[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 chim...@thespicers.net changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REPORTED|CONFIRMED Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #11 from chim...@thespicers.net --- I can confirm this behaviour with the 04/02/2024 10:33 8.3.0 snapshot on Windows 11. Face *detection* across ~13,000 photos works well. However, after I manually identify ~14 new people from Unknown and assign faces to them (at least 5 faces for 8 of the people), the recognition step proceeds to incorrectly recognise hundreds of faces as just one person. The vast majority of these are completely different people that don't resemble the assigned person at all. I have not seen it ever assign faces to any other person. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
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[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 at...@electropositive.net changed: What|Removed |Added CC||at...@electropositive.net --- Comment #10 from at...@electropositive.net --- Yeah there is something really wrong with the face recognition, it is simply not working as it should - not exactly a hard thing to do any more either, the tech has been out for a very long time. So not only are we met with 4 days or more of waiting to detect faces, then we're met with bad results. It's quicker to do them manually, even for 90,000 images and that's embarrassing. I suspect, clicking minus (not this person) and tick (yes this person), is not actually training the model as it should be. That's what it 'feels' like to me, but could be wrong. This is still happening on 8.3.0. I have access to Windows, Linux and Mac and various drives and an Nvidia GPU if anyone wants me to help in any way. On my wish list, we would get GPU acceleration working first, which seems counter intuitive if it gives bad results, but the reasoning is we don't have to wait days and redo it all the time just to find out it didn't work. Then after GPU we would focus on quality face matching problems. Unless of course it's a simple as 'oh the tick and minus aren't actually training it', then yeah, probably pays to do that. I also have a large number of scanned negatives that are 300MB tiffs at 4800dpi. Obviously they're slow. The faces do detect though. But perhaps that screws up the recognition system, I don't know. Sadly, in my relatively new, but fairly exhausting usage (exhausting as in time spent this weekend), face detection really isn't a working feature. Hopefully we can get it fixed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 --- Comment #9 from Hans Lauter --- Created attachment 162319 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=162319=edit Wrong image recognition An example: If I go on the suggestions for myself as a person in digikam. Around 50-100 different people are suggested there, several flowers, a dog, a package of burger king and dumbledore is assigned to me. In case of the flowers and the package of burger king: Ok the image detection failed. But why are they assigned to me? Its ok to have them in the category "unknown", but they have nothing to do with me (considering the accuracy is set to 90%). Moreover, the 50-100 people look totally different than me. Nevertheless, they all tag-suggested as me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 Hans Lauter changed: What|Removed |Added CC||lavaw...@getnada.com --- Comment #8 from Hans Lauter --- I have the same problem. The suggestions of face recognition output many wrong results. Around 20-40% of all suggestions are right. This makes the manual rework quite tedious (the benefit of using a face recognition evaporates). Digikam suggests faces, which are completely different from each other. For example a young boy gets assigned to the same person like the ones from a 80 yo lady. It makes no sense at all. On the other side images which are completely similar to already labelled ones, are not suggested, but are put in the group "unknown". So yeah, I can confirm, this recognition is guess work. Face detection works quite good (it sometimes detects objects as people, but the failure rate is here is acceptable), but face recognition malperforms. Some additions: - Deleting all databases and rebuilding them did not help - Retraining the model (maintenance/...) did not help - Changing the accuracy slider from the default 70% to 90% did not help (maybe it changed the quantity, but not quality). I use digikam 8.1.0. Sidenote: I noted that if I did labeled just a few pictures (~10) for a person, then the suggestions are way better but also much less. So if I label 10 pictures to a person X, the algortihm returns lets sa 5-20 pictures, which are actually that person. But for a person Y, if I label > 100 more pictures, the suggestion become really bad. Isn't it the opposite, that AI get better, the more you give? You might say: Then I gave many bad labelled images to person Y. But no, the pictures for person Y are in a good quality, similar facial expression, so the variance is not too high. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 --- Comment #7 from caulier.gil...@gmail.com --- @Jonathan, This problem still reproducible with the new digiKam 8.2.0 pre-release Windows installer available at usual place: https://files.kde.org/digikam/ This new bundle is based on last Qt framework 5.15.11 and KDE framework 5.110. Thanks in advance Gilles Caulier -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 caulier.gil...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||caulier.gil...@gmail.com --- Comment #6 from caulier.gil...@gmail.com --- @Jonathan digiKam 8.0.0 is out. This entry still valid with this release ? Best regards Gilles Caulier -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 José Oliver-Didier changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jose_oli...@hotmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 Andrei changed: What|Removed |Added CC||avmaksi...@yandex.ru -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 --- Comment #5 from Maik Qualmann --- Git commit 5258bccf8eca4ae28ae5075438c1a85bf895d4c5 by Maik Qualmann. Committed on 02/06/2022 at 17:03. Pushed by mqualmann into branch 'qt5-maintenance'. fix wrong accuracy value in face recognition from maintenance dialog Related: bug 436544, bug 432537, bug 431797, bug 436727 M +1-1core/utilities/facemanagement/database/facescansettings.cpp M +3-1core/utilities/maintenance/maintenancemngr.cpp https://invent.kde.org/graphics/digikam/commit/5258bccf8eca4ae28ae5075438c1a85bf895d4c5 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 --- Comment #4 from dajomu --- Are there any progress on this issue and especially what is mentioned in this comment "Even though they may not match a known person they should be auto categorized into groups of different unknown faces." Grouping unknowns by face would make the training a whole lot easier. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 jan.waldh...@gmx.de changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jan.waldh...@gmx.de -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 dajomu changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dajo...@gmail.com --- Comment #3 from dajomu --- I agree with Jonathan. Instead of listing unknown and unconfirmed faces as an endless list of photos, similar faces should be grouped like e.g. Picasa. In digikam there is one "album" which contains unknown faces while in Picasa there are one album for each unknown face. One example can be seen here: https://spekxvision.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/052316_0930_facialrecog1.png -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 --- Comment #2 from Jonathan --- Obviously it varies some have 100+ faces, and some only have a few samples. However, I still have 20,000+ unmatched faces. Even though they may not match a known person they should be auto categorized into groups of different unknown faces. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[digikam] [Bug 444160] Facing matching is guess work at best
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444160 Maik Qualmann changed: What|Removed |Added CC||metzping...@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Maik Qualmann --- How many faces did you learn per person? Maik -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
