 4.4 thru 4.7 and into 4.8, and 4.6 did change a lot, switching off of hal, etc, so 4.5 would have been the version for LTR-stable releases to go with, with 4.4 kdepim.) Which would have been fine if 3.10 had remained supported thru 4.5, so people could switch from release quality to release quality. Unfortunately that didn't happen, as many kde devs were dropping further development of 3.x, even for obvious bug fixes with patches submitted, by 4.2, and by 4.3, upstream support for kde3 had effectively disappeared, despite 4.3 being beta quality at best. So it's extremely puzzling that an LTR-stable release such as RHE/CentOS would pick the still very beta kde 4.3, even five year later. 4.5 with 4.4 kdepim would have been a better choice. But I guess they default to gnome anyway, and don't really care so much about kde. Oh, well... So indeed, for anything but trivial kde users who normally default to some other desktop, I'd strongly recommend finding something with kde 4.5 at least. Anything else and you really are using beta quality software at best. It's simply not mature or polished, and that lack definitely shows. But... a kde user running CentOS 6.6 with a still effectively beta kde 4.3, five years after 4.3's release and with 4.5 from a year later considered far better... probably doesn't have much choice in the matter. They run what they're given by the corporate/government/ university/whatever overlords. So unfortunately there's likely not much chance to do anything about it... except for change jobs/schools/whatever. That was a thumping good kick in the arse for the KDE developers, which I fully support. The first time I used KDE4 (forced to, as kde3 was no longer supported) on a (admittedly crappy) machine at home, I was so much upset about the quality (or lack of) of it that I nearly upgraded to MS windows. Knotify deamon basically killed it. Much as I appreciate the hard work the programmers do, kde4 was a Major Fuck-Up (just my tuppence). Hopefully it goes better in the future. And yes, you are right: It's a corporate production machine. Clocks on linux releases go different. We just upgraded from Centos 4.7. That version suited me just fine, as it had kde3 on it. And no: redhat don't care about kde, that is also true. My linux machine at home running kde4 has hardly been switched on in the last year. KDE4 was a major driver for that. Maybe I should give it another go with a later version. Forgot to ask: Is there a repository containing KDE 4.5 (or later) for CentOS 6.6? If so, please post a link. I couldn't find anything. Cheers Gunther ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
-Original Message- From: kde [mailto:kde-boun...@mail.kde.org] On Behalf Of Duncan Sent: 13 May 2015 05:46 To: k...@postbox.kde.org Subject: Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar Felix Miata posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 12:13:40 -0400 as excerpted: Gunther Clasen composed on 2015-05-12 15:46 (UTC+0100): I'm using kde 4.3.4 btw. I see according to distrowatch.com CentOS 6.6 was released with 4.3.4 only last October. That's puzzling. 4.3.4 is now more than five years old, rather new at its release, when KDE4 was quite buggy and lacking many KDE3 features. Likely grouping was broken or missing in 4.3.4. Try some distro with any more recent KDE4 version, or upgrading your KDE4 to something non-ancient. Indeed. I've argued all along that 4.2 was still alpha quality, 4.3 beta, (late) 4.4 rc, and (late) 4.5 /finally/ made it to reasonable release quality. (Late 4.6 was reasonably stable except for kdepim, but they continued supporting kdepim 4.4 thru 4.7 and into 4.8, and 4.6 did change a lot, switching off of hal, etc, so 4.5 would have been the version for LTR-stable releases to go with, with 4.4 kdepim.) Which would have been fine if 3.10 had remained supported thru 4.5, so people could switch from release quality to release quality. Unfortunately that didn't happen, as many kde devs were dropping further development of 3.x, even for obvious bug fixes with patches submitted, by 4.2, and by 4.3, upstream support for kde3 had effectively disappeared, despite 4.3 being beta quality at best. So it's extremely puzzling that an LTR-stable release such as RHE/CentOS would pick the still very beta kde 4.3, even five year later. 4.5 with 4.4 kdepim would have been a better choice. But I guess they default to gnome anyway, and don't really care so much about kde. Oh, well... So indeed, for anything but trivial kde users who normally default to some other desktop, I'd strongly recommend finding something with kde 4.5 at least. Anything else and you really are using beta quality software at best. It's simply not mature or polished, and that lack definitely shows. But... a kde user running CentOS 6.6 with a still effectively beta kde 4.3, five years after 4.3's release and with 4.5 from a year later considered far better... probably doesn't have much choice in the matter. They run what they're given by the corporate/government/ university/whatever overlords. So unfortunately there's likely not much chance to do anything about it... except for change jobs/schools/whatever. That was a thumping good kick in the arse for the KDE developers, which I fully support. The first time I used KDE4 (forced to, as kde3 was no longer supported) on a (admittedly crappy) machine at home, I was so much upset about the quality (or lack of) of it that I nearly upgraded to MS windows. Knotify deamon basically killed it. Much as I appreciate the hard work the programmers do, kde4 was a Major Fuck-Up (just my tuppence). Hopefully it goes better in the future. And yes, you are right: It's a corporate production machine. Clocks on linux releases go different. We just upgraded from Centos 4.7. That version suited me just fine, as it had kde3 on it. And no: redhat don't care about kde, that is also true. My linux machine at home running kde4 has hardly been switched on in the last year. KDE4 was a major driver for that. Maybe I should give it another go with a later version. Cheers Gunther ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
Here's me on 4.10 and weird things still occur. One that gob smacked was that the trash can doesn't behave as an ordinary icon on the desktop and is perfectly happy to sit on top of another or maybe the others can't detect that it is there. Pass I also wonder why when I hot plug a hard drive of usb why find files aka kfind has no problem finding all of the files that match a search term - dolphin search - no. It's happy to miss some. Plus the desktop needs rebooting via a log out at times but this has not caused me any serious problems so far. Neither have one or two desktop freezes, I have no idea what caused those or the need for restarting kde. From time to time the screen can't keep up with my typing rate. It lags well behind and here's me using an HP Xeon workstation with rather a lot of ram. Rebooting kde usually sorts that out. Mail has never been a problem for me on 4. I still run kdepim3 and as always it sits there doing it's job faultlessly, compacting and etc just as it should. The dreaded file index issues seem to have disappeared but have they? Of late I notice a pregnant pause when I save files. I don't seem to have any taskbar problems other than having again of late to leave them where they happen to pop up when added. I don't seem to be able to drag them where I want any more or couldn't last time I tried. When I look at the final result of kde4 all I really see is a different method of presenting folders - that actually I don't use as I am happy with my cluttered desktop and even use it for temp storage at times. I don't see any real improvement from a usability point of view. Not surprising really as windows is mature technology and re arranging how various things look wont change that at all. Could it be that KDE5 will happen for what was the probably the real real reason for 4 - rather difficult to do any significant work on 3. Grows like topsy etc. :-) I sometimes think that Linux's committee type approach to additions is rather sensible. No point bleating about kde releases being sub beta really because this is part why there are distro's about. We use and report bugs.At some point they get fixed - maybe. What disturbs me was that initial KDE4 was in real terms unusable. OpenSuse put some in for us to look at. On the next release it went full 4 along with the associated problems. I'm glad they still left some 3 that could still be installed. Just goes to show how shallow the changes really are - just candy really. I here rumours about 5 going what is usually called upstream from the desktop, sort of taking over from the lib people. Indexing nearly killed kde other than for die hards and I can't help wondering what further marauding in that general direction will do. I also note that this mailing list is near dead compared with how it used to be on 3. :-) wow that was a long bleat. John - On Wednesday, 13 May 2015, 5:46, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Felix Miata posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 12:13:40 -0400 as excerpted: Gunther Clasen composed on 2015-05-12 15:46 (UTC+0100): I'm using kde 4.3.4 btw. I see according to distrowatch.com CentOS 6.6 was released with 4.3.4 only last October. That's puzzling. 4.3.4 is now more than five years old, rather new at its release, when KDE4 was quite buggy and lacking many KDE3 features. Likely grouping was broken or missing in 4.3.4. Try some distro with any more recent KDE4 version, or upgrading your KDE4 to something non-ancient. Indeed. I've argued all along that 4.2 was still alpha quality, 4.3 beta, (late) 4.4 rc, and (late) 4.5 /finally/ made it to reasonable release quality. (Late 4.6 was reasonably stable except for kdepim, but they continued supporting kdepim 4.4 thru 4.7 and into 4.8, and 4.6 did change a lot, switching off of hal, etc, so 4.5 would have been the version for LTR-stable releases to go with, with 4.4 kdepim.) Which would have been fine if 3.10 had remained supported thru 4.5, so people could switch from release quality to release quality. Unfortunately that didn't happen, as many kde devs were dropping further development of 3.x, even for obvious bug fixes with patches submitted, by 4.2, and by 4.3, upstream support for kde3 had effectively disappeared, despite 4.3 being beta quality at best. So it's extremely puzzling that an LTR-stable release such as RHE/CentOS would pick the still very beta kde 4.3, even five year later. 4.5 with 4.4 kdepim would have been a better choice. But I guess they default to gnome anyway, and don't really care so much about kde. Oh, well... So indeed, for anything but trivial kde users who normally default to some other desktop, I'd strongly recommend finding something with kde 4.5 at least. Anything else and you really are using beta quality software at best. It's simply not mature or polished, and that lack definitely shows. But... a kde user
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
Gunther Clasen posted on Wed, 13 May 2015 11:41:14 +0100 as excerpted: Forgot to ask: Is there a repository containing KDE 4.5 (or later) for CentOS 6.6? If so, please post a link. I couldn't find anything. I've been out of the rpm world for over a decade now, but back when I was on Mandrake (yes, it was that long ago), I had pretty good luck with rpmfind.net . Search on something like kdelibs or kdebase (if unsplit, konsole or konqueror or the like if split) that's pretty basic to kde, and take your pick. You will likely have to cross distro lines in ordered to get the version you are looking for, and while I was always looking for something near bleeding edge and Mandrake wasn't /that/ far behind, so I could do say rawhide or whatever and potentially upgrade a few other deps as well, it worked quite well. But kde is pretty big, you're waaayyy back from leading edge, and you're likely to need to either upgrade a whole bunch of stuff or potentially do the source-rpm thing, since building from sources does allow more flexibility in library deps. The deps for something that big aren't going to be easy. Upgrading entire distro to el7 or fedora something, if possible, will likely be easier. But an entire distro upgrade may well not be possible in your environment... Someone with more recent experience on an rpm-based distro or better yet long term support or enterprise edition rpm-based, if they reply of course, may be a better guide. (FWIW I've been on Gentoo since Mandrake. Being a customizer and having a reasonably strong machine for the building, that's the perfect distro for me, and if it... and me... continue to be around, I can well imagine myself still using it another 2-4 decades. 3 decades would put me near 80, and I suppose possibly in a nursing home... But I recognize that building from sources, even if automated, isn't for everyone, nor does everyone want/need the customization I do; some people just want something that works and don't want to mess with it that much. For these people, Gentoo isn't going to be the perfect match I have found it to be for me.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
Gunther Clasen composed on 2015-05-12 15:46 (UTC+0100): Yes, right-clicking on some _empty_ space on what seems to be called panel nowadays gives me the Task Manager Settings, which has grouping options. Well, Kevin, if these app entries in the taskbar have grouping options, then I cannot see them. Rather than saying yes, they are there, please post where they are. Otherwise I will have to assume that this option is unavailable on a full task bar (aka broken). I'm using kde 4.3.4 btw. I see according to distrowatch.com CentOS 6.6 was released with 4.3.4 only last October. That's puzzling. 4.3.4 is now more than five years old, rather new at its release, when KDE4 was quite buggy and lacking many KDE3 features. Likely grouping was broken or missing in 4.3.4. Try some distro with any more recent KDE4 version, or upgrading your KDE4 to something non-ancient. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
Amazing! You're right! taskbar is so noising! I'm trying those tips now! Thanks! :-) El Mar 12 May 2015 14:09:41 Duncan escribió: ianseeks posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 14:16:45 +0100 as excerpted: On Tuesday 12 May 2015 11:57:52 Gunther Clasen wrote: Hi, I am pretty new to kde 4 (not kde, which I've been using for 15+ years now), and some things puzzle me. I am used to grouping tasks in the taskbar, and kde4 didn't migrate that setting from kde3. Now with the taskbar full of applications (it needs only 5 applications open to fill the taskbar on a wide-screen monitor), there seems to be NO WAY to configure the taskbar to group the tasks. One needs to close the applications first in order to have free space on the taskbar to do a right-click to bring up the config menu. Is that behaviour actually intended, or have I missed something? Cheers Gunther Have you tried a right click on the taskbar? I get grouping options on the window that pops up. Umm... he /said/ with the taskbar full (5 apps is all it took), there's no way to right-click on the taskbar, without clicking on an app entry instead. (Apparently app-entries don't have the appropriate options, I don't use a taskbar so I wouldn't know.) So he has tried it; there's just nowhere left exposed to click. As I said, no taskbar here. Kde4 has so many other switching methods and effects available (alt-tab/win-tab are set to thumbnail switch and flip- switch here, cube (win-c, and hot-top-right-corner, with win-shift-c and win-ctrl-c variants for cylinder and globe instead), grid (win-g), expose (hot-top-edge same desktop, hot top-left-corner all desktops), and simply sloppy focus-follows-mouse switching with click-to-raise, plus a couple others I don't even have a trigger assigned for), I simply don't need a taskbar, and I find it more a nuisance (either taking valuable desktop space or popping up at inconvenient times if I have it set autohide) than helpful. Meanwhile, ironic that he's upgrading to kde4, just as it is getting deprecated and people are switching to kde5. Tho I guess most haven't switched yet, including me as kwin5 appears to be broken on my radeon turks (hd6670 IIRC) with native kernel/mesa/xorg graphics drivers, but more and more distros are introducing it. -- Me estoy mudando a cnngime...@openmailbox.org. Es recomndable que me responda allí. Utilice firmas digitales y cifrado para sus correos. https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/ ,= ,-_-. =. ((_/)o o(\_)) `-'(. .)`-' \_/ Christian. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
Hi, I am pretty new to kde 4 (not kde, which I've been using for 15+ years now), and some things puzzle me. I am used to grouping tasks in the taskbar, and kde4 didn't migrate that setting from kde3. Now with the taskbar full of applications (it needs only 5 applications open to fill the taskbar on a wide-screen monitor), there seems to be NO WAY to configure the taskbar to group the tasks. One needs to close the applications first in order to have free space on the taskbar to do a right-click to bring up the config menu. Is that behaviour actually intended, or have I missed something? Cheers Gunther ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
Felix Miata posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 12:13:40 -0400 as excerpted: Gunther Clasen composed on 2015-05-12 15:46 (UTC+0100): I'm using kde 4.3.4 btw. I see according to distrowatch.com CentOS 6.6 was released with 4.3.4 only last October. That's puzzling. 4.3.4 is now more than five years old, rather new at its release, when KDE4 was quite buggy and lacking many KDE3 features. Likely grouping was broken or missing in 4.3.4. Try some distro with any more recent KDE4 version, or upgrading your KDE4 to something non-ancient. Indeed. I've argued all along that 4.2 was still alpha quality, 4.3 beta, (late) 4.4 rc, and (late) 4.5 /finally/ made it to reasonable release quality. (Late 4.6 was reasonably stable except for kdepim, but they continued supporting kdepim 4.4 thru 4.7 and into 4.8, and 4.6 did change a lot, switching off of hal, etc, so 4.5 would have been the version for LTR-stable releases to go with, with 4.4 kdepim.) Which would have been fine if 3.10 had remained supported thru 4.5, so people could switch from release quality to release quality. Unfortunately that didn't happen, as many kde devs were dropping further development of 3.x, even for obvious bug fixes with patches submitted, by 4.2, and by 4.3, upstream support for kde3 had effectively disappeared, despite 4.3 being beta quality at best. So it's extremely puzzling that an LTR-stable release such as RHE/CentOS would pick the still very beta kde 4.3, even five year later. 4.5 with 4.4 kdepim would have been a better choice. But I guess they default to gnome anyway, and don't really care so much about kde. Oh, well... So indeed, for anything but trivial kde users who normally default to some other desktop, I'd strongly recommend finding something with kde 4.5 at least. Anything else and you really are using beta quality software at best. It's simply not mature or polished, and that lack definitely shows. But... a kde user running CentOS 6.6 with a still effectively beta kde 4.3, five years after 4.3's release and with 4.5 from a year later considered far better... probably doesn't have much choice in the matter. They run what they're given by the corporate/government/ university/whatever overlords. So unfortunately there's likely not much chance to do anything about it... except for change jobs/schools/whatever. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
On Tuesday, 2015-05-12, 14:09:41, Duncan wrote: ianseeks posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 14:16:45 +0100 as excerpted: On Tuesday 12 May 2015 11:57:52 Gunther Clasen wrote: Hi, I am pretty new to kde 4 (not kde, which I've been using for 15+ years now), and some things puzzle me. I am used to grouping tasks in the taskbar, and kde4 didn't migrate that setting from kde3. Now with the taskbar full of applications (it needs only 5 applications open to fill the taskbar on a wide-screen monitor), there seems to be NO WAY to configure the taskbar to group the tasks. One needs to close the applications first in order to have free space on the taskbar to do a right-click to bring up the config menu. Is that behaviour actually intended, or have I missed something? Cheers Gunther Have you tried a right click on the taskbar? I get grouping options on the window that pops up. Umm... he /said/ with the taskbar full (5 apps is all it took), there's no way to right-click on the taskbar, without clicking on an app entry instead. (Apparently app-entries don't have the appropriate options, I don't use a taskbar so I wouldn't know.) They do. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
ianseeks posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 14:16:45 +0100 as excerpted: On Tuesday 12 May 2015 11:57:52 Gunther Clasen wrote: Hi, I am pretty new to kde 4 (not kde, which I've been using for 15+ years now), and some things puzzle me. I am used to grouping tasks in the taskbar, and kde4 didn't migrate that setting from kde3. Now with the taskbar full of applications (it needs only 5 applications open to fill the taskbar on a wide-screen monitor), there seems to be NO WAY to configure the taskbar to group the tasks. One needs to close the applications first in order to have free space on the taskbar to do a right-click to bring up the config menu. Is that behaviour actually intended, or have I missed something? Cheers Gunther Have you tried a right click on the taskbar? I get grouping options on the window that pops up. Umm... he /said/ with the taskbar full (5 apps is all it took), there's no way to right-click on the taskbar, without clicking on an app entry instead. (Apparently app-entries don't have the appropriate options, I don't use a taskbar so I wouldn't know.) So he has tried it; there's just nowhere left exposed to click. As I said, no taskbar here. Kde4 has so many other switching methods and effects available (alt-tab/win-tab are set to thumbnail switch and flip- switch here, cube (win-c, and hot-top-right-corner, with win-shift-c and win-ctrl-c variants for cylinder and globe instead), grid (win-g), expose (hot-top-edge same desktop, hot top-left-corner all desktops), and simply sloppy focus-follows-mouse switching with click-to-raise, plus a couple others I don't even have a trigger assigned for), I simply don't need a taskbar, and I find it more a nuisance (either taking valuable desktop space or popping up at inconvenient times if I have it set autohide) than helpful. Meanwhile, ironic that he's upgrading to kde4, just as it is getting deprecated and people are switching to kde5. Tho I guess most haven't switched yet, including me as kwin5 appears to be broken on my radeon turks (hd6670 IIRC) with native kernel/mesa/xorg graphics drivers, but more and more distros are introducing it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master. Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
On Tuesday 12 May 2015 11:57:52 Gunther Clasen wrote: Hi, I am pretty new to kde 4 (not kde, which I've been using for 15+ years now), and some things puzzle me. I am used to grouping tasks in the taskbar, and kde4 didn't migrate that setting from kde3. Now with the taskbar full of applications (it needs only 5 applications open to fill the taskbar on a wide-screen monitor), there seems to be NO WAY to configure the taskbar to group the tasks. One needs to close the applications first in order to have free space on the taskbar to do a right-click to bring up the config menu. Is that behaviour actually intended, or have I missed something? Cheers Gunther Have you tried a right click on the taskbar? I get grouping options on the window that pops up. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
-Original Message- From: kde [mailto:kde-boun...@mail.kde.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Krammer Sent: 12 May 2015 15:34 To: kde@mail.kde.org Subject: Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar On Tuesday, 2015-05-12, 14:09:41, Duncan wrote: ianseeks posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 14:16:45 +0100 as excerpted: On Tuesday 12 May 2015 11:57:52 Gunther Clasen wrote: Hi, I am pretty new to kde 4 (not kde, which I've been using for 15+ years now), and some things puzzle me. I am used to grouping tasks in the taskbar, and kde4 didn't migrate that setting from kde3. Now with the taskbar full of applications (it needs only 5 applications open to fill the taskbar on a wide-screen monitor), there seems to be NO WAY to configure the taskbar to group the tasks. One needs to close the applications first in order to have free space on the taskbar to do a right-click to bring up the config menu. Is that behaviour actually intended, or have I missed something? Cheers Gunther Have you tried a right click on the taskbar? I get grouping options on the window that pops up. Umm... he /said/ with the taskbar full (5 apps is all it took), there's no way to right-click on the taskbar, without clicking on an app entry instead. (Apparently app-entries don't have the appropriate options, I don't use a taskbar so I wouldn't know.) They do. Cheers, Kevin Yes, right-clicking on some _empty_ space on what seems to be called panel nowadays gives me the Task Manager Settings, which has grouping options. Well, Kevin, if these app entries in the taskbar have grouping options, then I cannot see them. Rather than saying yes, they are there, please post where they are. Otherwise I will have to assume that this option is unavailable on a full task bar (aka broken). I'm using kde 4.3.4 btw. Cheers Gunther ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar
On Tuesday, 2015-05-12, 15:46:16, Gunther Clasen wrote: -Original Message- From: kde [mailto:kde-boun...@mail.kde.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Krammer Sent: 12 May 2015 15:34 To: kde@mail.kde.org Subject: Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar On Tuesday, 2015-05-12, 14:09:41, Duncan wrote: ianseeks posted on Tue, 12 May 2015 14:16:45 +0100 as excerpted: On Tuesday 12 May 2015 11:57:52 Gunther Clasen wrote: Hi, I am pretty new to kde 4 (not kde, which I've been using for 15+ years now), and some things puzzle me. I am used to grouping tasks in the taskbar, and kde4 didn't migrate that setting from kde3. Now with the taskbar full of applications (it needs only 5 applications open to fill the taskbar on a wide-screen monitor), there seems to be NO WAY to configure the taskbar to group the tasks. One needs to close the applications first in order to have free space on the taskbar to do a right-click to bring up the config menu. Is that behaviour actually intended, or have I missed something? Cheers Gunther Have you tried a right click on the taskbar? I get grouping options on the window that pops up. Umm... he /said/ with the taskbar full (5 apps is all it took), there's no way to right-click on the taskbar, without clicking on an app entry instead. (Apparently app-entries don't have the appropriate options, I don't use a taskbar so I wouldn't know.) They do. Cheers, Kevin Yes, right-clicking on some _empty_ space on what seems to be called panel nowadays gives me the Task Manager Settings, which has grouping options. Well, Kevin, if these app entries in the taskbar have grouping options, then I cannot see them. Rather than saying yes, they are there, please post where they are. Otherwise I will have to assume that this option is unavailable on a full task bar (aka broken). I have the same Window List Settings entry in the context menu for the panel itself, as well as in the context menu of each app entry in the list. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
