Re: FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-08 Thread David Johnson
On Monday 07 July 2008 11:51:21 am Alexander Neundorf wrote:
 I think we can fix this for KDE 4.2 with cmake 2.6.
 What do we do in the meantime ?
 We could add ${KDE4_KDECORE_LIBRARY} (which comes with the full path and
 features the same name as the one from KDE3) as a direct dependency for all
 libs from kdelibs (in FindKDE4Internal.cmake), so this conflict would be
 always detected.
 Does that make sense ?

I made a patch that applies this, and added it to the FreeBSd port. So far it 
is working. I'll do some more builds tomorrow.

Thank you,

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Re: FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-07 Thread David Johnson
On Sunday 06 July 2008 07:45:46 pm Thiago Macieira wrote:
 David Johnson wrote:
 target_link_libraries(kfind  ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS} )
 
 This results in the the following library
 locations: -L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/kde4/lib
 
 However, changing that line to add a dependency:
 
 target_link_libraries(kfind ${KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS}  ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS}
  )

 Those libraries link directly to kdeui anyways, so the change is harmless.
 It can easily be done.

But can anyone tell me how those library lists get generated? It seems very 
arbitrary and random. I would be much more comfortable writing these patches 
if I knew what was happening under the surface.

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Re: FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-07 Thread Thiago Macieira
David Johnson wrote:
On Sunday 06 July 2008 07:45:46 pm Thiago Macieira wrote:
 David Johnson wrote:
 target_link_libraries(kfind  ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS} )
 
 This results in the the following library
 locations: -L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/local/lib
  -L/usr/local/kde4/lib
 
 However, changing that line to add a dependency:
 
 target_link_libraries(kfind ${KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS}
   ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS} )

 Those libraries link directly to kdeui anyways, so the change is
 harmless. It can easily be done.

But can anyone tell me how those library lists get generated? It seems
 very arbitrary and random. I would be much more comfortable writing
 these patches if I knew what was happening under the surface.

It wasn't generated. It was written by hand like above.

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Re: FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-07 Thread David Faure
On Monday 07 July 2008, Thiago Macieira wrote:
 David Johnson wrote:
 On Sunday 06 July 2008 07:45:46 pm Thiago Macieira wrote:
  David Johnson wrote:
  target_link_libraries(kfind  ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS} )
  
  This results in the the following library
  locations: -L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/local/lib
   -L/usr/local/kde4/lib
  
  However, changing that line to add a dependency:
  
  target_link_libraries(kfind ${KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS}
    ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS} )
 
  Those libraries link directly to kdeui anyways, so the change is
  harmless. It can easily be done.
 
 But can anyone tell me how those library lists get generated? It seems
  very arbitrary and random. I would be much more comfortable writing
  these patches if I knew what was happening under the surface.
 
 It wasn't generated. It was written by hand like above.

Thiago, I think you're not understanding David Johnson's question :)
The -L parameters are definitely generated, by cmake.
The question is how. And the answer is complex AFAIK, and depends on the cmake 
version.

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Re: FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-07 Thread Brad King
David Faure wrote:
 The -L parameters are definitely generated, by cmake.
 The question is how. And the answer is complex AFAIK, and depends on the 
 cmake version.

In CMake 2.4 the set of -L paths come from arguments to the
link_directories() command and the locations of libraries given to
target_link_libraries() by full path.  In CMake 2.6 the latter case is
usually handled just by passing the full path to the library file
directly to the linker with no searching, but there are still some cases
where it behaves similarly to 2.4.

The input to the ordering algorithm is the original list of
user-specified library search paths (given to link_directories) plus
some set of library file full paths.  The output is an ordered linker
search path.  We try to preserve the original order of user-specified
directories, but the main rule is that the order is such that the
libraries whose full paths are known will be found first if the linker
searches for them with a -lfoo option.  This guarantees that when a
library is specified by full path that the copy of the library is
favored over any other copy of the library at another place in the
linker search path.

CMake actually inspects all the linker search path locations to look for
possibly conflicting files and builds a constraint graph.  A topological
sort on the resulting constraint graph produces the order.  The order
among an unconstrained group of paths is that in the original
user-specified order.  This is done much more formally in CMake 2.6 than
in 2.4.

-Brad
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Re: FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-07 Thread David Johnson
On Monday 07 July 2008 05:21:48 am Thiago Macieira wrote:
 But can anyone tell me how those library lists get generated? It seems
  very arbitrary and random. I would be much more comfortable writing
  these patches if I knew what was happening under the surface.

 It wasn't generated. It was written by hand like above.

I must learn to write English better. What I meant was, how does *cmake* 
generate the list of libraries sent to the linker, and what determines their 
order? I've looked at FindKDE4Internal.cmake, but I don't fully understand 
it.

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Re: FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-07 Thread David Johnson
On Monday 07 July 2008 08:00:10 am David Faure wrote:
 Thiago, I think you're not understanding David Johnson's question :)
 The -L parameters are definitely generated, by cmake.
 The question is how. And the answer is complex AFAIK, and depends on the
 cmake version.

Thanks. And thanks to Brad King for his detailed explanation. The upshot is 
that I can't guarantee the order of search paths, as they may change through 
a variety of causes.

I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and give KDE3 its own hierarchy. As 
painful as that is, it will upset far fewer users than telling them they 
can't have KDE3 and KDE4 on the same system.

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Re: FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-07 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Monday 07 July 2008, Brad King wrote:
 David Faure wrote:
  The -L parameters are definitely generated, by cmake.
  The question is how. And the answer is complex AFAIK, and depends on the
  cmake version.

 In CMake 2.4 the set of -L paths come from arguments to the
 link_directories() command and the locations of libraries given to
 target_link_libraries() by full path.  In CMake 2.6 the latter case is
 usually handled just by passing the full path to the library file
 directly to the linker with no searching, but there are still some cases
 where it behaves similarly to 2.4.

 The input to the ordering algorithm is the original list of
 user-specified library search paths (given to link_directories) plus
 some set of library file full paths.  The output is an ordered linker
 search path.  We try to preserve the original order of user-specified
 directories, but the main rule is that the order is such that the
 libraries whose full paths are known will be found first if the linker
 searches for them with a -lfoo option.  This guarantees that when a
 library is specified by full path that the copy of the library is
 favored over any other copy of the library at another place in the
 linker search path.

 CMake actually inspects all the linker search path locations to look for
 possibly conflicting files and builds a constraint graph.  A topological
 sort on the resulting constraint graph produces the order.  The order
 among an unconstrained group of paths is that in the original

Yes.
If you use this:

target_link_libraries(kfind  ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS} )

the kde3support library and all libs it depends on will be linked to kfind.
The kde3support library itself is found using a FIND_LIBRARY() call and so 
will be given to cmake with the full path, 
e.g. /opt/kde4/lib/libkde3support.so.
Additionally all the libs from kde3support_LIB_DEPENDS will also be linked, 
which looks (on my system) like this:
 
SET(kde3support_LIB_DEPENDS 
/opt/qt-copy/lib/libQtCore.so;-lpthread;kdecore;kdeui;kio;kparts;/opt/qt-copy/lib/libQtCore.so;
-lpthread;kdecore;kpty;/opt/qt-copy/lib/libQtXml.so;/opt/qt-copy/lib/libQt3Support.so;/opt/qt-copy/lib/libQtCore.so;-lpthread;kdecore;
kdeui;kio;kfile;)

Here kdecore, kdeui etc. are given without full path. This is because when 
building kdelibs they are only the target names, not file names of the 
not-yet-installed libraries.
So when cmake checks the order of the library dirs, it probably doesn't see a 
problem: libkde3support.so is unique (only in the KDE4 lib dir), kdeui, 
kdecore etc. exist in both dirs, but nobody told cmake that we would like to 
have the one in the KDE4 dir, so it doesn't complain.

Now if you add ${KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS}, kdeui will be added with the full path (as 
above with kde3support), so now cmake will detect the problem (libkdeui.so 
both in the KDE3 and KDE4 lib dirs) and order them so that you get 
libkdeui.so from the KDE4 lib dir.

Short version: this is an ugly situation

I think we can fix this for KDE 4.2 with cmake 2.6.
What do we do in the meantime ?
We could add ${KDE4_KDECORE_LIBRARY} (which comes with the full path and 
features the same name as the one from KDE3) as a direct dependency for all 
libs from kdelibs (in FindKDE4Internal.cmake), so this conflict would be 
always detected.
Does that make sense ?

Alex
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FreeBSD build problem

2008-07-06 Thread David Johnson
I am having some problems building kde 4.0.83. A few executables are linking 
with the KDE3 libraries. So far these are kdialog, kfind and kmenuedit. I 
have only built up to kdebase/kdebase-workspace so far.

Currently in FreeBSD, KDE3 is installed to /usr/local. We have given Qt4 and 
KDE4 their own private directories to live in, but in the meantime *every* 
user has KDE3 in /usr/local. 

The problem occurs because in these three apps, -L/usr/local/lib is being 
listed before -L/usr/local/kde4/lib. That causes the app to link to KDE3 libs 
instead of KDE4. This isn't happening in other apps. Looking closer, the 
CMakeLists.txt for kfind has the line:

target_link_libraries(kfind  ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS} )

This results in the the following library 
locations: -L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/kde4/lib

However, changing that line to add a dependency:

target_link_libraries(kfind ${KDE4_KDEUI_LIBS}  ${KDE4_KDE3SUPPORT_LIBS} )

now results in a better library order:

-L/usr/local/lib/qt4 -L/usr/local/kde4/lib -L/usr/local/lib

Obviously, I shouldn't have to add superflous dependencies. But I can't figure 
out how cmake generates the order of libraries. I have no idea how to fix 
this. I also notice that some dependencies are listed with their full path, 
but others not. If all dependencies could be listed by path it would solve 
this. But I have no idea how to do it.

Any help would be appreciated.

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