[plasmashell] [Bug 473289] Desktop widgets' background aren't transparent in Plasma 6
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473289 --- Comment #3 from Marco Martin --- I don't agree with having svgs made transparent programmatically. how much is transparent and what elements are should always be artist decision. for breeze itself would work, because the background is a featureless rounded rectangle but there are thousands of themes on the store that we promise to still support. there might be a border the author doesn't want transparent, or on the contrary a more opaque inner zone with a very translucent border around, it's a theme engine with some (even if not much) flexibility which shouldn't make particular assumptions. Now, i wouldn't be particularly opposed on dropping either translucent or solid so either normal->solid, then translucent overrides or normal->translucent with solid overrides. this would drop some elements of existing themes but they would continue to work okay The most retrocompatible of the two would be normal->translucent with solid overrides. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 473289] Desktop widgets' background aren't transparent in Plasma 6
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473289 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|REPORTED|CONFIRMED --- Comment #2 from Nate Graham --- Thanks for investigating! Personally I believe that transparency without blur never makes sense, as readability can become quite bad. In my ideal world, the Background Contrast effect disappears and gets rolled into the Blur effect, if needed. Then when the Blur effect is on, Plasma window/dialog backgrounds becomes slightly transparent to accommodate that blur, and when the Blur effect is off, all that stuff becomes completely opaque. Ideally this opacity could be done programmatically, rather than swapping out dedicated sets of opaque or transparent SVGs. So I think I'm agreeing with you. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[plasmashell] [Bug 473289] Desktop widgets' background aren't transparent in Plasma 6
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473289 veggero changed: What|Removed |Added CC||niccolo.venera...@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from veggero --- I investigated this bug. Ultimately the issue is that the Plasma is supposed to be using the "translucent/" plasma theme directory when Contrast Effect is enabled, and yet it isn't. This was fiddly in Plasma 5 already; in Wayland, we could only check for Contrast Effect upon startup, meaning that if the user changed the setting, the plasma theme would not be updated accordingly. In X11 there is an EffectWatcher that does update the value if the user changes it. In Plasma 6, the EffectWatcher doesn't work for me; I wasn't able to find out why. However the bigger issue is that it looks like KWindowSystem is not meant to be able to detect effects being on/off anymore (maybe since effects are now plugin?). This means that we are unable to check for Contrast Effect even on startup. If we want to preserve the functionality from Plasma 5 as is, I need to figure out a new way for p-f to check when Contrast Effect is on/off. I'm also wondering whether we want to preserve this distinction at all, instead of having a single plasma theme for both Contrast Effect enabled/disabled. This would simplify the code significantly and make it easier to maintain the Plasma Theme. The idea was (iirc) that when Contrast Effect is off the transparent elements (e.g. panel) need to be a bit more opaque than usual, to preserve readability. However, we *already* offer the same level of transparency in both SVGs (normal one, and translucent/ one, both for panel and for dialogs). Thus, I would suggest to drop translucent/ entirely. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
