Re: After updating to Debian 11, many problem in KDE
Am 19.10.2023 19:45, schrieb René J.V. Bertin: Hi again! After some days without any problem, I can just suppose, that the problem of ksmserver was a bug to restore the saved session... It is quite possible that the new version isn't perfectly backwards-compatible with session-restore files from previous versions because it's hard to test for such things and many devs consider it sufficient to use "asserts" to protect against unforeseen or non-handled situations. End-users will just see that as a crash. After some times without any problem, now I have the problem again... I use the wrapper for ksmserver again and I see this error: Qt: Session management error: networkIdsList argument is NULL Actually I didn't find anything that could send this error... Any idea? Thanks Luca Bertoncello (lucab...@lucabert.de)
Re: After updating to Debian 11, many problem in KDE
On Thursday October 19 2023 19:09:35 Luca Bertoncello wrote: >After some days without any problem, I can just suppose, that the >problem of ksmserver was a bug to restore the saved session... It is quite possible that the new version isn't perfectly backwards-compatible with session-restore files from previous versions because it's hard to test for such things and many devs consider it sufficient to use "asserts" to protect against unforeseen or non-handled situations. End-users will just see that as a crash. I moved one of the accounts I maintain to another DE for a similar reason: the migration from Plasma4 gave me an empty screen 2x or 3x in a row.
Re: After updating to Debian 11, many problem in KDE
Am 17.10.2023 um 21:03 schrieb Luca Bertoncello: Hi again > I reconfigured KDE to always start with an empty session, which is > better for me (don't ask why it wasn't configured already so...). > Let's see, if it will work better... After some days without any problem, I can just suppose, that the problem of ksmserver was a bug to restore the saved session... Since I don't need that, I configured KDE not to do that. Since there, no problem anymore... Regards Luca Bertoncello (lucab...@lucabert.de)
Re: After updating to Debian 11, many problem in KDE
Am 17.10.2023 um 12:09 schrieb René J.V. Bertin: > On Tuesday October 17 2023 09:31:09 Luca Bertoncello wrote: > > \>It appears a little window from startkde with the message "startkde: >> Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation." >> >> Unfortunately I couldn't find any other detailled error. > > *Something* launches `startkde`. On my legacy KUbuntu system that's > `upstart`, and this keeps a logfile that contains all the terminal output of > applications launched through the GUI. I don't know what service Debian 11 > uses to bootstrap the desktop environment but my bet is that it must leave a > logfile somewhere. > > If not, there is always the possibility to rename the ksmserver binary to > ksmserver.bin (or something like that) and put a shell script at its place > that launches this renamed binary and redirects all output to file. So, I tried with the wrapper. And ksmserver crashed. In the log I see, the problem was by starting a program to recover the last KDE session. The program crashed and ksmserver crashed, too. I reconfigured KDE to always start with an empty session, which is better for me (don't ask why it wasn't configured already so...). Let's see, if it will work better... Regards Luca Bertoncello (lucab...@lucabert.de)
Re: After updating to Debian 11, many problem in KDE
Am 17.10.2023 12:09, schrieb René J.V. Bertin: Hi René, *Something* launches `startkde`. On my legacy KUbuntu system that's `upstart`, and this keeps a logfile that contains all the terminal output of applications launched through the GUI. I don't know what service Debian 11 uses to bootstrap the desktop environment but my bet is that it must leave a logfile somewhere. I suppose, it will be started von SDDM or something other launched by SDDM... But, as I said, I didn't found any log file... I don't know which name it could be have, anyway... If not, there is always the possibility to rename the ksmserver binary to ksmserver.bin (or something like that) and put a shell script at its place that launches this renamed binary and redirects all output to file. That could be an idea... I'll try this evening... But have you checked if ksmserver exists on your system and that `ksmserver --help` executes OK? It will be executed without problem... I forgot to say, that sometimes I have the problem, sometimes not... Thanks Luca Bertoncello (lucab...@lucabert.de)
Re: After updating to Debian 11, many problem in KDE
On Tuesday October 17 2023 09:31:09 Luca Bertoncello wrote: \>It appears a little window from startkde with the message "startkde: >Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation." > >Unfortunately I couldn't find any other detailled error. *Something* launches `startkde`. On my legacy KUbuntu system that's `upstart`, and this keeps a logfile that contains all the terminal output of applications launched through the GUI. I don't know what service Debian 11 uses to bootstrap the desktop environment but my bet is that it must leave a logfile somewhere. If not, there is always the possibility to rename the ksmserver binary to ksmserver.bin (or something like that) and put a shell script at its place that launches this renamed binary and redirects all output to file. But have you checked if ksmserver exists on your system and that `ksmserver --help` executes OK? R.
After updating to Debian 11, many problem in KDE
Hi list! Last sunday I updated my PC from Debian 10 to Debian 11. I use KDE/Plasma als Desktop-Manager. Since the update I have often problem at login. It appears a little window from startkde with the message "startkde: Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation." Unfortunately I couldn't find any other detailled error. I checked in Google and I see, many other people had the problem, but I didn't found any solution that worked for me... :( Could someone help me? Thanks a lot Luca Bertoncello (lucab...@lucabert.de)
