[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners?

[Jean-Baptiste Mardelle via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352851

Jean-Baptiste Mardelle  changed:

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  Latest Commit||http://commits.kde.org/kden
   ||live/82b8b316e7de4d3c5c8014
   ||7bd79d7925b59a5e36
 Resolution|--- |FIXED
 Status|CONFIRMED   |RESOLVED

--- Comment #12 from Jean-Baptiste Mardelle  ---
Git commit 82b8b316e7de4d3c5c80147bd79d7925b59a5e36 by Jean-Baptiste Mardelle.
Committed on 28/08/2016 at 21:02.
Pushed by mardelle into branch 'Applications/16.08'.

Make clip corners square (can be rounded through config option)
Patch by Harald Albrecht (The DiveO)
Review: 128782

M  +6-1src/kdenlivesettings.kcfg
M  +13   -2src/timeline/clipitem.cpp
M  +13   -2src/timeline/transition.cpp
M  +39   -1src/ui/configtimeline_ui.ui

http://commits.kde.org/kdenlive/82b8b316e7de4d3c5c80147bd79d7925b59a5e36

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[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners?

[Jesse via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #11 from Jesse  ---
Nice. :)

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[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners?

[Wegwerf via KDE Bugzilla]

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[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners?

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[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners?

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--- Comment #10 from Wegwerf  ---
Eh, no panic. There's something brewing ... or rather coding and compiling...
;)

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[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners?

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--- Comment #9 from Jesse  ---
@Steve, appreciate the comment.

1) No doubt, overloading the team isn't my desire in the least. And I agree,
everyone will have their opinion on little details; "polish" and "presence" can
look different to a variety of audiences. Being that I'm not a developer, nor
have an ounce of non-html code knowledge (or the time to code -- gratefully
busy in film), the best way I've felt I can contribute is end-user feedback and
bug reports. If the dev's consider this request and decide they don't want to
change it, they're always welcome to change the status to "WONTFIX", close it,
and call it good. :) It's their project; they have the authority to make it
however they want. I don't believe that approaching a request from this
position is detrimental to progress, yeah? I trust they have a vision, roadmap,
direction, etc. and allocate their time however they see best to reach their
goals.

2) I know the feeling when it gets down to the nuts and bolts of editing. For
sure. I've also always sympathized with the dev's often challenging level of
resources and high demands. One of my key desires when I offer suggestions is
that my feedback (coupled with information-dense research) would allow them to
create a product more users would be willing to contribute, financially, to.
More funding means more time to keep doing what they're passionate about. But
in order to reach a target audience, you have to market to them. Marketing,
among many things, requires an appearance that attracts the target market.
Hence, this feature-bug's existence. Without feedback (whether it seems
relevant or not) there's no way to no the most effective areas of improvement.

I believe there are many priorities when creating a product of any kind:
production, QA, and  marketing are just a few, yet all of these are relevant
priorities. How and when the devs choose to allocate their time to each area is
their business. They have contributors (hopefully) working on all of those
fronts. That's where the strength of the community can come in. Farid, another
contributor, has done an incredible job at raising community awareness and
attracting new users. If Kdenlive scores, for example, an interview on the
Linux Action Show or some other tech broadcast, I believe it would be a
well-worth endeavor to have someone from the team be interviewed for PR and
marketing purposes -- even if it does take some time away from development,
because I've seen the impact of marketing.

I hope this helps understand where I'm coming from, and why I believe that
feedback like this is important. :) The more knowledge a company has from their
target audience about their product, the better, IMHO.

Sidenote: I'm considering this the final poll results: 35 votes total, 23 for
straight corners, 12 for rounded. I think JB and the team know me well enough
by now to know they're always welcome to take the info' and feedback I provide
and do whatever the want with it. :)

Truly appreciate the feedback Steve. Cheers!

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[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners?

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--- Comment #8 from Steve  ---
-1
It's not that I dislike the idea. But...

1) I don't think we should overload the devs. I would rather they use their
free brain cells on bugs, crashes, and enhancements. We all know there is
plenty on their plate already. As soon as they do this, someone else is going
to conduct a poll telling the devs to reverse this 1960 style and make it
friendly again. What are they to do? Who are they to believe. Ultimately it
doesn't really matter which way it is.

2)  In my own projects, I have so many clips and I zoom in and out so much that
I don't have time to worry about them. So as you can see I do not have a horse
in this race, except for the sanity of the devs. Nothing is more demoralizing
to a dev than to get caught up in a losing battle with their users.

Jesse I respect your contributions through all of this time. You have really
helped, but please understand this is not a priority at the moment. When
everyone is saying kdenlive is superior to final cut pro, then we can elevate
the priority of this request. But remember, someone else is going to be just as
adamant that curved corners are far superior to boxy corners. Is this really
that important?

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[Jesse via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #7 from Jesse  ---
Poll update: 32 votes total, 22 for straight corners, 10 for rounded corners.

(On a side note, G+ polls are awesome for getting public opinion relatively
fast!)

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--- Comment #6 from Jesse  ---
Although it's been less than 48 hours, over 25 members of the Kdenlive G+
community voted on a poll that made for this, and, so far, 69% are for the
straight-edges and corners rather than rounded.

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[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners?

[Wegwerf via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #5 from Wegwerf  ---
+1

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--- Comment #4 from Jesse  ---
Created attachment 100720
  --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=100720=edit
example of rounded and sharp corners

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--- Comment #3 from Jesse  ---
Sweet, found the pic (see attached).

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--- Comment #2 from Jesse  ---
Dang, I guess I removed the graphic from my Dropbox. Sorry about that.

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[kdenlive] [Bug 352851] Make clips in timeline straight-edged instead of rounded corners? (graphic example included)

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Summary|Make clips in timeline  |Make clips in timeline
   |straight-edged instead of   |straight-edged instead of
   |rounded corners? (graphic   |rounded corners?
   |example included)   |

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--- Comment #1 from Jesse  ---
Wanted to re-open this as a consideration for the next release of Kdenlive
(17.04, I believe). The interface has received many click updates since the OP,
and I still think sharp-edged corners for the clips in the timeline would be a
nice professional polishing touch. Wanted to get the community's thoughts on
whether you agree?

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Jesse  changed:

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 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED
Summary|SUGGESTION: 15.09.0, make   |Make clips in timeline
   |clips in timeline   |straight-edged instead of
   |straight-edged instead of   |rounded corners? (graphic
   |rounded corners? (example   |example included)
   |included)   |
   Platform|Kubuntu Packages|Ubuntu Packages
 Resolution|WONTFIX |---

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