[dolphin] [Bug 454438] No option to turn off the default full row selection

2022-06-30 Thread Bug Janitor Service
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454438

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[dolphin] [Bug 454438] No option to turn off the default full row selection

2022-06-15 Thread Bug Janitor Service
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454438

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[dolphin] [Bug 454438] No option to turn off the default full row selection

2022-06-01 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454438

--- Comment #3 from Nate Graham  ---
We don't copy Windows or macOS for the sake of copying them; see
https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Design/Lessons_Learned#Copying_other_platforms

Let's focus on the problems that are being caused here.


> Sometimes I want to select some folders or files that happen to have longer 
> names than the others
> so I use the trick of dragging the mouse and making the normal 
> multi-selection rectangle, but I drag
> it left so that it just touches the folders or files that have the longer 
> names and stop immediately to
> not go further and select also the others.
> I see that this is still possible in the compact view mode, but my favorite 
> view mode is the Details one
> which I use almost all the time and it's exactly the one that is affected
This is still possible in Details view. You can click and drag from anywhere
that's not the filename or icon, and it will start a box selection.

> I see that there is some space on the right too, when the window is in 
> fullscreen mode.
> When it's tiled to the right half screen there's no empty space left on the 
> right
Yes, when there's not much horizontal space and the view has to become
scrollable, the empty space is only visible on the left. This is intentional,
but shouldn't be a problem because there is some empty space there.

> And another problem that I can notice even in fullscreen mode, is that if you 
> resize for whatever reason the "Modified"
> column or > whatever column is last until it touches the right edge, then the 
> empty space on the right side disappears.
Ditto.

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[dolphin] [Bug 454438] No option to turn off the default full row selection

2022-05-28 Thread John
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454438

--- Comment #2 from John  ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> The change is intentional, so let's focus on the problems you're having with
> it so we can try to address them without reverting the change or making it
> optional. We would like to only do one of those as a last resort.
> 
> > there's no place where I can click safely without something unexpectedly 
> > open
> There is empty space on the left side of the file view that you can click
> in. You can also de-select everything by hitting the Esc key.
> 
> Is that okay?

Would simply saying that I don't like it or that I like the old behavior more
be a valid answer?
I'm a long time Windows 7 user and a KDE Plasma user for about 4 years and I
like the old behavior.
I  never felt that that something need to be improved there or that I need a
whole row selection.
Maybe also because it's more careless and fast, I can drop folder or files
pretty much anywhere in the main folder as long as I don't drop the on other
folders, which is easy as they are all on the left side, instead of having to
care to drop them exactly at the narrow space at the edges.

Sometimes I want to select some folders or files that happen to have longer
names than the others so I use the trick of dragging the mouse and making the
normal multi-selection rectangle, but I drag it left so that it just touches
the folders or files that have the longer names and stop immediately to not go
further and select also the others.
I see that this is still possible in the compact view mode, but my favorite
view mode is the Details one which I use almost all the time and it's exactly
the one that is affected

Another thing that I want is to move in the future my family and friends to
Linux and KDE Plasma of course, but I bet some of them will be annoyed by the
behavior that it's not like in Windows with which they are used to and will ask
me to change it, to which of course I will have to say that I can't making me
wonder if I did the right thing of moving them to Linux or moving them to KDE
Plasma instead of Cinnamon or other DE that might be more Windows-like.
Depending on how many little things like this they don't like I will be forced
to move them or an older version of KDE Plasma in case I want them to still
benefit from Wayland but don't have the things they don't like, are used to or
willing to learn.

Why is it exactly such a big deal to make it optional?

Shouldn't Windows or KDE Plasma have had it from the beginning or way more in
the past if it was so clear that majority of users wanted it?

I don't know, but I don't want to bring frustration to my family members and
friends I cannot customize KDE to behave like Windows in case they prefer that
behavior and that will mean that I will not introduce KDE to them, but another
one that is more adaptable.

It's not what I want, but also I'm not used to KDE to bring features without an
option to turn them off or change them in any way.

As for the empty space, I am seeing it now, I have a bit of tunnel vision and
it's easier for me to miss some things on the sides.

I see that there is some space on the right too, when the window is in
fullscreen mode.
When it's tiled to the right half screen there's no empty space left on the
right
And another problem that I can notice even in fullscreen mode, is that if you
resize for whatever reason the "Modified" column or whatever column is last
until it touches the right edge, then the empty space on the right side
disappears.
On the left that seems to not be a problem.

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[dolphin] [Bug 454438] No option to turn off the default full row selection

2022-05-26 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454438

Nate Graham  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham  ---
The change is intentional, so let's focus on the problems you're having with it
so we can try to address them without reverting the change or making it
optional. We would like to only do one of those as a last resort.

> there's no place where I can click safely without something unexpectedly open
There is empty space on the left side of the file view that you can click in.
You can also de-select everything by hitting the Esc key.

Is that okay?

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[dolphin] [Bug 454438] No option to turn off the default full row selection

2022-05-26 Thread John
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454438

John  changed:

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