[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-11 Thread Jack
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453640

--- Comment #21 from Jack  ---
You can start at https://invent.kde.org/office/kmymoney/-/wikis/home.  It is
not very difficult, but if you are not used to compiling from source, it can be
daunting just to get basic development environment set up, as you need
development versions of many packages since the regular packages exclude many
files needed for compiling.
If nothing else, it's a great way to learn more about software development. 
Note that if you do have questions or get stuck, feel free to ask for help -
but not in this bug.  See https://kmymoney.org/support.html for the various
support options available.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-11 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #20 from Pete  ---
(In reply to Jack from comment #19)
> it is not how it is run, it is how it is compiled, and I do not know of
> anywhere such information is collected.  I suspect you can download a
> distribution's package, unpack it, and run ldd on the kmymoney executable.
> and grep -i for qweb or qtq5web.  Otherwise, you would have to ask on a
> distro forum or mailing list.
> It is also not that hard to compile from source yourself, and then you have
> full control over all build options.

>It is also not that hard to compile from source yourself

Where can I find complete instructions on how to do that?

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-11 Thread Jack
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--- Comment #19 from Jack  ---
it is not how it is run, it is how it is compiled, and I do not know of
anywhere such information is collected.  I suspect you can download a
distribution's package, unpack it, and run ldd on the kmymoney executable. and
grep -i for qweb or qtq5web.  Otherwise, you would have to ask on a distro
forum or mailing list.
It is also not that hard to compile from source yourself, and then you have
full control over all build options.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-11 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #18 from Pete  ---
Which Linux distro is configured by default to properly run KMyMoney with
QWebEngine?

I am thinking of running these in a virtual machine.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #17 from Pete  ---
>ask the Ubuntu devs if they would consider building KMyMoney with QWebEngine 
>instead of QWegKit

Would it not be easier to enhance QWebkit?

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Jack
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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Jack
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--- Comment #16 from Jack  ---
I don't use Wayland, so I don't know if it has any equivalent of Xorg's
xbuffer.  I would try to look into that, at least as a temporary workaround.  I
would also ask the Ubuntu devs if they would consider building KMyMoney with
QWebEngine instead of QWegKit.  They may not agree, but it isn't going to
change if nobody asks.

As for why KMyMoney does not behave identically in all Views, different pages
are generated using different underlying libraries.  The layout approach for
each view was chosen by the developer when that view was originally created (or
during a major re-write.)  Given that master seems better than 5.1 right now
(at least for the Home Page) indicates we are moving in the right direction,
even if not fast enough for everyone.  Unfortunately, backporting the changes
in the Home Page from master to 5.1 is just not feasible.  There are also not
enough developer hours to address everything every user wants.  Their time is
being spent on what they think is most important to the overall progress of the
program.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #15 from Pete  ---
(In reply to Ian Neal from comment #14)
> (In reply to Pete from comment #5)
> > This problem also affects Fedora 36.
> 
> Out of interest what window manager are you using? KDE, Gnome or something
> else?
> I see the same issue using Gnome on Fedora 36.

Ubuntu 22.04 default version of Gnome, which is slightly different than Gnome
from Fedora (gnome.org)

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Ian Neal
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--- Comment #14 from Ian Neal  ---
(In reply to Pete from comment #5)
> This problem also affects Fedora 36.

Out of interest what window manager are you using? KDE, Gnome or something
else?
I see the same issue using Gnome on Fedora 36.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #13 from Pete  ---
(In reply to Jack from comment #12)
> Are you running Xorg?  If so, have you tried selecting with the mouse and
> then pasting from the xbuffer with a middle mouse click?  That's how I
> mostly do it, whether or not the full copy/paste works or not.
> 
> Also, copying DOES work - depending on how the program is compiled.  The
> KMyMoney team does not control how each distribution compiles the program. 
> Have you asked your distribution if they will consider compiling KMyMoney
> with QWebengine instead of QWebKit?  I'm sure the developers will look into
> whether the Appimage version can be compiles with QWebEngine, but, as I
> said, that may not be possible.

My distribution (Ubuntu 22.04) uses Wayland.  Xorg, through great efforts, has
been deprecated, as far as I know.

How do you explain comment 4?  Why does the copy/paste work there?  If it can
work there, why not everywhere?

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Jack
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--- Comment #12 from Jack  ---
Are you running Xorg?  If so, have you tried selecting with the mouse and then
pasting from the xbuffer with a middle mouse click?  That's how I mostly do it,
whether or not the full copy/paste works or not.

Also, copying DOES work - depending on how the program is compiled.  The
KMyMoney team does not control how each distribution compiles the program. 
Have you asked your distribution if they will consider compiling KMyMoney with
QWebengine instead of QWebKit?  I'm sure the developers will look into whether
the Appimage version can be compiles with QWebEngine, but, as I said, that may
not be possible.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #11 from Pete  ---
(In reply to Jack from comment #10)
> There is likely a deb file available for any distribution that uses that
> format for packages, but KDE does not provide any. 
> https://repology.org/project/kmymoney/versions lists available versions by
> distro, but does not say what format each uses.  Unfortunately, it appears
> distrowatch no longer covers kmymoney, as of last December.
> 
> The issue with creating appimages is that the KMyMoney team does not have
> full control over the system on which they are produced, and so do not
> always have full choice of alternate libraries (i.e., QWebEngine vs.
> QWebKit.)

A money management software from which it is no longer possible to copy/paste
is severely crippled.  For some, it may no longer be usable.

Can you please find a way, moving mountains if necessary, to make this basic
copy/paste functionality work.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Jack
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--- Comment #10 from Jack  ---
There is likely a deb file available for any distribution that uses that format
for packages, but KDE does not provide any. 
https://repology.org/project/kmymoney/versions lists available versions by
distro, but does not say what format each uses.  Unfortunately, it appears
distrowatch no longer covers kmymoney, as of last December.

The issue with creating appimages is that the KMyMoney team does not have full
control over the system on which they are produced, and so do not always have
full choice of alternate libraries (i.e., QWebEngine vs. QWebKit.)

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-06 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #9 from Pete  ---
On my recent Core i7 CPU, this appimage #385 loads as slow as molasses.  Is
this normal?  Is there a deb file?

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-05 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #8 from Pete  ---
(In reply to Jack from comment #7)
> Per Thomas' comment #1 it seems like you need to find a version compiled
> with QWebEngine instead of QWebKit, as long as you are running stable
> (5.1.x) instead of master.  I am aware that is far more easily said than
> done.  One way would be to compile your own version.  It might also be
> possible to find a "working" version from a different distribution, as long
> as it is reasonably easy for you to install in place of the Ubuntu version.
> 
> However, as a separate possibility, what graphics system are you using? 
> With Xorg, if you select any text, is is put in the X cut buffer (not sure
> if that's the proper term) and you can paste it with a middle mouse click
> (it will paste where the cursor it, so a single left click at the target
> before pasting is a good idea.

Since appimages are supposed to be stand alone products, why not "just" compile
a version with QWebEngine instead of QWebKit and call it #386?

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-05 Thread Jack
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--- Comment #7 from Jack  ---
Per Thomas' comment #1 it seems like you need to find a version compiled with
QWebEngine instead of QWebKit, as long as you are running stable (5.1.x)
instead of master.  I am aware that is far more easily said than done.  One way
would be to compile your own version.  It might also be possible to find a
"working" version from a different distribution, as long as it is reasonably
easy for you to install in place of the Ubuntu version.

However, as a separate possibility, what graphics system are you using?  With
Xorg, if you select any text, is is put in the X cut buffer (not sure if that's
the proper term) and you can paste it with a middle mouse click (it will paste
where the cursor it, so a single left click at the target before pasting is a
good idea.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2023-02-05 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #6 from Pete  ---
I just removed kmymoney and kmymoney-common packages using synaptic.

I then downloaded appimage #385.

The inability to copy still persists.

Do you have a fix?

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2022-07-10 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #5 from Pete  ---
This problem also affects Fedora 36.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2022-05-20 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #4 from Pete  ---
This discovery further complicates this bug:

In Reports/Investments/Investment Performance by Type, right clicking on a
selected area DOES work as expected and provides the user with the option to
Copy.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2022-05-12 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #3 from Pete  ---
Ubuntu is 22.04 LTS.

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2022-05-11 Thread Pete
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--- Comment #2 from Pete  ---
(In reply to Thomas Baumgart from comment #1)
> I am unable to duplicate the behavior with a native application installed
> but see the problem using the latest stable AppImage. The latest master
> AppImage does not have the problem either. The stable branch is either using
> QWebEngine or QWebKit for the display of the homepage whereas master is
> using the QTextBrowser. I am using Qt 5.12.7 when building, the AppImage is
> based on Qt 5.15.2. Looks like my local version is using QWebEngine and the
> AppImage is build with QWebKit. What your version is based on? I expect the
> cause to be somewhere in that area. Just too many options.

In synaptic, qt packages are all 5.15.3

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[kmymoney] [Bug 453640] Home page Copy an amount no longer works

2022-05-11 Thread Thomas Baumgart
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--- Comment #1 from Thomas Baumgart  ---
I am unable to duplicate the behavior with a native application installed but
see the problem using the latest stable AppImage. The latest master AppImage
does not have the problem either. The stable branch is either using QWebEngine
or QWebKit for the display of the homepage whereas master is using the
QTextBrowser. I am using Qt 5.12.7 when building, the AppImage is based on Qt
5.15.2. Looks like my local version is using QWebEngine and the AppImage is
build with QWebKit. What your version is based on? I expect the cause to be
somewhere in that area. Just too many options.

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