Re: Detecting Phonon version

2009-05-06 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:33:19AM -0400, Allen Winter wrote:
 On Saturday 02 May 2009 5:33:29 am Thiago Macieira wrote:
  Hi
  
  I was trying to build kdereview/mplayerthumbs and it requires Phonon 4.4 
  (i.e., the trunk/kdesupport version), which is still unreleased. However, 
  I don't see any checks for the version number anywhere.
  
  FindPhonon.cmake does print the version number, which means the checking 
  is possible. But my question is: should we change this? Or should we 
  simply expect that people use the Phonon version that was (or will be) 
  released alongside that KDE version, or later?
  
 Seems a question for the Release Team and Matthias:
 Do we require Phonon 4.4 for KDE 4.3?

Phonon is a dependency of Qt (for webkit) so it makes no sense to
release it as anything other than part of Qt.  If the version has to
change outwith Qt releases there should be a blessed patch or updated
tar from Qt.

Jonathan
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Re: Detecting Phonon version

2009-05-05 Thread Matthias Kretz
On Sunday 03 May 2009 13:33:19 Allen Winter wrote:
 On Saturday 02 May 2009 5:33:29 am Thiago Macieira wrote:
  Hi
 
  I was trying to build kdereview/mplayerthumbs and it requires Phonon 4.4
  (i.e., the trunk/kdesupport version), which is still unreleased. However,
  I don't see any checks for the version number anywhere.
 
  FindPhonon.cmake does print the version number, which means the checking
  is possible. But my question is: should we change this? Or should we
  simply expect that people use the Phonon version that was (or will be)
  released alongside that KDE version, or later?

 Seems a question for the Release Team and Matthias:
 Do we require Phonon 4.4 for KDE 4.3?

I'm not planning a Phonon release. Probably Qt Software will do the next 
Phonon feature release together with Qt 4.6.

So, KDE 4.3 should require Phonon 4.3. Everything else needs to be optional (I 
already told Marco about this for mplayerthumbs).

Regards,
Matthias

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Re: Detecting Phonon version

2009-05-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Terça-feira 05 Maio 2009, às 14:10:05, Matthias Kretz escreveu:
 On Sunday 03 May 2009 13:33:19 Allen Winter wrote:
  On Saturday 02 May 2009 5:33:29 am Thiago Macieira wrote:
   Hi
  
   I was trying to build kdereview/mplayerthumbs and it requires Phonon
   4.4 (i.e., the trunk/kdesupport version), which is still unreleased.
   However, I don't see any checks for the version number anywhere.
  
   FindPhonon.cmake does print the version number, which means the
   checking is possible. But my question is: should we change this? Or
   should we simply expect that people use the Phonon version that was (or
   will be) released alongside that KDE version, or later?
 
  Seems a question for the Release Team and Matthias:
  Do we require Phonon 4.4 for KDE 4.3?

 I'm not planning a Phonon release. Probably Qt Software will do the next
 Phonon feature release together with Qt 4.6.

 So, KDE 4.3 should require Phonon 4.3. Everything else needs to be optional
 (I already told Marco about this for mplayerthumbs).

Thanks. By the way, videopreview.so crashes on the gstreamer backend: if he 
added a feature to the Xine backend, he should add to the other backends as 
well. Or at least post to kdemultimedia asking for help (which he didn't). I 
only found out about this by accident: I happened to do tail -f ~/.xsession-
errors while using Dolphin in a directory with .avi files.

Anyways, we're still not clear whether we'll need a new minor release of 
Phonon with Qt 4.6. I think so, because of the S60 backend, but we'll see.

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Re: Detecting Phonon version

2009-05-05 Thread Fathi Boudra
 I'm not planning a Phonon release. Probably Qt Software will do the next
 Phonon feature release together with Qt 4.6.

 So, KDE 4.3 should require Phonon 4.3. Everything else needs to be optional
 (I already told Marco about this for mplayerthumbs).

It means for distributors that shipping phonon from Qt 4.5 is fine as it 
contains phonon 4.3.1.

right ?
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Re: Detecting Phonon version

2009-05-05 Thread Thiago Macieira
Fathi Boudra wrote:
 I'm not planning a Phonon release. Probably Qt Software will do the
 next Phonon feature release together with Qt 4.6.

 So, KDE 4.3 should require Phonon 4.3. Everything else needs to be
 optional (I already told Marco about this for mplayerthumbs).

It means for distributors that shipping phonon from Qt 4.5 is fine as it
contains phonon 4.3.1.

right ?

Correct. If you have problems with FindPhonon.cmake not finding the Qt-
installed Phonon, let me know and we'll supply the necessary files.

Note that some KDE apps are using Phonon private API (phononexperimental) 
and will not compile with the Qt version.
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Re: Detecting Phonon version

2009-05-03 Thread Allen Winter
On Saturday 02 May 2009 5:33:29 am Thiago Macieira wrote:
 Hi
 
 I was trying to build kdereview/mplayerthumbs and it requires Phonon 4.4 
 (i.e., the trunk/kdesupport version), which is still unreleased. However, 
 I don't see any checks for the version number anywhere.
 
 FindPhonon.cmake does print the version number, which means the checking 
 is possible. But my question is: should we change this? Or should we 
 simply expect that people use the Phonon version that was (or will be) 
 released alongside that KDE version, or later?
 
Seems a question for the Release Team and Matthias:
Do we require Phonon 4.4 for KDE 4.3?
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