[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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--- Comment #47 from reinhard.hennig  
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The tax authority of lower saxonay is actually using KDE3.5 on 12.000 client
computers and considers to switch to KDE5. In early years we used CDE and
virtual desktops are quite popular.
As the new plama5-workspace doesn´t provide different desktop-background images
per virtual workspace as offerd in KDE4, the decision to migrate to plasma5
will be quite easy: Use KDE3.5 as far as offered on Leap 42.2 or switch to
trinity.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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--- Comment #46 from mc  ---
pls delete comment 45 - got put in accidentally while I was learning to use
this.  it is irrelevant.

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--- Comment #45 from mc  ---
I may have a lponger memory than most, or may just be older,
but we had the same issue in going form the beautiful kde3 to the initially
non-functional kde4:
devs also then attempted to force users to use activities and did not have
different wallpapers / desktop.

So I did not upgrade from Kubuntu 8.04 until 12.04, when kde4 finally reached
feature parity with kde3.

So now I am on kubuntu 14.04, and obviously will be staying with it at least to
end of life and possibly longer.

I use 3 screens, 6 virtual desktops (obviously of 3 screens earch) and on three
of the virtual desktops I have a dual screen virtual machine, each with 4
virtual desktops.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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--- Comment #44 from Danny Tamez  ---
It's being worked on!  See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143#c167

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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--- Comment #43 from Colin Faber  ---
So far, I really like Plasma 5, however the wallpaper issue is disappointing. I
utilize multiple activities with multiple desktops to manage huge numbers of
konsole sessions, browsers, etc. and would rely on the different wallpapers as
an indicator as to which I'm on for what. 

Additionally having the single wallpaper, is well, boring. Please reconsider
re-adding this feature, or provide some altnerative to it.

Could a full screen widget with image background control provide a work around
here? I've noticed that I can't seem to find widgets per activity / wigets per
page.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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--- Comment #42 from Vincent Petry  ---
Regarding wallpapers, I get that there might be architectural limitations for
allowing to set a wallpaper per virtual desktop.

How about this alternative solution: make it possible to set a huge wallpaper
that covers the background behind virtual desktops. Basically, there is only a
single image to be configured, and that image is then panned when switching
virtual desktops.

The wallpaper option could be called "stretch across all virtual desktops".

Would that be easier to implement ?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

[scotter59 via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #41 from scotter59  ---
Thank you guys, do like the KDE interface.  :)

Scott M

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Nikola Schnelle via KDE Bugzilla <
bugzilla_nore...@kde.org> wrote:

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343246
>
> --- Comment #40 from Nikola Schnelle  ---
> (In reply to scotter59 from comment #39)
> > Just wish to add my dissatisfaction with the decision to prevent unique
> > wallpapers on Virtual Desktops.
> >
> > I have been using KDE 4 up to this point, today I upgraded my machine,
> > stronger better faster and brought down the latest Mine with KDE 5.  Was
> > setting up my new world which included a different wallpaper, it was the
> > envy of my workplace.  We work directly with Microsoft and I would rub
> their
> > faces in our cool GUI environment.  The cube, the different images the
> > clarity made things pop.  So as I was configuring I spent significant
> time
> > trying to find the option.
> >
> > The "activities" are an interesting feature but usually I start off my
> day
> > clean and work across the Virtual Desktops.   If I may suggest maybe
> > disabling multiple activities with a warning, if one chooses different
> > wallpaper on VD's and vice versa.   On KDE 4 I did not have any issues
> with
> > this, over the years that I used it.
> >
> > Eh, see the WONTFIX resolution, not a good choice.
> > Otherwise thanks guys for a great UI.
>
> This feature is coming back.
> This is main bug report (and read this comment):
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143#c167
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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

[Nikola Schnelle via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #40 from Nikola Schnelle  ---
(In reply to scotter59 from comment #39)
> Just wish to add my dissatisfaction with the decision to prevent unique
> wallpapers on Virtual Desktops.  
> 
> I have been using KDE 4 up to this point, today I upgraded my machine,
> stronger better faster and brought down the latest Mine with KDE 5.  Was
> setting up my new world which included a different wallpaper, it was the
> envy of my workplace.  We work directly with Microsoft and I would rub their
> faces in our cool GUI environment.  The cube, the different images the
> clarity made things pop.  So as I was configuring I spent significant time
> trying to find the option.
> 
> The "activities" are an interesting feature but usually I start off my day
> clean and work across the Virtual Desktops.   If I may suggest maybe
> disabling multiple activities with a warning, if one chooses different
> wallpaper on VD's and vice versa.   On KDE 4 I did not have any issues with
> this, over the years that I used it.
> 
> Eh, see the WONTFIX resolution, not a good choice.
> Otherwise thanks guys for a great UI.

This feature is coming back.
This is main bug report (and read this comment):
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143#c167

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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--- Comment #39 from scotter59  ---
Just wish to add my dissatisfaction with the decision to prevent unique
wallpapers on Virtual Desktops.  

I have been using KDE 4 up to this point, today I upgraded my machine, stronger
better faster and brought down the latest Mine with KDE 5.  Was setting up my
new world which included a different wallpaper, it was the envy of my
workplace.  We work directly with Microsoft and I would rub their faces in our
cool GUI environment.  The cube, the different images the clarity made things
pop.  So as I was configuring I spent significant time trying to find the
option.

The "activities" are an interesting feature but usually I start off my day
clean and work across the Virtual Desktops.   If I may suggest maybe disabling
multiple activities with a warning, if one chooses different wallpaper on VD's
and vice versa.   On KDE 4 I did not have any issues with this, over the years
that I used it.

Eh, see the WONTFIX resolution, not a good choice.
Otherwise thanks guys for a great UI.

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--- Comment #38 from tuxfus...@gmail.com ---
The amount of people wanting this feature back is a perfect example of the
state of KDE. Developers ignore the end user. "I'm the developer, I know best".
http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html

"Activities were ment to do that better.." People hate activities! You force
something on peoples brains no one gets -> kill THAT. I can easily be convinced
of "feature B does that better, use it". I used activites for 60 seconds found
the first bug ( You can't ORDER them, seriously ?) of this so called "way more
refined way to do things" 

Linux based desktops used to openly boast ( me too!) of the super simple and
cool system of virtual desktops. You could easily "impress" people of a Linux
desktop with that feature. Windows for example neglected that completely. Now,
in the same year that MS finally copies that feature in W10, you wizards of KDE
take the first shot at it. Yes, of course it's still there. But read closely
above, people will not switch to plasma 5 for simple stuff like this. Going
back to 4 again ( this is the third time for me ...) until you guys figure out
an answer to the question "why do we develop software in the first place"

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--- Comment #37 from andydecle...@gmail.com ---
Can someone please either change this to REOPENED or RESOLVED DUPLICATE
(341143) ?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 343246] plasma 5 doesn't allow different wallpapers and widgets for each virtual desktop

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--- Comment #36 from John Andersen  ---
(In reply to Marco Martin from comment #1)
> was a very problematic feature that cause a lot of bugs.
> it was removed as an explicit choice (and due to architectural changes can't
> really get back)
> for this behavior, there are activities

The problematic claim was made way back in KDE4, and they said it couldn't
possibly be returned, and then, magically this capability returned.  So you can
port this code directly out of 4.14.  

As you've been advised, activities are no substitute, and historically it is
Activities that are the cause of all the bug reports, not multiple wall papers.

Please return multiple wall papers, because the community wants them.

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