[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #20 from Christoph Cullmann --- (In reply to Andrew Shark from comment #19) > > I assume you have Dolphin set to remember view settings per-directory > Of course! A very important feature of Dolphin. > > Probably it will be good to have a sorting option "Follow Dolphin view". In > Dolphin there are lots of ways to sort. Some of them make no sense in > Gwenview, lets say "sort by file owner". Lets say I sorted by owner. Now I > open Gwenview. Then I switch to some other order in Gwenview. Now I can no > longer go back to "sort by file owner" in Gwenview (I can only close it and > open again by clicking image from dolphin). > So it makes sense to make the "Follow Dolphin view" sorting option. That would be fine for me, too, the current way is just very confusing, it doesn't follow what it set and it doesn't remember what I did set. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #19 from Andrew Shark --- > I assume you have Dolphin set to remember view settings per-directory Of course! A very important feature of Dolphin. Probably it will be good to have a sorting option "Follow Dolphin view". In Dolphin there are lots of ways to sort. Some of them make no sense in Gwenview, lets say "sort by file owner". Lets say I sorted by owner. Now I open Gwenview. Then I switch to some other order in Gwenview. Now I can no longer go back to "sort by file owner" in Gwenview (I can only close it and open again by clicking image from dolphin). So it makes sense to make the "Follow Dolphin view" sorting option. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #18 from Jörg <2un1yj...@sneakemail.com> --- Many people do NOT use Dolphin, but other file managers like Krusader. Gwenview should not depend on any setting in a file manager. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #17 from Thomas Capricelli --- The current behaviour is complete non-sense, i really can't see any reason to do so. There's no coherency with behaviour and what appears in menu, there's no coherency between quitting/restarting the application. I really don't understand why gwenview should be incoherent and follow the settings of something totally unrelated such as dolphin, while still pretending having its own settings. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #16 from Robin Bankhead --- (In reply to Andrew Shark from comment #13) > > I fail to see why it should be in sync with Dolphin at all > > That is incorrect. My use case is that I do not use Gwenview as an image > browser, but as image viewer. I set the Esc key to quit Gwenview, not to go > to Browse mode. I click an image in Dolphin, then start switching images > with right and left arrows. In dolphin I have a folder sorted by date (I > sometimes rename my screenshots, but want them to be shown in order when > they were taken). Gwenview showed me the wrong order. I then realized that > it has its own order, not used the order from Dolphin. > > So Gwenview should sort images in sync with Dolphin view. At least when > image was opened by click from Dolphin. Or at least there should be an > option for such behavior. Interesting. From your comment I assume you have Dolphin set to remember view settings per-directory (IIRC this involves dropping a .directory file in the folder). So Gwenview is ignoring these files - perhaps not surprising, it has no setting that mirrors this. I think your issue is external to this bug, though similar in character (sort of). It would certainly make sense for Gwenview to obey the .directory files (perhaps ideally as an optional setting, in KDE philosophy). I would report it separately. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #15 from JoostR --- (In reply to Robin Bankhead from comment #5) > It doesn't make any sense for Gwenview to revert to obeying Dolphin's > ordering instead of persisting the ordering chosen in its own UI, across > multiple direct launches (i.e. not from within Dolphin). > > Gwenview should have its own ordering setting, but able to be overridden on > invocation (which the onus then is on Dolphin to do). This might be of > benefit for other external apps calling Gwenview also. That sounds like a great way to approach it ! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #14 from JoostR --- (In reply to Andrew Shark from comment #13) > > I fail to see why it should be in sync with Dolphin at all > > That is incorrect. My use case is that I do not use Gwenview as an image > browser, but as image viewer. I set the Esc key to quit Gwenview, not to go > to Browse mode. I click an image in Dolphin, then start switching images > with right and left arrows. In dolphin I have a folder sorted by date (I > sometimes rename my screenshots, but want them to be shown in order when > they were taken). Gwenview showed me the wrong order. I then realized that > it has its own order, not used the order from Dolphin. > > So Gwenview should sort images in sync with Dolphin view. At least when > image was opened by click from Dolphin. Or at least there should be an > option for such behavior. I'm happy to see some activity on this bug report, after what is already a long time: almost two years ! Nothing has changed in the meantime, and my views have crystallized a bit in the meantime: - if gwenview is intended as an image viewer for Dolphin, it should perhaps simply be integrated into Dolphin or be installed as a component of it. It doesn't need to have its own sort settings in that case. - if gwenview is intended an independent application with its own settings, it is extremely counterintuitive that its settings are overridden by another application. Which is why I filed the bug report. I don't think I know of any other application that has this kind of dependency in its settings. To somebody who rarely uses Dolphin, it makes no sense. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Andrew Shark changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ash...@linuxcomp.ru --- Comment #13 from Andrew Shark --- > I fail to see why it should be in sync with Dolphin at all That is incorrect. My use case is that I do not use Gwenview as an image browser, but as image viewer. I set the Esc key to quit Gwenview, not to go to Browse mode. I click an image in Dolphin, then start switching images with right and left arrows. In dolphin I have a folder sorted by date (I sometimes rename my screenshots, but want them to be shown in order when they were taken). Gwenview showed me the wrong order. I then realized that it has its own order, not used the order from Dolphin. So Gwenview should sort images in sync with Dolphin view. At least when image was opened by click from Dolphin. Or at least there should be an option for such behavior. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #12 from Robin Bankhead --- (In reply to Christoph Cullmann from comment #11) > The first thing I need to do is always to set the order twice. It shows sort > by name, but doesn't do that, I need to set an other one and set it back. > > I think the old behaviour was a lot saner, I fail to see why it should be in > sync with Dolphin at all, e.g. Kate or even our file open dialogs are not in > sync and that makes sense. Very small clarification: You don't need to flip to another selection and back; clicking on the (already-selected) radio causes it to take its correct effect. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #11 from Christoph Cullmann --- The first thing I need to do is always to set the order twice. It shows sort by name, but doesn't do that, I need to set an other one and set it back. I think the old behaviour was a lot saner, I fail to see why it should be in sync with Dolphin at all, e.g. Kate or even our file open dialogs are not in sync and that makes sense. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #10 from Thomas Capricelli --- (In reply to Andrew from comment #9) > For me the annoying case is very simple and not related with Dolphin at all. > To get natural order for date sorting: > - Open Gwenview > - Untick "Descending" in "Sort by" > - Tick it again That's exactly what we are all complaining about / reporting. For a long time :-( -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Andrew changed: What|Removed |Added CC||travn...@gmail.com --- Comment #9 from Andrew --- For me the annoying case is very simple and not related with Dolphin at all. To get natural order for date sorting: - Open Gwenview - Untick "Descending" in "Sort by" - Tick it again -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Christoph Cullmann changed: What|Removed |Added CC||cullm...@kde.org --- Comment #8 from Christoph Cullmann --- I am always confused by that, too. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Freddy Vejen changed: What|Removed |Added CC|fred...@yahoo.com | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Oleksiy Zagorskyi changed: What|Removed |Added CC||oleksii.zagors...@gmail.com --- Comment #7 from Oleksiy Zagorskyi --- Other reports which likely are duplicates of current one: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454694 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462691 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464959 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 glaebho...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|REPORTED|CONFIRMED --- Comment #6 from glaebho...@gmail.com --- *** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Jörg <2un1yj...@sneakemail.com> changed: What|Removed |Added CC||2un1yj...@sneakemail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Robin Bankhead changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kde.b...@headbank.co.uk --- Comment #5 from Robin Bankhead --- It doesn't make any sense for Gwenview to revert to obeying Dolphin's ordering instead of persisting the ordering chosen in its own UI, across multiple direct launches (i.e. not from within Dolphin). Gwenview should have its own ordering setting, but able to be overridden on invocation (which the onus then is on Dolphin to do). This might be of benefit for other external apps calling Gwenview also. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Thomas Capricelli changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kdebugs.20.orzelf@spamgourm ||et.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Freddy Vejen changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fred...@yahoo.com --- Comment #4 from Freddy Vejen --- gwenview ignores setting Sort By The default sort is by name in the hamburger menu / Sort By / radio button, but when I start gwenview and choose a folder containing picture files, gwenview does not sort the files by name, but by date. When I change any setting in the Sort By menu, gwenview sorts the files according to the new setting. Then I close and start gwenview again and click on the folder with the pictures, the Sort By setting in the menu is still as I left it when closing gwenview, but the pictures are sorted by date again. I must change a setting to activate a sorting. If I choose sort by date and close gwenview, a setting appears in ~/.config/gwenviewrc: [ThumbnailView] Sorting=Sorting::Date If I choose sorting by name, that setting section gets removed at closing gwenview. If I choose sorting by size, a setting appears in ~/.config/gwenviewrc: [ThumbnailView] Sorting=Sorting::Size When I start gwenview again, the Sort By setting in the menu is still as I left it when closing gwenview, I tried editing ~/.config/gwenviewrc to contain [ThumbnailView] Sorting=Sorting::Name but but the pictures are sorted by date anyway when I start gwenview again. Closing gwenview and editing ~/.config/gwenviewrc to have Sorting=Sorting::Name or Sorting=Sorting::Size has the effect, that when starting gwenview the setting in the Sort By menu is as set in ~/.config/gwenviewrc, but the actual sorting is still by date. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 Scandrof changed: What|Removed |Added CC||scand...@yahoo.com --- Comment #3 from Scandrof --- Gwenview following Dolphin's sort order is also causing a lot of problems for me. I often use a bash script to select a random image folder & open the first picture in Gwenview. Maybe an option could be added to Gwenview's settings to give users a choice between following Dolphin's sort order or keeping Gwenview independent of Dolphin? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #2 from JoostR --- Also for extremely large folders (>10k images) sorting by date takes quite some time in Gwenview, which is another reason it is not desirable for the Gwenview settings to be overriden. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[gwenview] [Bug 443168] gwenview ignores settings in initial sort order
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443168 --- Comment #1 from JoostR --- To clarify my use a bit more: for many years I have used Gwenview for presentations, using folders (and subfolders) with hundreds of alphabetically organized symbolic links to images and clips. For this to work Gwenview has to have a settable default sorting behaviour. Typically I find my most recently edited presentation folder in Dolphin in a 'sorted by date' view, open it in Gwenview and want my images sorted by name as set in the Gwenview settings. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
