[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-12-21 Thread Niccolò Venerandi
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

--- Comment #18 from Niccolò Venerandi  ---
I'll definitively _not_ accept a button to disable the panel's shadow, sorry
:-)

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[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-12-20 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

--- Comment #17 from Nate Graham  ---
At the moment the shadow is part of the intended design of the Breeze theme. As
Niccolò mentioned, if you don't like it, you're welcome to use a different
theme, or to fork the Breeze theme to remove the shadow.

Of your proposed alternatives, I like the 1px border idea as this could
actually increase consistency with other Breeze-window-decoration-themed
windows, which also have both a border and a shadow.

If you'd like to pursue that option, I'd recommend submitting a new bug report
about it.

I'd also grudgingly accept a new panel-specific option to disable the shadow,
seeing as how we already have other purely visual options to toggle 
translucency and floatingness. But I'll be a grumpy old man and grouse about it
a bit. :)

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[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-12-19 Thread Adam Fontenot
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

--- Comment #16 from Adam Fontenot  ---
> the inability to tell where a window ended and the panel began

This is an extremely limited issue though, it only happens in rare
circumstances. In particular it doesn't affect the window decoration itself so
long as the colors are set correctly (as I think Breeze does).

If there is an accessibility issue to address, I think it should be addressed
with a solution that implements good visual design choices, not relying on the
ugly effect of panels casting a shadow on adjacent windows. I can think of a
number of (mostly complementary) options:

1. Make panels have a different color than the Breeze theme background color
for windows. (This should already be true by default, IIRC?)
2. Give panels a 1 px border on the outside edge. (This exact solution was used
to solve the "distinguishing between windows" accessibility problem.)
3. Snap windows the  (from the window decorations) away
from the panel, instead of directly adjacent to the panel, so the
already-existing outline would serve to help distinguish between the window and
the panel.
4. Use a slight gradient by default on the panel background.

Or we could go with a workaround like:

5. Make this toggleable, just like the outline strength feature was made
toggleable.

Personally I like the idea of (3) because it reuses a window-distinguishing
feature we already have. I think it would probably look nice, although I
haven't made a mockup.

Can we discuss options that would result in better visual design, rather than
closing this because of one relatively rare issue?

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[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-12-10 Thread Niccolò Venerandi
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

Niccolò Venerandi  changed:

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--- Comment #15 from Niccolò Venerandi  ---
Even just talking about shadow strength for panels, I think Nate words still
apply:

> In the end this is why we have Plasma themes: so people can self satisfy if 
> the default aesthetics don't suit their tastes.
> I get that this can be frustrating when there's *just one thing* you'd like 
> to change but everything else is fine. However that *just one thing* differs 
> so widely from person to person that we can't really add enough options to 
> satisfy everyone without making the Breeze theme a meta-theme that would horn 
> in on many other 3rd-party themes' reasons for existing.

It's quite easy to just change the shadow strength in the theme, and you can
add a fallback to the Breeze theme so that only one file is changed.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-12-09 Thread bugzilla_noreply
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

--- Comment #14 from jaku...@protonmail.com ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #13)
> From bug 478096, we encountered a case where the lack of a panel shadow
> caused a real usability issue: the inability to tell where a window ended
> and the panel began. So I think we have to keep the shadow, sorry.

What about configurable shadow strength like is the case with window
decorations(it doesn't influence the panel)?
The shadow is much more noticeable(too strong) for use with different panel
positions.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-12-08 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

Nate Graham  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |INTENTIONAL
 Status|CONFIRMED   |RESOLVED

--- Comment #13 from Nate Graham  ---
>From bug 478096, we encountered a case where the lack of a panel shadow caused
a real usability issue: the inability to tell where a window ended and the
panel began. So I think we have to keep the shadow, sorry.

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[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-12-05 Thread VesperLlama
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

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[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-08-01 Thread Noah Davis
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

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--- Comment #12 from Noah Davis  ---
*** Bug 472887 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[plasmashell] [Bug 427668] If the panel has a shadow, make it not appear over windows, just the desktop

2023-05-17 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427668

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Panel has a shadow which|If the panel has a shadow,
   |appears on top of maximized |make it not appear over
   |windows which looks a   |windows, just the desktop
   |little odd especially in|
   |the case of a top panel and |
   |light titlebar  |
   Severity|minor   |wishlist
  Component|Theme - Breeze  |Panel
 CC||niccolo.venera...@gmail.com

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