[systemsettings] [Bug 433404] double click setting ignored

2021-02-23 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433404

--- Comment #5 from Nate Graham  ---
That's a reasonable complaint.

However, it's awfully hard to fix bugs when people complain that they got used
to the bugs over time! Either we can fix bugs, or we can't. We also get
complaints every time anything visual changes, or anytime we change any default
settings, but it's not really reasonable to expect the whole system to be
frozen in amber forever.

However being annoyed when something changes (even if it was for an ostensibly
good reason) is still reasonable, so you might be interested in participating
in this discussion: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/issues/11

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[systemsettings] [Bug 433404] double click setting ignored

2021-02-22 Thread Martin Koller
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433404

--- Comment #4 from Martin Koller  ---
I absolutely understand the reasoning.
Although I still dislike the continuous change in behavior (and arrangement) of
things in KDE which I got used to the last 10, 20 or so years.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 433404] double click setting ignored

2021-02-22 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433404

--- Comment #3 from Nate Graham  ---
The behavior is totally consistent, but it's consistent with the actual reason
for double-click to exist.

The entire reason for double-click to exist is because certain things have a
state where they can be selected, and in that state, you can perform
non-opening actions on them. For such items, some people find it useful to
enter that selected state with one click, so they can perform actions on the
item without having to use a context menu. This is literally the only reason
for anything to ever be double-clickable.

Files and folders can be double-clickable because they have a state where they
can be selected, in which you can perform rename actions, copy actions, delete
actions, etc. Therefore it makes sense to offer an option for them to open on a
double-click, because some people prefer for the single-click action to be
"select this item" not "open this item."

These icons here in System Settings have no selection state in which it is
possible to perform any actions. You can't copy them. You can't email them to
someone else. You can't delete them. The only thing you can do with them is
open them. You can't rename them. The only thing you can do with them is open
them. There is only one action they perform.

What do you call a clickable UI element has exactly one action and only one
action that it can perform when interacted with? A button. And buttons never
have to be double-clicked to make them perform their action. They always
perform their action on the first click, even when you use the systemwide
double-click setting.

System Settings' icon view is a grid of buttons. The buttons may not look like
buttons, but that's not unusual; a ToolButton is a button that doesn't look
like a button. We use non-buttonlike buttons all over the place throughout KDE
software. This is personally not my favorite thing in the world, and if I had
my way, all buttons would have a visibly buttonlike appearance.

Alas, this is not the majority view, so I accept it. And because of that,
System Settings' Icon View is a grid of non-buttonlike buttons. So they open
their KCMs on a single-click, just like all other buttons to.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 433404] double click setting ignored

2021-02-22 Thread Martin Koller
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433404

--- Comment #2 from Martin Koller  ---
Even if intentional, from a users point of view, this is totally inconsistent.
When I use konqi or systemsettings, I do not differentiate. You know, muscle
memory, therefore double click is my natural action.
And an icon view is not a set of buttons. A PushButton has a different look and
feel. When I recogize a button by its look, it would be understandable, but
here it is not.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 433404] double click setting ignored

2021-02-22 Thread Nate Graham
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433404

Nate Graham  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||n...@kde.org
 Status|REPORTED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |INTENTIONAL

--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham  ---
This was intentional, because System Settings' Icon View is more akin to a grid
of buttons (which always perform an action on single-click) than a file view
where there are multiple actions you can perform on a selected icon (which is
the entire point of double-click).

See Bug 377309.

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