Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

[Lydia Pintscher]

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:
> On zondag 11 juni 2017 18:02:56 CEST Albert Vaca wrote:
>> Thanks for putting this together! Some (late and) minor thoughts on wording:
>>
>> I like that we state we want to "integrate well with other Free products to
>> complete the experience". I would explicitly mention "other Free *software*
>> and products", to make clear that we don't want to be a closed ecosystem
>> where KDE software only integrates with other KDE software.
>>
>> I also think that the statement "maintains a diverse and inclusive
>> community" is fundamental in a truly open online community nowadays. I
>> would go further and say "a diverse, inclusive *and safe* community".
>
> I think those are excellent suggestions. The Free products was I think an
> omission, since without software, this doesn't make sense in our context. The
> "safe" is something I really like in there, because it stresses mutual care
> and kindness that we want to exercise. That is something we always values in
> KDE and supported by our actions (CoC being a cornerstone).

re your edit: When reading the initial wording this includes
integration with other Free "things" for me as well. I am specifically
thinking about Marble integrating Wikipedia articles, Kipi plugins
allowing upload to Wikimedia Commons, Amarok integrating with a number
of free music services and so on. Albert wrote it as "other Free
Software and products". I think that captures it a bit better.

Everyone: Thanks a lot for the valuable and constructive input.


Cheers
Lydia

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Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

[Thomas Pfeiffer]

> On 13 Jun 2017, at 15:29, Sebastian Kügler  wrote:
> 
> On dinsdag 13 juni 2017 14:16:25 CEST Kenny Coyle wrote:
>> Thanks for putting this together, I can only see it being positive going
>> forward.
>> 
>> The text itself is very clear and concise.
>> 
>> On the last section about promoting development, I'm wondering if it's
>> worthwhile having a statement about the infrastructure that KDE maintains
>> and develops? How about the following:
>> 
>> To promote the development of Free and Open-Source Software, KDE
>> …
>> maintains reliable technical infrastructure to support the community,
>> evolving with the community
> 
> I think that fits well into the strategy part. I wonder if we should 
> explicitely mention that we want this infrastructure to be based on Free 
> software and open standards as much as possible, since that's come up over 
> and 
> over again in the past when we discussed important infrastructural changes. 
> (Own git vs. github, phabricator vs. other tools, etc.)
> 
> What do others think about this?

+1
If we have that in our strategy document, it should make such discussions 
easier in the future.

Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

[Sebastian Kügler]

On dinsdag 13 juni 2017 14:16:25 CEST Kenny Coyle wrote:
> Thanks for putting this together, I can only see it being positive going
> forward.
> 
> The text itself is very clear and concise.
> 
> On the last section about promoting development, I'm wondering if it's
> worthwhile having a statement about the infrastructure that KDE maintains
> and develops? How about the following:
> 
> To promote the development of Free and Open-Source Software, KDE
> …
> maintains reliable technical infrastructure to support the community,
> evolving with the community

I think that fits well into the strategy part. I wonder if we should 
explicitely mention that we want this infrastructure to be based on Free 
software and open standards as much as possible, since that's come up over and 
over again in the past when we discussed important infrastructural changes. 
(Own git vs. github, phabricator vs. other tools, etc.)

What do others think about this?
-- 
sebas

http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org

Re: latest draft for mission (and strategy)

[Kenny Coyle]

Hey,

Thanks for putting this together, I can only see it being positive going
forward.

The text itself is very clear and concise.

On the last section about promoting development, I'm wondering if it's
worthwhile having a statement about the infrastructure that KDE maintains
and develops? How about the following:

To promote the development of Free and Open-Source Software, KDE

   - …
   - maintains reliable technical infrastructure to support the community,
   evolving with the community


Thanks,
Kenny.

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:36 AM Sebastian Kügler  wrote:

> On zondag 11 juni 2017 18:02:56 CEST Albert Vaca wrote:
> > Thanks for putting this together! Some (late and) minor thoughts on
> wording:
> >
> > I like that we state we want to "integrate well with other Free products
> to
> > complete the experience". I would explicitly mention "other Free
> *software*
> > and products", to make clear that we don't want to be a closed ecosystem
> > where KDE software only integrates with other KDE software.
> >
> > I also think that the statement "maintains a diverse and inclusive
> > community" is fundamental in a truly open online community nowadays. I
> > would go further and say "a diverse, inclusive *and safe* community".
>
> I think those are excellent suggestions. The Free products was I think an
> omission, since without software, this doesn't make sense in our context.
> The
> "safe" is something I really like in there, because it stresses mutual care
> and kindness that we want to exercise. That is something we always values
> in
> KDE and supported by our actions (CoC being a cornerstone).
>
> > Apart from that, I agree with every point in the strategy and I'm happy
> we
> > have decided to write it down and make it public.
>
> Cool!
> --
> sebas
>
> http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org
>