[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Oleg Zech]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

--- Comment #18 from Oleg Zech  ---
Gnomification "we know better what users needs" along with iphonesation "you
are using wrong widget" still at full swing?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Alex]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

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--- Comment #17 from Alex  ---
This feature alone makes me not bother at all trying to place widgets where I
want them on my desktop, it does nothing more than get in my way. Surely the
current grid system is not something that developers think actually works well
for users; it's plainly obvious from this thread (and others) that it doesn't.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Oleg Zech]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

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--- Comment #16 from Oleg Zech  ---
OK finally after years of waiting I finally found a workaround: switched to
Mate desktop and you all have no idea how liberating experience it is.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[sac]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

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--- Comment #15 from sac  ---
The workaround from the reddit thread is no longer working:

>Edit 
>/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/main.qml, 
>find function updateGridSize (at line ~100) and change 
>LayoutManager.cellSize.width and height to 1.

Any other workaround or idea how to disable Grid?

BTW: in 2012 there was an option in Kubuntu (Right click on a empty area of the
Desktop > Default Desktop Settings > View. Change "Layout" to "Grid Desktop"),
but it's no longer available in QML.

The spacing was reduced already and is tracked here:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379432 , including a workaround from me to
further reduce it.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Rod J]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

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Version|5.8.4   |5.12.5

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Pep]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

--- Comment #12 from Pep  ---
my only progress with the desktop dashboard was discover that it definitely
dislike svg icons. They kept disappearing randomly so i started substituting
them with png images and the desktop is a little more peacefu: sometimes it
remain the same even two or three reboots before "reordering" my icons as the
Big Programmer decided for me...

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Grendel]

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--- Comment #11 from Grendel  ---
The same problem here. Grid spacing for icons is much too big. I usually
arrange icons at the lower end of my desktop. They either jump back to a
position which is too high, or the grid system positions them so low that a
scrollbar(!!) appears on the right side of my desktop. No matter what, it's
just plain ugly.

The problem here: this not confirmed to be a bug because this behaviour is
intentional. -- Broken by design --

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Mike]

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--- Comment #10 from Mike  ---
I also have been waiting to have this "fixed" since I first tried Plasma 5.
Having a grid is nice because you're correct that aligning widgets in KDE 4 was
a pain, but if there is a grid being able to turn it off is even more
important!

There are widgets I really want to be in the top right corner of my screen,
flush against the top and right, and then I'd like other widgets flush to the
bottom of that one, also flush against the right edge of the screen EVEN if
that means the left is ragged!

Rather than a grid I'd prefer to multi-select widgets and right click w/
alignment options (right, left, top, bottom), but as long as there is some way
to get them positioned on the screen where I want them, that's what counts.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Rod J]

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Pep]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

--- Comment #9 from Pep  ---
More than a year later, icons still lock on a grid and keep bouncing randomly
in the "ordered" matrix the programmers decided is good for us.
Seems that it's easier to screw up a good system than to fix a nasty bug. 
That's the way "creative" programmers disappear from informatics ecosystem.
What a pity, KDE was a good system once ago.

Did you hear that Canonical is going back to Gnome?

Time to migrate to gnome, even the last fans of KDE?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Rod J]

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--- Comment #8 from Rod J  ---
This bug certainly has my vote. I've been fighting with the desktop layout in
Plasma 5 for a while trying to get three plasma widgets to line up and no
matter what I do with resizing or manoeuvring them can I get them to look
right. It's very frustrating if you have an eye for detail and aesthetics.

In my current everyday KDE 4 system (Kubuntu 14.04) it's no problem at all to
get them to line up nicely!  

Anybody get the feeling KDE is going backwards rapidly? On the surface Plasma 5
looks quite good, but then you try and configure it and the wheels quickly fall
off.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

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christian.her...@astro.su.se changed:

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--- Comment #7 from christian.her...@astro.su.se ---
Version bump. Still relevant. Still unconfirmed.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

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--- Comment #6 from invulad...@gmail.com ---
Please please please, make this more flexible. I am forced to leave openSUSE
13.2 due to end of the support cycle, the openSUSE Leap with KDE5 looks
horrific in comparison. I need two screens for the same amount of info I used
to have on 1 screen . . . HELP!

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Nick Stefanov via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

--- Comment #5 from Nick Stefanov  ---
Ok, let it be the grid but spaces between items are CRAZY! You can place
another item between two items. Lots of lost space...

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Pep via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #4 from Pep  ---
I am in the "please free icons" group, and consider the option-less ordering a
serious bug:

Uniformity hide things, and irregular position offers a clue on where "is my
icon" without necessity to scan a matrix; I use the "out of alignment" as a
signal for position of icons and it make me operate on the desktop a lot
faster. Goes without mentioning that icons too often randomly bouncing by
themselves to a grid, destroying my carefully choosed position, is hard to be
considered a "feature". and anyway a feature i cannot deactivate is not a
feature, is a constriction. 

I looked regularly for an update fixing the bug, and only now I founded where
to post my complain (rant). I am happy to learn that if it cannot be fixed, i
can go back to kde4.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[Nick Stefanov via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

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--- Comment #3 from Nick Stefanov  ---
It would be nice to have option to enable or disable grid as it was in KDE 4.
Lack of such feature is a bad idea. This is the only reason that prevents me to
migrate to Plasma 5 and I know a lot of other people with the same problem.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[David Edmundson via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358418

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--- Comment #1 from David Edmundson  ---
What's the weather plasmoid you're using in the first shot?

Another approach on this is we make sure plasmoids align to the grid properly.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 358418] Alignment of widgets to grid can prevent optimal sizes and alignments for some widgets.

[via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #2 from cher...@aip.de ---
Weather widget:

http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Weather+Widget?content=169572

The behaviour  in the shot is reproducible with other widgets, e.g.  colloquial
clock .

Although a perfect grid alignment would be nice, personally I would prefer an
option for pixel perfect placement.

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