[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 Henning changed: What|Removed |Added Status|CONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INTENTIONAL --- Comment #22 from Henning --- So I think there may be some functionalities missing, not sure how important they are - it seems on Plasma6 there only is a single type of "loupe" kwin effect? Not 3 variants of moving the area anymore, which is not good. Especially the "push zoom area edges to move" is important as it doesnt cause nausea. - there may be a feature missing to split the screen in half, and have the normal display on the left, and the zoomed on the right -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #21 from Henning --- no they are not talking about this. Search for "zoom" in the plasma search and it will redirect you to KWin effects. Here you can select many different variants of partial screen magnification. KMag is an X11 application and fundamentally incompatible with Wayland. This is because it is a standalone app, that, like very other X11 app can capture any area of the screen. It scales this area itself, by just increasing its size. The correct way to do this on wayland is through the compositor, and this is what KWin effects do. They allow all and more what KMag could do. I think a blog post about this is really much needed. The KWin effects work well and I heard from a blind gamedev that they are the best on Linux. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #20 from Ahmed Faisal --- (In reply to Nicolas Fella from comment #19) > It was not ignored. It was pointed out that we already have a fully > functional screen magnification tool on Plasma Wayland, so accessibility use > cases are already covered No, it was not. To elaborate my point, I would like to point to two famous applications for desktop magnification. the Gnome's and Cinnamon's. Those two examples by name has two types of zooming: 1- Full screen zooming: the same one applied in KDE Plasma -that you mean by "got covered", and xFce, and Compiz and probably others that I forget about or did not know of. 2- Projected zooming: I don't know if that was the precise term for it, because I made that up. The projected zooming is found only in Gnome, Cinnamon, Kmag and Xmag. Where zoomed image is displayed on a side window (Kmag, Xmag and Windows Magnifier) or a part of screen, make that top half, bottom half, right half or left half. as seen in Gnome and Cinnamon. not counting W.Magnifier as this feature still very crappy after all those years. Conclusion: KDE Plasma gives full screen zooming. KMagnifier gives projected zooming. Meaning that you are able to see zoomed image and zoomed object in real size, so you can easily find your location in full view beside your zoomed view. you can try it yourself in Cinnamon by writing anything in full screen zooming (here you will realize the importance of zooming-follow-typing feature) than make that right half where you can see the whole page you write in left half and the exact line you edit in right half (if you have 2 monitors this can be your whole right monitor!). I hope I did put the matter the right, sufficient way. Greetings -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #19 from Nicolas Fella --- It was not ignored. It was pointed out that we already have a fully functional screen magnification tool on Plasma Wayland, so accessibility use cases are already covered -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 Ahmed Faisal changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ahmedfai...@gmail.com Status|REOPENED|CONFIRMED --- Comment #18 from Ahmed Faisal --- Ignored, as always. All accessibility related bugs / feature requests in this decade! "Importance normal". Ok, this maybe right for you. For us, visually impaired, it renders the whole system useless. Microsoft Windows is still on my system, not for Adobe software, not for office, not for games. It's a simple feature that wasn't by the way supported on their system last year(!!): the zooming in their magnifier wasn't following typing in editors, but now it follows. I reported that in Linux's best magnifying tool: the gnome zoom. The output? They just kept asking me for proofs and steps to reproduce (I've even been asked for a video screencast for a problem that exists in every gnome installation!!!). This is terribly off-topic. I know. But here in Kmagnifier I confirm this bug. It's in every kmag that runs on any Wayland desktop (e.g. hyprland) on any distro. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #17 from Rafael Linux User --- > still exists on plasma 6 currently Still doing nothing in Plasma 6 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 bugsie changed: What|Removed |Added CC||e...@waeltis.ch --- Comment #16 from bugsie --- *** Bug 485291 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 bugsie changed: What|Removed |Added CC||cristianfr...@gmail.com --- Comment #15 from bugsie --- *** Bug 468885 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 P changed: What|Removed |Added CC||pavila10...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 rosswzy...@outlook.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rosswzy...@outlook.com --- Comment #14 from rosswzy...@outlook.com --- (In reply to Henning from comment #13) > okay in this case i think it should be reopened. > > missing features currently: pixel perfect zooming and a hairline still exists on plasma 6 currently -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 Paragoumba changed: What|Removed |Added CC||paragou...@proton.me -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 Henning changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|INTENTIONAL |--- Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED --- Comment #13 from Henning --- okay in this case i think it should be reopened. missing features currently: pixel perfect zooming and a hairline -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #12 from Rafael Linux User --- (In reply to Jaak Ristioja from comment #11) > I have regularly used KWin to inspect individual pixels, e.g. for GUI and > web design, when things need to be pixel-perfect. The KWin zoom > functionality is insufficient for this because it blurs the pixels, making > it difficult to inspect individual pixels and their boundaries. I think KMag > also drew a hairline grid between the different pixels when zoomed in. I agree. In fact, this feature of Plasma even zoom all other connected monitors. I use Kmag with applications (like Java based or Wine launched executables) that shows all text 1/5 my desktop size, being impossible to read without magnifying locally. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #11 from Jaak Ristioja --- I have regularly used KWin to inspect individual pixels, e.g. for GUI and web design, when things need to be pixel-perfect. The KWin zoom functionality is insufficient for this because it blurs the pixels, making it difficult to inspect individual pixels and their boundaries. I think KMag also drew a hairline grid between the different pixels when zoomed in. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #10 from Nicolas Fella --- I'm still interested to know whether there are relevant use cases that KMag covers that the native KWin feature doesn't. Making the existing KMag code work on Wayland would likely be difficult at best, so the better path forward would most likely be to amend the KWin functionality instead -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 Henning changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |INTENTIONAL Status|CONFIRMED |RESOLVED --- Comment #9 from Henning --- Thanks for the heads up, I forgot about this setting! This is fixed for now then. KMag itself seems useless in this case, I will file a bug for Kinoite to remove it. The two zoom options are perfect (If I imagine what I would want from such an app) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 Nicolas Fella changed: What|Removed |Added CC||nicolas.fe...@gmx.de --- Comment #8 from Nicolas Fella --- What exactly do you use/need from KMag? There's a native Zoom functionality in KWin (Systems Settings > Desktop Effects > Accessibility > Zoom) that works on Wayland -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #7 from Henning --- Just wanted to comment that for accessibility having this not work is a dealbreaker for many people. If KMag was ever a project people took seriously, than until it works on Wayland at least X11 has to be supported on all Distros etc... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 --- Comment #6 from daf --- I'm still staying on X11 to use this accessibility tools, but it's not even listed on https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers . Has this tool been replaced by something else already on Wayland? If not, is accessibility not being considered when migrating to Wayland by default? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 daf changed: What|Removed |Added CC||amanita+kdeb...@mailbox.org --- Comment #5 from daf --- *** Bug 472437 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 daf changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rafael.linux.u...@gmail.com --- Comment #4 from daf --- *** Bug 472320 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 Jaak Ristioja changed: What|Removed |Added CC||j...@ristioja.ee -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kmag] [Bug 438912] No output from KMagnifier on Wayland
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=438912 skierpage changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|No output on Wayland|No output from KMagnifier ||on Wayland Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|REPORTED|CONFIRMED --- Comment #3 from skierpage --- KMagnifier (I'm using full word here otherwise you can't find this bug) is still broken under Frameworks 5.99.0, Qt 5.15.6 on Wayland. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
