[kde] [Bug 220733] Option to hide scrollbars system wide

2020-10-01 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220733

--- Comment #11 from Nate Graham  ---
We had a phab task for that but I can't find it anymore. :/

TBH people seemed pretty burned out on the scrollbar stuff by the time we
finalized the current finally-consistent approach, so I dunno how much desire
there will be to revisit the situation. :) I think the status quo makes some
intuitive sense though: on the desktop, you get traditional desktop-style
scrollbars, while on mobile, or on the desktop with touch, you get skinny
mostly-disappearing mobile-style scrollbars. I don't think there's really that
much demand for mobile-style scrollbars on the desktop. Most of the feedback we
got about this over the years was negative.

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[kde] [Bug 220733] Option to hide scrollbars system wide

2020-10-01 Thread Dhaval Patel
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220733

--- Comment #10 from Dhaval Patel  ---
You are correct, the original intent was to just hide them similar to what the
other KDE applications did.

Should I open another ticket for this enhancement to follow the
behavior/implementation that macOS provides?

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[kde] [Bug 220733] Option to hide scrollbars system wide

2020-09-29 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220733

--- Comment #9 from Nate Graham  ---
That's a different thing from what I thought you originally proposed. Hidden
until in use is a very different thing from "hidden".

Either way what we have now is that scrollbars are visible when using a
desktop-style environment, but when using QML-based apps with touch, they
become very very tiny and overlay style so they don't take up space or get in
the way. It was hoped that this would be the best of both worlds.

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[kde] [Bug 220733] Option to hide scrollbars system wide

2020-09-29 Thread Dhaval Patel
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220733

--- Comment #8 from Dhaval Patel  ---
This is unfortunate because I have been using macOS on my work laptop and they
have a really nice implementation where the scrollbars are visible only when
scrolling and they do not take up any space on any scrollable elements.

As you can see from the screenshot, users can have the previous behavior or
select this.

It would be a great feature that I am sure lots of people would find useful.

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[kde] [Bug 220733] Option to hide scrollbars system wide

2020-09-29 Thread Dhaval Patel
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220733

--- Comment #7 from Dhaval Patel  ---
Created attachment 132015
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=132015=edit
Scrollbar options on macOS

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[kde] [Bug 220733] Option to hide scrollbars system wide

2020-09-29 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220733

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||n...@kde.org
 Status|CONFIRMED   |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |INTENTIONAL

--- Comment #6 from Nate Graham  ---
I don't think we'll be doing this. In addition to their interactive properties
which are useful for non-expert users, scrollbars help you see where you are in
the view relative to the top and bottom. Without these kinds of visual clues,
navigating scrollable in views can be very disorienting, even for experts.

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