[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #16 from Ian Wadham --- Created attachment 130721 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=130721=edit Image of winnability of the saved game - att. 130719 This is an image of the same game as in image 130720, but about 20 moves later, after the 5 of Diamonds on the right has been played. The game is now designated as solvable, contradicting what the Solver said before. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #15 from Ian Wadham --- Created attachment 130720 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=130720=edit Image of cards in the saved game - att. 130719 In this image, the 4 of Diamonds has just been played to a Foundation pile. There are now two 5s of Diamonds that can be played next, but the Solver and Autodrop always choose the one on the left (as shown in the highlighting of the Hint). This leads to a "no win" situation. If the 5 of Diamonds on the right is played, winnability becomes undetermined, but about 20 moves later the Solver finds that the game is winnable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #14 from Ian Wadham --- Created attachment 130719 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=130719=edit False report of "Game cannot be won" Saved KPatience game - can be used as a test case for this bug (290647). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 Ian Wadham changed: What|Removed |Added Status|CONFIRMED |ASSIGNED Assignee|co...@kde.org |iandw...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #13 from Ian Wadham --- I know how to fix this problem --- patches are being prepared. Actually there are two problems. The first is where the Forty & Eight solver fails to report both cards as possible moves when there are two cards of the same suit and rank that can "go out" onto a Foundation pile. The second is that, even if both cards are reported to the generic solver and Hint action, Autodrop plays the first one in the list onto the Foundation, thus making the second card unplayable. That card might be a winner and the first card might be a loser or either card might at least be a better or preferred move, which would improve your chances of winning. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 Ian Wadham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||saur...@gmail.com --- Comment #12 from Ian Wadham --- *** Bug 374440 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 Ian Wadham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ckju...@gmail.com --- Comment #11 from Ian Wadham --- *** Bug 351989 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #10 from Duncan Kinnear --- Created attachment 116273 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=116273=edit Illegal 2-card move shown in the highlighted hints Illegal 2-card move shown in the highlighted hints -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #9 from Duncan Kinnear --- Created attachment 116272 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=116272=edit Another saved game with illegal 2-card hint Another day, another game, same fault. :-) I will also attach the screenshot showing the illegal move hint -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #8 from Duncan Kinnear --- Created attachment 116253 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=116253=edit Screenshot showing the illegal move highlighted in the Hints -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #7 from Duncan Kinnear --- Created attachment 116252 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=116252=edit Saved game at the point where the solver 'cheated' I have attached a saved game file for "Forty & Eight" at the point that the Solver said it was winnable, and the next move that the demo solver uses is illegal (2-card transfer). I will attach screenshot before this move showing the hints. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 Andrew Crouthamel changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO |--- CC||andrew.crouthamel@kdemail.n ||et Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|NEEDSINFO |CONFIRMED --- Comment #6 from Andrew Crouthamel --- Thanks for the update! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 Ian Wadham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||iandw...@gmail.com --- Comment #5 from Ian Wadham --- Like Duncan, I play Forty and Eight a lot... :-) ...and get this same bug. FWIW the solver sometimes also gives false positives re winning. I think this happens when its "winning" sequence includes an illegal move. I can overcome that by using Undo and then one or two moves of Demo to get past the illegal move and go on to win... ;-) i.e. Demo permits the same illegal move as solver. IIRC the illegal move is to move two cards that are not consecutive, although (I seem to remember) the two cards are in the same suit. I doubt now if I shall ever get around to having a go at fixing these bugs, but if you are interested, Parker, I could try and capture more details next time it happens. It's nice to see you around again... :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 --- Comment #4 from Duncan Kinnear --- Hi there, I play this game (version 3.6) almost every day, and it quite often reports "This game cannot be won" and I never trust it, and occasionally it's wrong and I can win it. I will try saving each game of "Forty & Eight" I play and if this scenario comes up I'll attach the saved game. It's certainly not a biggie. :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[kpat] [Bug 290647] Forty & Eight solver falsely reports "Game cannot be won"
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290647 Andrew Crouthamel changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REPORTED|NEEDSINFO Resolution|--- |WAITINGFORINFO --- Comment #3 from Andrew Crouthamel --- Dear Bug Submitter, This bug has been stagnant for a long time. Could you help us out and re-test if the bug is valid in the latest version? I am setting the status to NEEDSINFO pending your response, please change the Status back to REPORTED when you respond. Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
