[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2024-03-29 Thread 0BADC0DE
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452818

--- Comment #17 from 0BADC0DE  ---
(In reply to Juraj from comment #16)
> My guess is that the "pinned tabs" feature is recycled code from browser
> pinned tabs feature.

This IS the "pinned tabs" feature and it needs to be re-used (more than
re-cycled).
I think that it simply uses hard-coded or implicit orientation information.
Which is also seen in other places, like in
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480592 .

IMHO the rationale for this could be that nowadays available horizontal room is
more than the vertical one. So putting bars vertically can leave more vertical
room for contents. At least this is why I use vertical bars.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2023-04-30 Thread Juraj
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--- Comment #16 from Juraj  ---
(In reply to EnzoR from comment #14)
> Any reasonable feedback on this?
> As of today (v23.04.0), Vertical tabs is STILL pinning tabs horizontally.
> If this is an intended feature, I would like to know the rational behind it,
> if any.
> If it is not, then please mr/mrs Assignee, put any feedback here. For the
> sake of hope.

My guess is that the "pinned tabs" feature is recycled code from browser pinned
tabs feature.

As for reason why this was not implemented so far, Falkon development stalled
for a while and now there is some progress made in many areas (as can be seen
in changelog), as for this feature I did not work on it and I did not see any
patch.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2023-04-28 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #15 from EnzoR  ---
I correct myself.
v23.04.0 is Falkon version.
v0.1.0 is "Vertical tabs" module version.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2023-04-28 Thread EnzoR
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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2023-04-28 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #14 from EnzoR  ---
Any reasonable feedback on this?
As of today (v23.04.0), Vertical tabs is STILL pinning tabs horizontally.
If this is an intended feature, I would like to know the rational behind it, if
any.
If it is not, then please mr/mrs Assignee, put any feedback here. For the sake
of hope.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-23 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #13 from EnzoR  ---
Created attachment 149136
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Vivaldi vertical tabs

(In reply to genghiskhan from comment #12)
> (In reply to EnzoR from comment #8)
> > Vertical tabs: arrange tabs vertically.
> > 
> > Finally, @genghisk...@gmx.ca, what's wrong with contents not fitting the
> > screen area and requiring a scroller widget?
> 
> Please elaborate.  I didn't understand the question.

See newly attached screenshot. This is Vivaldi browser v5.
I have 15 tabs, arranged vertically inside the vertical tab on the left.
First 7 are pinned, cannot be closed and are placed in the topmost part of the
vertical area.
Next 8 are unpinned, can be closed at any time and are vertically placed into
the lower part of the same are.
I can see both the site favicon and the leading part of the title.
If I put 100 vertical tabs a vertical scrolling widget will be added, but no
extra horizontal screen real estate is spent, even if I pin them all.
And everything is kept ... vertically.

I think I am not able to make it any clearer than this. Sorry.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-23 Thread bugzilla_noreply
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452818

--- Comment #12 from genghisk...@gmx.ca ---
(In reply to EnzoR from comment #8)
> Vertical tabs: arrange tabs vertically.
> 
> Finally, @genghisk...@gmx.ca, what's wrong with contents not fitting the
> screen area and requiring a scroller widget?

Please elaborate.  I didn't understand the question.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-23 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #11 from EnzoR  ---
Created attachment 149135
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Horizontally pinned vertical tabs

In case there is still any doubt, I am attaching a screenshot detailing the
appearance of horizontally pinned "vertical tabs".

1. I cannot read the page titles, not even partially. Just the icons. If pinned
vertically I could read at least the leading part of the title and I could
scroll to read it all.

2. It is eating a fairly large amount of horizontal real estate. Exactly like
with default horizontal tabs. It doesn't add any benefit, it makes the feature
much less useful and defies the goals of the feature: saving horizontal screen
real estate in landscape diplays.

3. Vivaldi is another browser that has vertical tabs and keeps them vertically
arranged, no matter whether they are pinned or not. This way the feature makes
always sense and achieves the goal.

So, it doesn't make any sense as it is now. Does it?

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-10 Thread bugzilla_noreply
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--- Comment #10 from genghisk...@gmx.ca ---
(In reply to EnzoR from comment #7)
> Created attachment 148704 [details]
> 20 (unpinned ) vertical tabs within smaller screen estate
> 
> On the left you can see the tab scroller widget.

Considering that pinned tabs are either frequent or WebApp tabs.
Yes, but it means that I need to scroll to the pinned tabs again and again,
even if they are at the top.
What if I have over 50 or even 500 opened tabs?
I need these pinned ones to be accessible and fast.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-10 Thread bugzilla_noreply
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--- Comment #9 from genghisk...@gmx.ca ---
I've answered at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453574

I see that settings allow to have custom CSS style.  Perhaps this is possible
to change using a CSS file?

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-10 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #8 from EnzoR  ---
Vertical tabs: arrange tabs vertically.

Horizontal tabs: arrange tabs horizontally.

Horizontal Pinned tabs are not arranged vertically. Are they?

"Pinned" status is not meant to affect widgets placement but rather its
"stability" status.

Finally, @genghisk...@gmx.ca, what's wrong with contents not fitting the screen
area and requiring a scroller widget?

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-10 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #7 from EnzoR  ---
Created attachment 148704
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=148704=edit
20 (unpinned ) vertical tabs within smaller screen estate

On the left you can see the tab scroller widget.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-10 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #6 from EnzoR  ---
Created attachment 148703
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20 (unpinned) vertical tabs

If you need 20 vertical tabs, I presume you know that they could not fit
vertically...

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-09 Thread bugzilla_noreply
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--- Comment #5 from genghisk...@gmx.ca ---
I agree on the descriptiob part. 
It should be updated accordingly.

How do you suggest to handle pinned tabs?
Please also consider the number of pinned tabs.

You have 3 pinned tabs. OK
You have 10 pinned tabs. Not OK as it would consume roughly 1/3 of space.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-09 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #4 from EnzoR  ---
My pinned tabs would not consume any extra vertical space than unpinned tabs. 

Again, the feature is called "vertical tabs" and not "vertical tabs with
horizontal pinned ones". Isn't it?

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-09 Thread bugzilla_noreply
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--- Comment #3 from genghisk...@gmx.ca ---
I understand, but otherwize, the pinned tabs will consume more visual space.
The pinned tabs are icons when on the tab scrollbar, so it seems reasonable to
have the pinned tabs horizontally.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-09 Thread EnzoR
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--- Comment #2 from EnzoR  ---
I think that "vertical tabs" should mean ... one tab on top of the others.
Default behaviours is already "horizontal tabs" which should mean ... one tab
aside of the others.

Nope, I think this is just a bug.

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[Falkon] [Bug 452818] Vertical tabs puts pinned tabs horizontally

2022-05-07 Thread bugzilla_noreply
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--- Comment #1 from genghisk...@gmx.ca ---
Isn't it the intended behaviour?
I find the current arrangement useful.

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