[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2018-08-29 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387718

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2018-06-03 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387718

--- Comment #16 from Nate Graham  ---
Responded in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1524756. :)

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2018-06-01 Thread Rex Dieter
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387718

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--- Comment #15 from Rex Dieter  ---
Any suggestions on how best to actually implement this request?  (Sorry, it's
not obvious to me)

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-12 Thread Christophe Giboudeaux
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387718

--- Comment #14 from Christophe Giboudeaux  ---
FTR, we closed/wontfix for openSUSE.

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-12 Thread Aleix Pol
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--- Comment #13 from Aleix Pol  ---
FWIW I think the big difference here is that you assume that the user will
eventually install flatpak and have it ready to run, whereas my understanding
is that flatpak (and snap) should come built-in in distros by default soon.

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387718

--- Comment #12 from Nate Graham  ---
Distro bug reports:
- Ubuntu:  
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1737645
- Fedora:   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1524756
- Manjaro:  https://bugs.manjaro.org/#ticket/zoom/17870
- openSUSE: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1072285

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387718

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 Resolution|--- |DOWNSTREAM
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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #11 from Nate Graham  ---
Sorry, wasn't trying to nitpick. I don't think it's like your LibreOffice
example; there are plenty of people who would use a computer without
libreoffice. But what's the use case for someone to install the Flatpak backend
without Flathub?

Still, if this has to be a downstream matter, that's fine. I'll make my case to
the distros.

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Aleix Pol
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--- Comment #10 from Aleix Pol  ---
Well, what we can't do is modify the user's system just because.
Also please don't nitpick on my wording when I'm trying to convey an idea.

Adding it automatically would be something like "install libreoffice
automatically on the first Discover run, because it's the only stable office
suit in linux".

We won't go modifying stuff because the distribution didn't bother. Instead, we
should advocate for a vision on how users will adopt their software on their
systems while making it easy for users of distros that didn't care to have the
minimal features at reach.

I'm open to adding actions, buttons, notifications but I don't consider
acceptable to add a source automatically.

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #9 from Nate Graham  ---
I'm trying to think about this from the perspective of my wife, a user of
Plasma and Discover. If she saw that pop-up, she would think "What's a Flatpak?
What's Flathub? What are my repositories, and do I actually want them modified?
What does any of this mean? How should I know the right answer? I just want to
see what apps are available."

These technologies are great, but we don't need to push their jargon in the
user's faces, especially when we can do a good of anticipating what they
*would* want to do.

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Nate Graham
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--- Comment #8 from Nate Graham  ---
What's the use case for a person who would answer "no"? to that? Since Flathub
is really the only production-ready Flatpak repo right now, my preference would
be just add it automatically. The Flatpak backend isn't very useful without it.

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Aleix Pol
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--- Comment #7 from Aleix Pol  ---
Do you reckon it would be better if we showed a passive notification at start
saying "we recommend you add flathub to your flatpak repositories "?

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387718

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--- Comment #6 from Nate Graham  ---
Is this really up to distros? I was very surprised that I had to manually add
Flathub after installing the Flatpak backend. It's not very useful without at
least one Flatpak source.

It seems reasonable that distros might adjust this, but why not provide a sane
default so they don't have to if they're satisfied with Flatpak? This would
also help users (like me) who manually install the Flatpak backend and just
want it to work with a minimum of fuss.

I can try to work with the Kubuntu plasma-discover maintainers, but the none of
the other distros will get this without their own work. I think we would
provide a better user experience with a sane default.

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-11 Thread Aleix Pol
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 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #5 from Aleix Pol  ---
It's not Discover's job to modify the installation. I'd complain to your
distribution.

One thing I did add for 5.12 is a menu entry in settings called "add flathub"
that does so. The user still needs to install, we can advertise it more
aggressively though.

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[Discover] [Bug 387718] Add Flathub by default with Flatpak backend

2017-12-10 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387718

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